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Armed In America: New book shows Americans do not have the individual right to bear arms
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Jan 27, 2018 21:26:50   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The United States isn't even in the top 50 most dangerous nations on earth. The nations with the highest rates of violence are those in which private firearm ownership is severely restricted or prohibited altogether.

The 2nd amendment is, in fact, sacrosanct, our right to defend ourselves is God given, it is inalienable. And FYI, our founders' original intent was to limit the power of the federal government to its primary purpose.

If it weren't for liberal godless, humanistic, multicultural, multilingual, divisive, racist, politically correct, Kumbayah, Utopian bullshit, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Now, what f*cking book has driven you to orgasms?
The United States isn't even in the top 50 most da... (show quote)


I named it.

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Jan 27, 2018 21:27:40   #
rumitoid
 
Gatsby wrote:
Do you mean like Roe v. Wade?


That has to do with gun violence?

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Jan 27, 2018 21:28:53   #
rumitoid
 
Loki wrote:
I am positive he is right about Mexico. With one third of our population, last year they had twice as many murders. Their per capita murder rate is almost five times as high as ours, and it's nearly impossible for a civilian to legally own a gun in Mexico.
People like you will not admit the real problem, which is born out by the FBI's uniform crime report, and by UN statistics. Most of the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30, and by illegal Hispanics. The murder rate for whites of European ancestry is about the same whether it is the US, the UK, Canada, Germany, or the Scandinavian countries; around 1:100,000.
Violence in America is largely perpetrated by your precious minorities; and the victims are usually other minorities. Nearly half the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30. More than half the murder victims in this country are blacks, and about 94% of their murderers are other blacks, usually in the demographic I mentioned.
Oh yes, the book you mentioned? Is it as imaginary as it's incorrect conclusion? You don't agree with the SCOTUS decision? Too bad. You are perfectly free to not own a gun. You are free to believe that a gun ban would keep you safe. Move to Mexico. They have gun control.
I am positive he is right about Mexico. With one t... (show quote)

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Jan 27, 2018 21:55:18   #
rumitoid
 
Loki: "Most of the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30, and by illegal Hispanics. The murder rate for whites of European ancestry is about the same whether it is the US, the UK, Canada, Germany, or the Scandinavian countries; around 1:100,000.
Violence in America is largely perpetrated by your precious minorities; and the victims are usually other minorities. Nearly half the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30. More than half the murder victims in this country are blacks, and about 94% of their murderers are other blacks, usually in the demographic I mentioned.
Oh yes, the book you mentioned? Is it as imaginary as it's incorrect conclusion? You don't agree with the SCOTUS decision? Too bad."

Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to-the-united-states-demographics-vs-guns/#ixzz55RWLnjdH
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“In 2010, the homicide rate for black male teens was 51.7 per 100,000, more than 22 times higher than the rate for white male teens (2.4 per 100,000). Rates for other groups were 17.9 per 100,000 for Hispanic males, 11.9 per 100,000 for American Indian males, and 3.2* per 100,000 for Asian and Pacific Islander males."

What do we do with your and my stats? (And I have more in your favor.) A darker shade of white is suspect? Brown to black is inferior, or suspect? Forget the protections of the Constitution, we know where our safety is and it is just common sense to protect it? Profile! It really comes down to this hard and unfortunate choice: liberty or safety. Too many, in my eyes, are choosing the latter. Under trump and this new world direction to autocracy, that choice is the basis for how we want to live. With the messiness and complexities of democracy or the simplicity and safe rule of autocracy?

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Jan 27, 2018 22:03:48   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

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Jan 27, 2018 22:07:40   #
rumitoid
 
Weaver wrote:
Australia took the guns away from it’t people and look at how it’s effecting the Australian.
Then come up with another plan. Because the problem remains that they didn’t get all of the guns. The lawless seems to come up with a way to inflect their lawless ways.


How IS it affecting the Australians?

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Jan 27, 2018 22:08:54   #
rumitoid
 
11r20 wrote:
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety


Yes--that is an absolute!

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Jan 27, 2018 22:17:57   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
than you should be able to understand this

"Extremism in the Defense of Liberty Is No Vice"

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Jan 27, 2018 22:41:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Loki wrote:
I was referring to murders. Somebody wants to kill themselves, they will find a way.
Quite right, Loki, I was just lending some balance to rummy's fallacious allegations about how our right to bear arms has spawned a blizzard of murder and mayhem in America. One thing that truly puzzles me is how liberals can ignore the fact that those cities, counties and countries with prohibitive firearm laws are the most violent. I live in a town where gun ownership is very high, where open carry is legal, we have not seen a gun related crime in over 25 years. The last firearm related death was 10 years ago and that was a suicide. I reckon that the reason liberal gun haters ignore the facts is because their ideology trumps facts. A fact to a liberal is like sunlight to a vampire. Libs suffer a mental pathology that is nearly impossible to define.

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Jan 27, 2018 22:54:03   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
11r20 wrote:
than you should be able to understand this

"Extremism in the Defense of Liberty Is No Vice"
Ah yes, Barry Goldwater. "and let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

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Jan 27, 2018 23:04:50   #
rumitoid
 
11r20 wrote:
than you should be able to understand this

"Extremism in the Defense of Liberty Is No Vice"


Wow, seriously? That is so sick and so wrong! The exact opposite is true.

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Jan 27, 2018 23:40:10   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
rumitoid wrote:
Wow, seriously? That is so sick and so wrong! The exact opposite is true.


No, you little flakelet, you are the sick one that is always wrong.

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Jan 28, 2018 00:06:29   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Quite right, Loki, I was just lending some balance to rummy's fallacious allegations about how our right to bear arms has spawned a blizzard of murder and mayhem in America. One thing that truly puzzles me is how liberals can ignore the fact that those cities, counties and countries with prohibitive firearm laws are the most violent. I live in a town where gun ownership is very high, where open carry is legal, we have not seen a gun related crime in over 25 years. The last firearm related death was 10 years ago and that was a suicide. I reckon that the reason liberal gun haters ignore the facts is because their ideology trumps facts. A fact to a liberal is like sunlight to a vampire. Libs suffer a mental pathology that is nearly impossible to define.
Quite right, Loki, I was just lending some balance... (show quote)


Well, that is a lie what you claimed. However, even if true, the lack of a universal federal law backing gun-control nationwide, any attempt at controlling guns by states is an ugly and ultimately sick joke.

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Jan 28, 2018 00:11:25   #
rumitoid
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
No, you little flakelet, you are the sick one that is always wrong.


What the Right does: no support for your pov, and always the insult. Aggravating! Let's fight. Your flaky left hook calling me a name misses the truth of my jaw.

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Jan 28, 2018 00:48:16   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
rumitoid wrote:
What the Right does: no support for your pov, and always the insult. Aggravating! Let's fight. Your flaky left hook calling me a name misses the truth of my jaw.


You are insanely flakey.

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