Harry Reid fits the bill in my books.
Ted Kennedy was another or how about Maxine Waters.
The winner was Barry Soetoro from Indonesia, not born in the USA but Africa.
Of course US Inc. the CORPORATION that calls itself a Government.
How can a CORPORATION, like WalMart, Sears or Target call itself a Government? That's what I wish my OPP family would explain to me.
Q. Why did we have to pay England 600,000#'s of silver following the Revolutionary war with England?
Q. Why do we let the BAR ( British Accredited Registry) members aka" Esquires', a sign of nobility run our legal department. ?
Need some answers(:
Q. Have our grand parents, parents and we been ' duped' all these years?
These are the questions I ask.
okie don wrote:
Q. Why do we let the BAR ( British Accredited Registry) members aka" Esquires', a sign of nobility run our legal department. ?
Need some answers(:
One of the sources for our legal system was English common law, another was native American laws.
Before English law there was the code of Hammurabi.
moldyoldy wrote:
Your god should be in your church and in your heart, not your politics.
Yeah moldyoly, if govermnent & politics kept their part of the original bargain, mainly to confine themselves to defense & internal order. Unfortunately, government invaded the province of religion and now we have the destruction of America as envisioned by progressives from Wilson to Obama.
How's that for tit-for-tat? You and your progressives can't stand prevail over any resistance.
moldyoldy wrote:
But the widespread existence in 18th-century America of a school of religious thought called Deism complicates the actual beliefs of the Founders. Drawing from the scientific and philosophical work of such figures as Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Isaac Newton, and John Locke, Deists argued that human experience and rationality—rather than religious dogma and mystery—determine the validity of human beliefs. In his widely read The Age of Reason, Thomas Paine, the principal American exponent of Deism, called Christianity “a fable.” Paine, the protégé of Benjamin Franklin, denied “that the Almighty ever did communicate anything to man, by…speech,…language, or…vision.” Postulating a distant deity whom he called “Nature’s God” (a term also used in the Declaration of Independence), Paine declared in a “profession of faith”:
Thus, Deism inevitably subverted orthodox Christianity. Persons influenced by the movement had little reason to read the Bible, to pray, to attend church, or to participate in such rites as baptism, Holy Communion, and the laying on of hands (confirmation) by bishops. With the notable exceptions of Abigail Adams and Dolley Madison, Deism seems to have had little effect on women. For example, Martha Washington, the daughters of Thomas Jefferson, and Elizabeth Kortright Monroe and her daughters seem to have held orthodox Christian beliefs.
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The only subversion here is via the left wing God haters and your kin. Spitting out lies on this forum will never make it true.
moldyoldy wrote:
But the widespread existence in 18th-century America of a school of religious thought called Deism complicates the actual beliefs of the Founders. Drawing from the scientific and philosophical work of such figures as Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Isaac Newton, and John Locke, Deists argued that human experience and rationality—rather than religious dogma and mystery—determine the validity of human beliefs. In his widely read The Age of Reason, Thomas Paine, the principal American exponent of Deism, called Christianity “a fable.” Paine, the protégé of Benjamin Franklin, denied “that the Almighty ever did communicate anything to man, by…speech,…language, or…vision.” Postulating a distant deity whom he called “Nature’s God” (a term also used in the Declaration of Independence), Paine declared in a “profession of faith”:
Thus, Deism inevitably subverted orthodox Christianity. Persons influenced by the movement had little reason to read the Bible, to pray, to attend church, or to participate in such rites as baptism, Holy Communion, and the laying on of hands (confirmation) by bishops. With the notable exceptions of Abigail Adams and Dolley Madison, Deism seems to have had little effect on women. For example, Martha Washington, the daughters of Thomas Jefferson, and Elizabeth Kortright Monroe and her daughters seem to have held orthodox Christian beliefs.
http://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214But the widespread existence in 18th-century Ameri... (
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Many Founders who were what was known as "anti-clerical Christians" were mistakenly called Deists. There were 55 delegates at the original Constitutional Convention. Forty-nine identified as some denomination of Protestant Christian, with a couple of Catholics and others thrown in.
In the 17th and 18th centuries, religion, in the form of the Roman Catholic Church of France and Spain, and, to a lesser degree the Church of England were in fact a branch of government. They were far more secular than spiritual at least among the higher ups. The First Amendment prohibition against making any law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof was to prevent a pseudo-Theocracy such as existed in Spain especially from taking root in the US.
Anti-clerical Christians were Christians who eschewed the trappings of organized religion, and ordained clergy. They were often mistakenly identified as Deists.
cold iron wrote:
The only subversion here is via the left wing God haters and your kin. Spitting out lies on this forum will never make it true.
We'll, Iron, I wouldn't classify them as:
" left wing God haters".
I'd call them ' mentally retarded'.(:
I'm sure most feel.there is a ' Great Spirit' as the Native Indians using their terminology. ' Intelligent Designer is another concept or common description. I don't know about the ' snow flakes' tho
Loki wrote:
Many Founders who were what was known as "anti-clerical Christians" were mistakenly called Deists. There were 55 delegates at the original Constitutional Convention. Forty-nine identified as some denomination of Protestant Christian, with a couple of Catholics and others thrown in.
In the 17th and 18th centuries, religion, in the form of the Roman Catholic Church of France and Spain, and, to a lesser degree the Church of England were in fact a branch of government. They were far more secular than spiritual at least among the higher ups. The First Amendment prohibition against making any law regarding the establishment of religion or the free exercise thereof was to prevent a pseudo-Theocracy such as existed in Spain especially from taking root in the US.
Anti-clerical Christians were Christians who eschewed the trappings of organized religion, and ordained clergy. They were often mistakenly identified as Deists.
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Admitting to other than standard beliefs was unacceptable, just like today.
moldyoldy wrote:
Your god should be in your church and in your heart, not your politics.
Yeah well, you don't have the right to dictate to me what I can and cannot put in "my politics".
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