Nuclearian wrote:
Liberals are going crazy because special counsel Robert Mueller, who has been investigating nonexistent collusion between Donald Trump and the Russians, indicted 13 Russians for meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Well, that’s not exactly true. He got a grand jury to indict these Russian for trying but failing to influence the election. I’m not a fancy attorney or big time prosecutor, but I fail to see how any of this is a crime.
Here’s Fox News with the big nothing story:
A federal grand jury on Friday indicted 13 Russians and three Russian companies for allegedly interfering in the 2016 presidential election, in a case brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller that detailed a sophisticated plot to wage “information warfare” against the U.S.
The Russian nationals are accused of setting a “strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 presidential election.”
It sounds sinister until you get to this:
…the DOJ made clear that the indictment does not allege that any of the interference changed the outcome of the presidential race.
“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election,” said Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
So these Russians did nothing? If you are going to charge people with meddling with an election, don’t they have to kind of meddle with the election?
Now here’s what Mueller claims these Russians did, which makes this even more ridiculous:
The defendants are accused of spreading derogatory information about Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, denigrating Republican candidates Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio — and ultimately supporting Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders and then-Republican candidate Donald Trump.
It says the defendants spread derogatory information about various candidates throughout the 2016 campaign and by “early to mid-2016” were supporting Trump’s presidential campaign.
In the lead up to the 2016 election, me and every other writer at Downtrend did nothing but write pro-Trump/anti-Hillary articles. Are we also guilty of meddling in the election? What about Breitbart or Fox News?
It actually manages to get sillier:
Rosenstein, though, said that after the election, the group worked both to stage rallies in favor of President-elect Trump and in opposition to his election.
Earlier I asked if it was necessary to actually meddle with an election to be charged with election meddling, but I know for a fact that if you are meddling after an election, you definitely didn’t meddle in the election. Wow, just wow.
Like I said, I fail to even see a crime here, mostly because a crime wasn’t committed. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton rigged the democratic primaries to ensure she’d get the nomination and then colluded with a foreign government to deceive the FBI into spying on Donald Trump’s campaign. If they are going to hand out indictment for meddling in the election, it seems like Hillary would be a good place to start.
The actual biggest news about these indictments however is that you may have noticed none of it involves Trump or any of his associates colluding with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton, which is the stated purpose of Robert Mueller’s investigation. Even the rabid Trump-hating media has to realize there is nothing to the Trump/Russia story at this point.
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This makes no sense. If these Russian defendants have nothing to disclose about the Trump/Russia collusion, why is Mueller wasting so much time? These defendants seem to appear to have aided Clinton, Hillary, with the money that Clinton had paid to Russian agent. And the favor of Clinton selling the 20% of US Uranium One to Russia for a package of $145 million, in addition to Bill's speaking fee of $500,000 for 15 minutes.
From these alone, it is clear evidence that Clinton and Russia are in collusion.
In addition, what is really the bottom line of Mueller's prolonging so much this Russia/Collusion investigation?
Mueller is an experienced prosecutor. He knows how to save his client by illegal manuver of his processes.
I think his delaying tactic is for buying time so that the Statute of Limitations of Hillary Clinton felonies along with her syndicate expire. Therefore they could escape from prosecution. I think Mueller and Team must be investigated ASAP!
What are you doing DOJ Session? Assign another Special Prosecutor because the crimes of Clinton and Team are so massive Are you competent to handling these Clinton, et all massive crimes?
Radiance3 wrote:
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I think his delaying tactic is for buying time so that the Statute of Limitations of Hillary Clinton felonies expire, and therefore she is saved from prosecution.
It makes sense if you can indict those who were complicit n' further down the food chain...they're the ones who
were afraid of the witch and enabled her, wanting to keep their jobs.
Ya have to remember it's bad for U.S. business if a former first lady and ex president are indicted and prosecuted...remember what trump said? hmm?
edit/update ...came back to say Larry Klayman is vying for Jeff Sessions job and he wants to prosecute from top down.
He Wants go after the Klintoons n' Blamo's... and well...if he can do it, without a bunch of flack...
Loki wrote:
....and you are ingesting too much peyote.
O O O H, p-e-y-o-t-y will result in interesting effects in the brain if you ingest a few buds.... Years ago I had about 8 of them planted in flower post at home. My mother thought the pink flowers they produced.... I was drafted, but two teas later , when I came home, they were gone dog ate them she told me....but no. Investigation showed my sister are them once she found out what they were....... and we are not even Indians....
Nuclearian wrote:
Liberals are going crazy because special counsel Robert Mueller, who has been investigating nonexistent collusion between Donald Trump and the Russians, indicted 13 Russians for meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Well, that’s not exactly true. He got a grand jury to indict these Russian for trying but failing to influence the election. I’m not a fancy attorney or big time prosecutor, but I fail to see how any of this is a crime.
Here’s Fox News with the big nothing story:
A federal grand jury on Friday indicted 13 Russians and three Russian companies for allegedly interfering in the 2016 presidential election, in a case brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller that detailed a sophisticated plot to wage “information warfare” against the U.S.
The Russian nationals are accused of setting a “strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 presidential election.”
It sounds sinister until you get to this:
…the DOJ made clear that the indictment does not allege that any of the interference changed the outcome of the presidential race.
“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election,” said Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
So these Russians did nothing? If you are going to charge people with meddling with an election, don’t they have to kind of meddle with the election?
Now here’s what Mueller claims these Russians did, which makes this even more ridiculous:
The defendants are accused of spreading derogatory information about Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, denigrating Republican candidates Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio — and ultimately supporting Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders and then-Republican candidate Donald Trump.
It says the defendants spread derogatory information about various candidates throughout the 2016 campaign and by “early to mid-2016” were supporting Trump’s presidential campaign.
In the lead up to the 2016 election, me and every other writer at Downtrend did nothing but write pro-Trump/anti-Hillary articles. Are we also guilty of meddling in the election? What about Breitbart or Fox News?
It actually manages to get sillier:
Rosenstein, though, said that after the election, the group worked both to stage rallies in favor of President-elect Trump and in opposition to his election.
Earlier I asked if it was necessary to actually meddle with an election to be charged with election meddling, but I know for a fact that if you are meddling after an election, you definitely didn’t meddle in the election. Wow, just wow.
Like I said, I fail to even see a crime here, mostly because a crime wasn’t committed. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton rigged the democratic primaries to ensure she’d get the nomination and then colluded with a foreign government to deceive the FBI into spying on Donald Trump’s campaign. If they are going to hand out indictment for meddling in the election, it seems like Hillary would be a good place to start.
The actual biggest news about these indictments however is that you may have noticed none of it involves Trump or any of his associates colluding with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton, which is the stated purpose of Robert Mueller’s investigation. Even the rabid Trump-hating media has to realize there is nothing to the Trump/Russia story at this point.
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It's a comin'.
The "meanwhile" part is key.
What has been found and who has Mueller already talked to that may be used as evidence or called on to testify in a separate, and completely
unrelated (
) case?
BigMike wrote:
It's a comin'.
The "meanwhile" part is key.
What has been found and who has Mueller already talked to that may be used as evidence or called on to testify in a separate, and completely
unrelated (
) case?
Mueller had to find something he could use to start shutting down this mess they created..They Have sufficiently screwed themselves over big time.. mueller went in to protect people and keep them up on whats going down..The knight in black armor comes to save the dems and the DNC from BO down!!!
What an appauling realization of the depths they will go to achieve their objectives..Cheat, lie, kill and commit treason against President Trump not to mention what they had been doing to him before even the election, debates, .. or rallies..They should all hang!! In a public square!! Examples every one of them!!
lindajoy wrote:
Mueller had to find something he could use to start shutting down this mess they created..They Have sufficiently screwed themselves over big time.. mueller went in to protect people and keep them up on whats going down..The knight in black armor comes to save the dems and the DNC from BO down!!!
What an appauling realization of the depths they will go to achieve their objectives..Cheat, lie, kill and commit treason against President Trump not to mention what they had been doing to him before even the election, debates, .. or rallies..They should all hang!! In a public square!! Examples every one of them!!
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Yep. Exactly right...I posted months ago Mueller had better hurry if he was going to do something but he may be too late.
Perfect storm of circumstance overtaking Dem plans...still.
PLT Sarge wrote:
Agree LJ. This has hurt the Left far more than the right. President Trump has played Snooker with the Left again. He's got them behind the cue ball, it's their shot. They fell into the trap. Never play for money on another persons own pool table, you will lose.
I like your realism of pool tables and losing your money on their table!!!
Trump does have a nice way of keeping them guessing and chasing ther own tail!!
Karma is saweeeett or a bitch.. With these underhanded criminals karma is a bitch!! Lolol
BigMike wrote:
Yep. Exactly right...I posted months ago Mueller had better hurry if he was going to do something but he may be too late.
Perfect storm of circumstance overtaking Dem plans...still.
I remember you posting of Mueller and saying he better get in and get out quick or he was going to be treading very close to charges too..
I Have always felt he was the yes man to keep the real issues kept a secret!!! Covering up-in others words..
Yes sweets that perfect storm is brewing again!!!!
https://youtu.be/t1kHdIU8Uek
lindajoy wrote:
I like your realism of pool tables and losing your money on their table!!!
Trump does have a nice way of keeping them guessing and chasing ther own tail!!
Karma is saweeeett or a bitch.. With these underhanded criminals karma is a bitch!! Lolol
So who's chasing their tail?
lindajoy wrote:
I remember you posting of Mueller and saying he better get in and get out quick or he was going to be treading very close to charges too..
I Have always felt he was the yes man to keep the real issues kept a secret!!! Covering up-in others words..
Yes sweets that perfect storm is brewing again!!!!
https://youtu.be/t1kHdIU8UekI think God is doing the ol' Razzle Dazzle on these guys...using whacked out circumstances to lift their skirts...quicker than they can cover their butts.
Think how
HORRIFIED they must have been when the hag lost! HAHAHAHA!
Cat got your tongue Nikki?
lindajoy wrote:
BS..... Then why are the Russisn charged??
Ill tell you why🤐~~ cost justification and needing someone to charge so he can hopefully start shutting this down before the entire Democratic Party is gone. .. This investigation of Trump has done nothing but prove up many many, many, illegal actions by the dem party which is slowly being shown just how under handed they are at all cost..
As I said in another post, he was put in place for damage control.. Now charges of all those involved dems Or Republicans need to come out as well!!
What a pathetic travesty this is to our country before all other world leaders!! And what a hell of an education we gave them on how we spy on others or hack computers and the damn misfit criminal leaders of the FBI !!!They should go down hard !!
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The travesty is that Russian bots spent millions every month demonizing Hillary Clinton and Boosting Bernie Sanders in the primary and Jill Stein in the General in order to affect public opinion in favor of Schtrumpinski. The June 2016 mtg in Trump Tower by Jr. Kushner and Manafort to discuss dirt on Hillarry and sanctions on Russia constitutes conspiracy. Trump had attended a fund raiser that day and had returned to Trump Tower. What are the odds that bunch did not take the elevator up one floor to Trumps Apt. Haven't you seen the pic of Sergy Lavrov Russian foreign minister and Ambasabot Kyslyac in the oval office after Trumps inauguration with the gleeful looks on their faces like "WE DID IT " The US media were not sllowed to see that Mtg. we only saw the picture because it was released by Russian News service. Trump has refused to enforce the sanctions has extolled the virtues of the murderer and thief Putin. How can you folks be so ignorant. 71,000 votes spresd over four rust belt states made the differance and the Russian Bots concentrated on social media in thos states knowing that in order to win they had to gturn the rust belt red. Efvey thing Schtrumpinski has done to date is to make it easier for business to exploit labor his budget has cuts to Social Security Medicare and Medicaid t ohelp cover the huge decicits his tax cuts to corporations and the wealthy. Does he put a union leader in charge of dept of labor no he puts an abti labor billionaire in charge
Nickolai wrote:
The travesty is that Russian bots spent millions every month demonizing Hillary Clinton and Boosting Bernie Sanders in the primary and Jill Stein in the General in order to affect public opinion in favor of Schtrumpinski. The June 2016 mtg in Trump Tower by Jr. Kushner and Manafort to discuss dirt on Hillarry and sanctions on Russia constitutes conspiracy. Trump had attended a fund raiser that day and had returned to Trump Tower. What are the odds that bunch did not take the elevator up one floor to Trumps Apt. Haven't you seen the pic of Sergy Lavrov Russian foreign minister and Ambasabot Kyslyac in the oval office after Trumps inauguration with the gleeful looks on their faces like "WE DID IT " The US media were not sllowed to see that Mtg. we only saw the picture because it was released by Russian News service. Trump has refused to enforce the sanctions has extolled the virtues of the murderer and thief Putin. How can you folks be so ignorant. 71,000 votes spresd over four rust belt states made the differance and the Russian Bots concentrated on social media in thos states knowing that in order to win they had to gturn the rust belt red. Efvey thing Schtrumpinski has done to date is to make it easier for business to exploit labor his budget has cuts to Social Security Medicare and Medicaid t ohelp cover the huge decicits his tax cuts to corporations and the wealthy. Does he put a union leader in charge of dept of labor no he puts an abti labor billionaire in charge
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Give it up Nikki...aren't you tired of parroting drivel?
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