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Armed In America: New book shows Americans do not have the individual right to bear arms
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Jan 27, 2018 19:02:43   #
rumitoid
 
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly screened, all reviewers say the author is correct.

And even if he is wrong, 11 school shootings in the first year of 2018: that's an acceptable cost of freedom? Do nothing?

We are by a wide margin the most violent nation of the so-called Free and Democratic World. It will take the combined deaths or injuries from guns of the five nearest countries to us to equal our stats. You don't have a problem with that fact? Again, the price of freedom?

What is the real threat? Right wing conspiracy! "The Left wants our guns so they can swoop down in Black helicopters in the middle of the night, with Left-wing's elite Russian force, to confiscate all weapons for their coup." This is the only reason we do not have sane gun control measures. NRA propaganda.

The Second Amendment is not sacrosanct, and even if misinterpreted to mean all citizens have the right to bear arms, we have a clear mandate to make such possession "regulated." Controlled. The State is not enough. It needs to be federal, as originally intended. Universal!

A failure to do is playing the role of the "permissive parent": "Go and kill, my son and daughter, but be home for late night snacks. Our Constitution loves you no matter what. It is your freedom."

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Jan 27, 2018 19:26:10   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
rumitoid wrote:
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly screened, all reviewers say the author is correct.

And even if he is wrong, 11 school shootings in the first year of 2018: that's an acceptable cost of freedom? Do nothing?

We are by a wide margin the most violent nation of the so-called Free and Democratic World. It will take the combined deaths or injuries from guns of the five nearest countries to us to equal our stats. You don't have a problem with that fact? Again, the price of freedom?

What is the real threat? Right wing conspiracy! "The Left wants our guns so they can swoop down in Black helicopters in the middle of the night, with Left-wing's elite Russian force, to confiscate all weapons for their coup." This is the only reason we do not have sane gun control measures. NRA propaganda.

The Second Amendment is not sacrosanct, and even if misinterpreted to mean all citizens have the right to bear arms, we have a clear mandate to make such possession "regulated." Controlled. The State is not enough. It needs to be federal, as originally intended. Universal!

A failure to do is playing the role of the "permissive parent": "Go and kill, my son and daughter, but be home for late night snacks. Our Constitution loves you no matter what. It is your freedom."
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly... (show quote)
........and people like you



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Jan 27, 2018 19:30:57   #
rumitoid
 
2wheeljunkie wrote:
........and people like you


I like the poster, and it does address some issues.

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Jan 27, 2018 19:34:17   #
Gatsby
 
In District of Columbia v. Heller: The SCOTUS settled this issue. I sugest that you read the majority opinion.

rumitoid wrote:
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly screened, all reviewers say the author is correct.

And even if he is wrong, 11 school shootings in the first year of 2018: that's an acceptable cost of freedom? Do nothing?

We are by a wide margin the most violent nation of the so-called Free and Democratic World. It will take the combined deaths or injuries from guns of the five nearest countries to us to equal our stats. You don't have a problem with that fact? Again, the price of freedom?

What is the real threat? Right wing conspiracy! "The Left wants our guns so they can swoop down in Black helicopters in the middle of the night, with Left-wing's elite Russian force, to confiscate all weapons for their coup." This is the only reason we do not have sane gun control measures. NRA propaganda.

The Second Amendment is not sacrosanct, and even if misinterpreted to mean all citizens have the right to bear arms, we have a clear mandate to make such possession "regulated." Controlled. The State is not enough. It needs to be federal, as originally intended. Universal!

A failure to do is playing the role of the "permissive parent": "Go and kill, my son and daughter, but be home for late night snacks. Our Constitution loves you no matter what. It is your freedom."
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly... (show quote)

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Jan 27, 2018 19:46:19   #
rumitoid
 
Gatsby wrote:
In District of Columbia v. Heller: The SCOTUS settled this issue. I sugest that you read the majority opinion.


I suggest that you read the many regrettable and wrong decisions of SCOTUS, such as Dred Scott.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:00:59   #
vernon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly screened, all reviewers say the author is correct.

And even if he is wrong, 11 school shootings in the first year of 2018: that's an acceptable cost of freedom? Do nothing?

We are by a wide margin the most violent nation of the so-called Free and Democratic World. It will take the combined deaths or injuries from guns of the five nearest countries to us to equal our stats. You don't have a problem with that fact? Again, the price of freedom?

What is the real threat? Right wing conspiracy! "The Left wants our guns so they can swoop down in Black helicopters in the middle of the night, with Left-wing's elite Russian force, to confiscate all weapons for their coup." This is the only reason we do not have sane gun control measures. NRA propaganda.

The Second Amendment is not sacrosanct, and even if misinterpreted to mean all citizens have the right to bear arms, we have a clear mandate to make such possession "regulated." Controlled. The State is not enough. It needs to be federal, as originally intended. Universal!

A failure to do is playing the role of the "permissive parent": "Go and kill, my son and daughter, but be home for late night snacks. Our Constitution loves you no matter what. It is your freedom."
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly... (show quote)


we arn't even in the top 50 in violence.WE DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO MEXICO.And don't come up here saying its misinterperted 200 years later.This is just a bunch of communist trying to remove more of our rights.And its obvious you just love The fed govt. that doesn't do anything but steal our money and screw up everything they touch.You are truly the
Permissive parent.Now instead of committing this evil why don't just stfu.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:07:01   #
Gatsby
 
Do you mean like Roe v. Wade?

rumitoid wrote:
I suggest that you read the many regrettable and wrong decisions of SCOTUS, such as Dred Scott.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:08:55   #
vernon
 
And you talk about meticulous and and factual in the first sentence then the second sentence you say but even if he is wrong.

I don't think you could recognize a true fact if it slapped you up side the wall.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:10:41   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
we arn't even in the top 50 in violence.WE DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO MEXICO.And don't come up here saying its misinterperted 200 years later.This is just a bunch of communist trying to remove more of our rights.And its obvious you just love The fed govt. that doesn't do anything but steal our money and screw up everything they touch.You are truly the
Permissive parent.Now instead of committing this evil why don't just stfu.


Vernon, take a breath. Did you read what I said about violence in America? Do not do the alt-right blindness. I made a specific category of violence. (And I am not sure you are right about Mexico.) Your post is meaningless.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:27:06   #
Weaver
 
rumitoid wrote:
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly screened, all reviewers say the author is correct.

And even if he is wrong, 11 school shootings in the first year of 2018: that's an acceptable cost of freedom? Do nothing?

We are by a wide margin the most violent nation of the so-called Free and Democratic World. It will take the combined deaths or injuries from guns of the five nearest countries to us to equal our stats. You don't have a problem with that fact? Again, the price of freedom?

What is the real threat? Right wing conspiracy! "The Left wants our guns so they can swoop down in Black helicopters in the middle of the night, with Left-wing's elite Russian force, to confiscate all weapons for their coup." This is the only reason we do not have sane gun control measures. NRA propaganda.

The Second Amendment is not sacrosanct, and even if misinterpreted to mean all citizens have the right to bear arms, we have a clear mandate to make such possession "regulated." Controlled. The State is not enough. It needs to be federal, as originally intended. Universal!

A failure to do is playing the role of the "permissive parent": "Go and kill, my son and daughter, but be home for late night snacks. Our Constitution loves you no matter what. It is your freedom."
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly... (show quote)



Australia took the guns away from it’t people and look at how it’s effecting the Australian.
Then come up with another plan. Because the problem remains that they didn’t get all of the guns. The lawless seems to come up with a way to inflect their lawless ways.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:36:30   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Vernon, take a breath. Did you read what I said about violence in America? Do not do the alt-right blindness. I made a specific category of violence. (And I am not sure you are right about Mexico.) Your post is meaningless.


I am positive he is right about Mexico. With one third of our population, last year they had twice as many murders. Their per capita murder rate is almost five times as high as ours, and it's nearly impossible for a civilian to legally own a gun in Mexico.
People like you will not admit the real problem, which is born out by the FBI's uniform crime report, and by UN statistics. Most of the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30, and by illegal Hispanics. The murder rate for whites of European ancestry is about the same whether it is the US, the UK, Canada, Germany, or the Scandinavian countries; around 1:100,000.
Violence in America is largely perpetrated by your precious minorities; and the victims are usually other minorities. Nearly half the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30. More than half the murder victims in this country are blacks, and about 94% of their murderers are other blacks, usually in the demographic I mentioned.
Oh yes, the book you mentioned? Is it as imaginary as it's incorrect conclusion? You don't agree with the SCOTUS decision? Too bad. You are perfectly free to not own a gun. You are free to believe that a gun ban would keep you safe. Move to Mexico. They have gun control.

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Jan 27, 2018 20:47:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly screened, all reviewers say the author is correct.

And even if he is wrong, 11 school shootings in the first year of 2018: that's an acceptable cost of freedom? Do nothing?

We are by a wide margin the most violent nation of the so-called Free and Democratic World. It will take the combined deaths or injuries from guns of the five nearest countries to us to equal our stats. You don't have a problem with that fact? Again, the price of freedom?

What is the real threat? Right wing conspiracy! "The Left wants our guns so they can swoop down in Black helicopters in the middle of the night, with Left-wing's elite Russian force, to confiscate all weapons for their coup." This is the only reason we do not have sane gun control measures. NRA propaganda.

The Second Amendment is not sacrosanct, and even if misinterpreted to mean all citizens have the right to bear arms, we have a clear mandate to make such possession "regulated." Controlled. The State is not enough. It needs to be federal, as originally intended. Universal!

A failure to do is playing the role of the "permissive parent": "Go and kill, my son and daughter, but be home for late night snacks. Our Constitution loves you no matter what. It is your freedom."
Ten years in research, meticulously and thoroughly... (show quote)
The United States isn't even in the top 50 most dangerous nations on earth. The nations with the highest rates of violence are those in which private firearm ownership is severely restricted or prohibited altogether.

The 2nd amendment is, in fact, sacrosanct, our right to defend ourselves is God given, it is inalienable. And FYI, our founders' original intent was to limit the power of the federal government to its primary purpose.

If it weren't for liberal godless, humanistic, multicultural, multilingual, divisive, racist, politically correct, Kumbayah, Utopian bullshit, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Now, what f*cking book has driven you to orgasms?

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Jan 27, 2018 20:49:58   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Loki wrote:
I am positive he is right about Mexico. With one third of our population, last year they had twice as many murders. Their per capita murder rate is almost five times as high as ours, and it's nearly impossible for a civilian to legally own a gun in Mexico.
People like you will not admit the real problem, which is born out by the FBI's uniform crime report, and by UN statistics. Most of the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30, and by illegal Hispanics. The murder rate for whites of European ancestry is about the same whether it is the US, the UK, Canada, Germany, or the Scandinavian countries; around 1:100,000.
Violence in America is largely perpetrated by your precious minorities; and the victims are usually other minorities. Nearly half the murders in this country are committed by urban black males aged 15-30. More than half the murder victims in this country are blacks, and about 94% of their murderers are other blacks, usually in the demographic I mentioned.
Oh yes, the book you mentioned? Is it as imaginary as it's incorrect conclusion? You don't agree with the SCOTUS decision? Too bad. You are perfectly free to not own a gun. You are free to believe that a gun ban would keep you safe. Move to Mexico. They have gun control.
I am positive he is right about Mexico. With one t... (show quote)
60% of firearm related deaths in the US are SUICIDES.

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Jan 27, 2018 21:20:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
60% of firearm related deaths in the US are SUICIDES.


I was referring to murders. Somebody wants to kill themselves, they will find a way.

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Jan 27, 2018 21:25:29   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
And you talk about meticulous and and factual in the first sentence then the second sentence you say but even if he is wrong.

I don't think you could recognize a true fact if it slapped you up side the wall.


Vernon, when I said even if he is wrong, I meant nonetheless he is right by other facts.

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