debeda

He was a "troubled child" and a "troubled teen". I can about guarantee someone was drugging him.

Homestead

What about fertilizer and diesel oil?

Should citizen's have access to them?

Singularity

The NRA strong arms legislation that handicaps pediatricians from even inquiring about guns and gun safety in the homes of their vulnerable patients and you think they will allow the psychiatrist to have authoritative access to the database?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/guns-speech-doctors-patients-560124%3famp=1

Are we beginning to see where the problems lie yet?

Loki Loc: Georgia

Mine life is mostly peaceful also. My life is also still alive because one time when it wasn't I was able to shoot back at the people who shot at me.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Psychiatrists have stepped way out of bounds...

We know that some people are retarded..
an actual mental illness...

We know some people are just rebellious..the prison's have been a carrousel of such...


We as a nation..place our children in school for an education only to have them indoctrinated... into an out of control society....

If these a$$hola psychiatrist's actually cared...they would send unruly kids to their parents...at home or at their workplaces..

The parent is then required to 'get control of their kid'..

If this is beyond the capability of the parent...well then it's certainly obvious to the fact...the parent or parents..waited too late..and now outside control has to intervene..and now days..the law may use lethal force if deemed necessary..there is a proverb about the "rod for the fool's back" but we have rejected age old wisdom..

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And then the criminal record begins on a kid and all he/she needed was forced redirection..A high percentage of time.. institutionalized structure is where we are failing to right a problem..

Do we want to start with our children, when they are young. .or wait until it's far beyond our reach as parents..

If we could learn to 'intimately' engage our children, building a solid foundation of principle's

We need to take our children back from indoctrination of psychologist who are coddling behavioral problems..

As far as the forced structure opinion...if we accept the privilege and duty of parenting...by early established parameters... physical redirect would be virtually non existent

It is almost imaginable that structure built on love and responsibility to society should be the product of our structured homes..


We have been hearing so much on the opioid epidemic... how many kids share their psych pills with other kids?..a person could assume that supervision is in place..but don't ever count on it..

It doesn't take a village to raise children.. parenting is our only option...

We can see what happens when the "village raises the child"... Parkland Florida...


So start early and intimately..

Loki Loc: Georgia

If the NRA had as much influence, and if the purpose of the NRA was as nefarious as Liberal Hobbit Dancers claim, every child in America over the age of five would have their own personal sub-machine gun.
Liberals have one common thread in all their cherished beliefs; that personal responsibility should be surrendered to AUTHORITY. In everything a Liberal says or does there is a common thread of assigning blame and responsibility elsewhere. Parents are absolved of their responsibility for their kids. Criminals are victims and actual victims are asking for it. No wonder Liberals love bureaucracies. They are the ultimate buck passing mechanism where no one takes responsibility for anything. Anyone can shirk their job or their duties or anything else and it's always, ALWAYS someone else's fault and the only way to correct the situation is to throw someone else's money at it.

Singularity

So someone ended up dead.

I understand why you are glad to not be the one who is dead, but a larger view would point out that a dead Loki human being is not that so much different than a dead evil attacker human being as each scenario equals one dead human being. I wonder if real progress wouldnt require a net reduction the number of dead bodies.

Loki Loc: Georgia

My attackers are not dead, at least not because of me. One was seriously perforated. If there is a next time I will endeavor to shoot straighter.
My larger view is different. I am alive. There is a very good chance I would not be had I not been armed. The fact that the attacker survived (albeit in a somewhat sieve-like condition) was an oversight on my part, not an intentional outcome.

debeda

AGREED. Parents must take and be allowed to have responsibility. We are facing a generation of children who have been "institutionally raised" between day care and school. Sad.

moldyoldy

It will be difficult to put the genie back in the bottle. Poorer families need two incomes. Women want careers. Grandma is still actively working. Birth control availability is spotty.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Birth control is a major problem...this goes right along with parenting..

When we were kids... illegitimate birth wasn't at epidemic pace..

Some kids got to be parents their selves..back before the total collapsed of self control..but it wasn't the norm..

This is evident in how society peered at immorality then and the lack of morality now..

There is a proverb:."raise a child up in the way they should be, and they will not depart from it"

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

In some ways I agree with you and yet I recognise the need for some to have medication to help them cope..

Given we know so little about the brain I cant but wonder if all these exceptionally strong meds have to be so strong?? Without close supervision of them they can easily get out of whack quick..

I guess I do not know enough of how the experts issue these meds with what appears little supervision or if the patient truly needs the dose given???

Trial and error is not uncommon for say diabetics meds or blood pressure meds always having to adjust.. Do they do the same with the drugs used that basically render that person totally dependent on it or keeping them in A vegetative state or walking zombies etc.??

Most Drs just prescribe meds pushing for the pharm companies, they are not really interested in healing.. Some are but most you're a group number for payment and thats it..

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

What do the letters NYC stand for. When Alicia posts her address is posted as NYC. I am wondering how many Alicias write here. The one who writes here has told me that she lived in New York City.

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

I'm giving you a high five on this one Larry. Love the way you broke it down.[quote=Larry the Legend]Who ever said the second amendment is about 'hunting'? Does the phrase "necessary to the security of a free State" sound like a hunting term? No, it directly refers to the military role of the people in times of threat or invasion. Now tell me, do people operating in a military capacity have a requirement for military grade weapons? Here, let's fill this out so everybody 'gets it':

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Four simple phrases, each carrying a salient point without wasting or overusing a single one of its 27 words. At the time, it was plain English that any average school child could read and understand. Since it was penned, the meaning of some of those words have been twisted to mean something else entirely. For instance:

"[W]ell regulated" used to mean 'in good working order' or 'properly equipped'. Of course, that has been twisted around to have a different meaning entirely in the intervening 220+ years: 'Control or supervise (something) by means of rules and regulations'. So we go from 'properly equipped' to 'legally controlled and supervised'. Curious, but that's not all:

Now we come to the phrase "being necessary to the security of a free State". Let's define a few words here:
Necessary: Required to be done, achieved, or present; needed; essential.
Security: Free from danger or threat.
Free: Not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes.
State: A nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.

Thus far, we have 'a properly equipped populace, essential to ensure freedom from danger or threat, acting under their own volition in the nation or territory considered as an organized political community'... Wow. That's a lot to pack into just a few words, and we're not even halfway there. Moving on, next, we have:

"[T]he right of the people to keep and bear Arms".

Precisely as written, "the right of the people", not a 'suggestion' or a 'privilege', or a 'license', but a right. So what is a 'right'? Glad you asked, let's peruse a few more definitions:
Right: A moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something, or to act in a certain way.
People: The men, women, and children of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group.
Keep: Have or retain possession of.
Bear: (of a person) Carry.
Arms: Weapons and ammunition; armaments.

Wow, this 'interpreting' stuff is tricky, isn't it? So, let's 'interpret:

'The moral or legal entitlement of the men, women and children of the nation, community or ethnic group, to have or retain possession of, and carry weapons and ammunition or armaments...'

There's another big statement in so few words, isn't it? But we're still not done, now for the 'Pièce De Résistance', the final flourish, the prohibition of government action:

"[S]hall not be infringed."

Just one more definition from this:

Infringed: Acted so as to limit or undermine (something); encroached on.

One last interpretation: 'Shall not be undermined or encroached on'. In other words: Don't even go there!

So now we have the 'common sense' 'interpretation' of the second amendment as not subsequently amended.

In summary, the second amendment is not about 'hunting' or 'sports', it's all about defense. Defense of the person and, by extrapolation, the State. Not only that, but the State itself is prohibited from interfering in the right of the populace to arm and equip itself sufficiently for those purposes. Taking all of this into account, who now thinks that we, any of us, or indeed all of us, could be legally barred from owning and carrying any form of weapon our little hearts should desire? Large or small, concealed or not; at work, at school or in the courtroom, there is no limit to "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" because it "shall not be infringed". And remember:[/quote]

debeda

I 100% agree with the docs and the drig companies being in cahoots Linda!!! My personal opinion is that for teens in particular their brain chemicals and hormone levels are so chaotic in the natural course of things as a result of puberty that adding a psychotropic drug of any strength just bulloxes up a natural progression. Many years ago when I was a teen there were some punks but very few psychopaths. But of course back then there were consequences for your actions without the possibility of a class action suit because you were a protected class. Just sayin...