I believe passionately in my point of view and I like nothing more than to get into discussions with those who oppose what I say, so I do not take offense at all. I commend you for your defense, but here comes the vinegar. What I do object to is your ready acceptance of what so called ' experts ' are telling you.

I have followed this stuff for a long time, as you have. I do not simply accept what I am told just because the tellers have fancy science degrees. There have been plenty of proven cases where evidence has been tampered with. The thumb on the scale like the old time butchers. If Man Made Global Warming is a true phenomenon, then there is no reason to ever adjust the physical evidence to fit the foregone conclusion.

The evidence you have presented consists of what ? A twenty year period ? Every time I present evidence against Global Warming, such as an unprecedented cold snap or a snow storm in some place where it never snows I get told that short term events are not evidence. Well twenty years of data is very short term if you are arguing that the Earth's Climate is changing.

I am sorry that I have have been harsh. I have found our conversation instructive. I had never heard of Lake Urmia until you brought it up.

Wit, the stories of tampered cases are false. Aside from that it still comes down to overwhelming evidence as I've said from many many reports and not just on droughts but on so many other things like I've also stated. I presented this topic because it is yet another reason for the world to address the world heating up and that the lack of water causes strife and disparity which in turn leads to unrest and revolution.

A cold snap is not a case against global warming, a cold snap is the weather, not the climate. Climate is tracking year after year. You're correct twenty years is a short term based on climate change, but when you see rapid change in a relatively short time, that is then an alarm going off. These increases in extreme conditions such as in forest fires, category 5 hurricanes three in one season back to back, extreme snowstorms, droughts,on and on, is from the effects of... not what the US has done but rather what man has done and it is simply our responsibility to fix what we've been doing to the planet. To say we've had no impact, is a factual lie.

Wit, the stories of tampered cases are false. Aside from that it still comes down to overwhelming evidence as I've said from many many reports and not just on droughts but on so many other things like I've also stated. I presented this topic because it is yet another reason for the world to address the world heating up and that the lack of water causes strife and disparity which in turn leads to unrest and revolution.

A cold snap is not a case against global warming, a cold snap is the weather, not the climate. Climate is tracking year after year. You're correct twenty years is a short term based on climate change, but when you see rapid change in a relatively short time, that is then an alarm going off. These increases in extreme conditions such as in forest fires, category 5 hurricanes three in one season back to back, extreme snowstorms, droughts,on and on, is from the effects of... not what the US has done but rather what man has done and it is simply our responsibility to fix what we've been doing to the planet. To say we've had no impact, is a factual lie.