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Feb 15, 2018 13:21:25   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
This is what i dont get about you lefties, do you really think that if you take all the guns away from law abiding citizen you dont think people like this murderer wouldnt find another way to kill these innocent people??? How about bombs,or cars??Are you gonna band all cars too, and BTW you can go online and there you can find how to make home made bomb...Should we have to band these online instructions?? I think it belongs to 1st Amendment I honestly dont know what we could do to prevent this tragedy from happening again,but banding all the guns from law abiding citizens is not an answer!!!......If somebody hell-bend on killing people ,he will find the way gun or no gun!!!
This is what i dont get about you lefties, do you ... (show quote)


All you have to do is ask the law abiding citizens in the U.K. and in Australia and you will get your answer.

It didn't work to well in those countries did it?

Now that can't defend themselves and protect their wives and women.

But it sure sounded good at the time I'm sure.

Remember every dictator disarmed the populace before they took over as dictator.

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Feb 15, 2018 13:31:56   #
S. Maturin
 
proud republican wrote:
What the hell Kevyn,are you seriously blaming this on President Trump???...You lefties are nuts!!!!


Well, of course they are all crazy as bat shite. Remember who their choice for president was last election.. no person in his/her right mind would have backed such an obvious loser. A loser who is about to become a convicted felon and quite possibly a convicted traitor.

So, if you are one who is so bat-shite nuts, you will see everything bad happening as the fault of Donald J. Trump. That makes their little lives so uncomplicated.

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Feb 15, 2018 13:40:58   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
bahmer wrote:
But we are missing what I and a lot of other Older individuals on here had growing up.

Some are going to object but we had God in school.

We had a morning prayer over the loud speaker.

We were more patriotic.

We said the pledge of allegiance and we sung the national anthem every day.

We respected our teachers and parents.

We went to boy scouts and girl scouts while they were still great youth movements unlike now where they are homosexual hangouts.

We went to church as a family and we were in Christmas Pageants and Easter Pageants.

We celebrated Thanksgiving and learned the real history of our great country.

I could go on but I think that you catch my drift.
But we are missing what I and a lot of other Older... (show quote)




And...... When we threw a rock and hit some kid our parents padded our ass our parents set boundaries, taught us their is strick penalties for stepping out of bounds.
But liberals could not, would not accept the Biblical guidelines of disciplining children and instead coddled children arresting parents, jailing parents for properly raising their children.

During my youth I received a few belts on the butt, I'm not damaged, I don't have ptst or complain I was abused. Later in my youth when faced with choices, the harsh penalty of choosing wrongly keep me on the right path to avoid punishment.
I was taught respect, yes Sir and no Sir, open doors for women and elderly, plus hard work ethic, respect for the guy signing my pay check and hard work going above and beyond to move up the ladder, morals.

Liberals have at every turn by policies and agenda destroyed the family unit, the role of a man, and the role of a woman.

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Feb 15, 2018 13:43:57   #
Kevyn
 
proud republican wrote:
This is what i dont get about you lefties, do you really think that if you take all the guns away from law abiding citizen you dont think people like this murderer wouldnt find another way to kill these innocent people??? How about bombs,or cars??Are you gonna band all cars too, and BTW you can go online and there you can find how to make home made bomb...Should we have to band these online instructions?? I think it belongs to 1st Amendment I honestly dont know what we could do to prevent this tragedy from happening again,but banding all the guns from law abiding citizens is not an answer!!!......If somebody hell-bend on killing people ,he will find the way gun or no gun!!!
This is what i dont get about you lefties, do you ... (show quote)
When I was a kid my grandfather used dynamite to remove stumps on his farm. You could buy blasting supplies at the hardware store. In the early 70s dynamite attacks in the US were in the thousands and the use of the stuff was highly regulated as a result. Mining and construction people can still use dynamite but it is carefully licensed regulated, and tracked. Guess what happened to the number of dynamite attacks after the ban? They all but disappeared.

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Feb 15, 2018 13:49:38   #
Kevyn
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
And...... When we threw a rock and hit some kid our parents padded our ass our parents set boundaries, taught us their is strick penalties for stepping out of bounds.
But liberals could not, would not accept the Biblical guidelines of disciplining children and instead coddled children arresting parents, jailing parents for properly raising their children.

During my youth I received a few belts on the butt, I'm not damaged, I don't have ptst or complain I was abused. Later in my youth when faced with choices, the harsh penalty of choosing wrongly keep me on the right path to avoid punishment.
I was taught respect, yes Sir and no Sir, open doors for women and elderly, plus hard work ethic, respect for the guy signing my pay check and hard work going above and beyond to move up the ladder, morals.

Liberals have at every turn by policies and agenda destroyed the family unit, the role of a man, and the role of a woman.
And...... When we threw a rock and hit some kid ou... (show quote)

Do you really think we should accept biblical guidelines for disciplining children? If so let me refere you to Leviticus 20:9

For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.

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Feb 15, 2018 13:52:24   #
S. Maturin
 
Kevyn wrote:
When I was a kid my grandfather used dynamite to remove stumps on his farm. You could buy blasting supplies at the hardware store. In the early 70s dynamite attacks in the US were in the thousands and the use of the stuff was highly regulated as a result. Mining and construction people can still use dynamite but it is carefully licensed regulated, and tracked. Guess what happened to the number of dynamite attacks after the ban? They all but disappeared.


"My daddy did this", "I knew a guy who did that..", "Anybody coulda done.."... what's missing is the obvious point that Kevyn did NOTHING.. nothing. Ever.

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Feb 15, 2018 13:53:19   #
moldyoldy
 
The FBI Was Warned About A School Shooting Threat From A YouTube User Named Nikolas Cruz In September

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/the-fbi-was-warned-about-a-school-shooting-threat-from?utm_term=.ibM8xXjjmG#.clXG90LLQ6

Trump signs bill reversing Obama rule to ban gun purchases by mentally ill

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/28/trump-sign-bill-blocking-obama-gun-rule/98484106/

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Feb 15, 2018 14:02:17   #
Molly2399 Loc: Ohio
 
bahmer wrote:
But we are missing what I and a lot of other Older individuals on here had growing up.

Some are going to object but we had God in school.

We had a morning prayer over the loud speaker.

We were more patriotic.

We said the pledge of allegiance and we sung the national anthem every day.

We respected our teachers and parents.

We went to boy scouts and girl scouts while they were still great youth movements unlike now where they are homosexual hangouts.

We went to church as a family and we were in Christmas Pageants and Easter Pageants.

We celebrated Thanksgiving and learned the real history of our great country.

I could go on but I think that you catch my drift.
But we are missing what I and a lot of other Older... (show quote)


I have seen lack of faith in my own family. I pray everyday for a return to God. Without faith there will be more unfaithful forcing their opinions on our loved ones.

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Feb 15, 2018 14:07:52   #
S. Maturin
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The FBI Was Warned About A School Shooting Threat From A YouTube User Named Nikolas Cruz In September

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/the-fbi-was-warned-about-a-school-shooting-threat-from?utm_term=.ibM8xXjjmG#.clXG90LLQ6

Trump signs bill reversing Obama rule to ban gun purchases by mentally ill

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/28/trump-sign-bill-blocking-obama-gun-rule/98484106/


Moldy, your second link was a gold mine of propaganda and can be summed up easily: Obama, GOOD, Trump BAD!.

Now, if ever you do get a cerebral implant, I should like you with your new brain to consider the pitfalls of having governments declaring their citizens "MENTALLY ILL'.

History showed us what that dictator's dream would look like. If the power in control says wanting red socks for casual wear means you are mentally ill.. then all folks with the color red in their socks are NUTS and need to be imprisoned in some institution-- forever. That has happened in one form or another several times in human history.

So, democrat president 'X' may simply decree that just desiring the means to defend yourself from violent felons means you are INSANE, then you ARE indeed insane and need to be placed into one of those mental institutions forever.

Do you think the same bureaucrats who administer to the VA qualified to keep track of your mental condition, your mental treatment, the welfare of your family while you rot away in one of those vermin-laced institutions?

Actually, moldy, any of those few who know you probably think you insane right now... get it?

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Feb 15, 2018 14:14:15   #
maureenthannon
 
Another thing, I don't know about this one, but most of the mass shootings in recent years were done by some one on prescription drugs for mental health issues. Could it be that drugs may not be the best answer for all people with mental health disorders.

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Feb 15, 2018 14:14:36   #
moldyoldy
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Moldy, your second link was a gold mine of propaganda and can be summed up easily: Obama, GOOD, Trump BAD!.

Now, if ever you do get a cerebral implant, I should like you with your new brain to consider the pitfalls of having governments declaring their citizens "MENTALLY ILL'.

History showed us what that dictator's dream would look like. If the power in control says wanting red socks for casual wear means you are mentally ill.. then all folks with the color red in their socks are NUTS and need to be imprisoned in some institution-- forever. That has happened in one form or another several times in human history.

So, democrat president 'X' may simply decree that just desiring the means to defend yourself from violent felons means you are INSANE, then you ARE indeed insane and need to be placed into one of those mental institutions forever.

Do you think the same bureaucrats who administer to the VA qualified to keep track of your mental condition, your mental treatment, the welfare of your family while you rot away in one of those vermin-laced institutions?

Actually, moldy, any of those few who know you probably think you insane right now... get it?
Moldy, your second link was a gold mine of propaga... (show quote)


Your personal idiot, does any stupid thing as long as it reverses something Obama did. He is a mental midget.

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Feb 15, 2018 14:22:00   #
S. Maturin
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Your personal idiot, does any stupid thing as long as it reverses something Obama did. He is a mental midget.


It seems you think I *own* someone... well, for your information, I own no one.

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Feb 15, 2018 14:25:39   #
moldyoldy
 
S. Maturin wrote:
It seems you think I *own* someone... well, for your information, I own no one.


You own that idiot that you voted for.

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Feb 15, 2018 14:30:29   #
S. Maturin
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Another thing, I don't know about this one, but most of the mass shootings in recent years were done by some one on prescription drugs for mental health issues. Could it be that drugs may not be the best answer for all people with mental health disorders.


Good question/point. It seems obvious that what is being done is insufficient.

It's does seem obvious that anyone being treated for serious mental disorder via medications- which might be "mood changers" - should not have access to firearms and probably should not be free into the general population.

As I mentioned to crazy oldy-moldy, the diagnosis of that 'insanity' needs to be done and all treatments overseen by dedicated, qualified, responsible, reviewed, professionals. Not just any political hack or P-Oed relative should not be capable of getting anyone committed to a mental institution.

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Feb 15, 2018 14:50:17   #
maureenthannon
 
moldy, I suppose you were in favor of it when His Majesty Obama ave guns to terrorists, or when he gave food stamps to millionaires, or invited terrorists to come to America.Anything Obama did was good?

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