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Dec 20, 2017 07:50:24   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PeterS wrote:
So tell me Hemi. If this is true why would you need to lie about the authorship?


I said I didn’t believe he did.The Washington Post said it was done in error.

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Dec 20, 2017 08:13:41   #
PeterS
 
Hemiman wrote:
I said I didn’t believe he did.The Washington Post said it was done in error.


And how does one make an error on the authorship of an article? People don't generally misrepresent something if it contains any truth. As for the Post, it didn't print the article, simply said it's employee didn't write it...

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Dec 20, 2017 09:02:55   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Organizing for Action
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Organizing for Action Abbreviation OFA
Predecessor Obama for America
Organizing for America
Formation January 18, 2013; 4 years ago
Type 501(c)(4)
Headquarters Washington, D.C.
Chicago, IL
Region served
United States
Chairman
Jim Messina
Executive Director
Katie Hogan[1]
Affiliations Barack Obama
Website www.ofa.us

Organizing for Action (OFA) is a nonprofit 501(c)4 organization and community organizing project that advocates for the agenda of former U.S. President Barack Obama.[2][3] The organization is officially non-partisan,[3] but its agenda and policies are strongly allied with the Democratic Party.[4] It is the successor of Obama's 2012 re-election campaign and of Organizing for America, which itself succeeded Obama's 2008 campaign.[5]

Founded after Obama's re-election, the group seeks to mobilize supporters in favor of Obama's legislative priorities. OFA is registered as a 501(c)(4) organization,[6] which may advocate for legislation but is prohibited from specifically supporting political candidates.[7]

Contents

1 Background
2 Organization
3 Funding
4 References
5 External links

Background

Chairman Jim Messina (Obama's 2012 campaign manager)[8] and First Lady Michelle Obama announced the formation of OFA on January 18, 2013. White House official Jon Carson left the Obama administration to become the executive director. Campaign senior adviser David Axelrod serves as a consultant.[9]

Organizing for Action succeeds Organizing for America, which was formed under similar circumstances, but operated under the control of the Democratic National Committee.[10] In preparation for President Obama's second term, Organizing for America was relaunched as a nonprofit group in order to mobilize support behind the president's legislative and political agenda.[5]
Organization

The organization is headquartered in Chicago.[9] As a tax exempt 501(c)(4) organization, it seeks to harness the energy of the president's re-election campaign for future legislative fights.[10] The group advocates on policy issues such as gun violence prevention, climate change, LGBT issues, and immigration.[7]

In February 2013, The New York Times reported that donors contributing or raising $500,000 or more to Organizing for Action would put them on the group's national advisory board, granting the privilege of attending quarterly update meetings given by the president.[11] White House press spokesman Jay Carney denied that access to the President was being "sold," stating that OFA was an independent organization, and referred specific questions to the OFA staff.[12] On March 8, Messina told CBS News that the president might attend a "founder's summit", but stated, "Whether you're a volunteer or a donor, we can't and we won't guarantee access to any government officials. But just as the president and administration officials deliver updates on the legislative process to Americans and organizations across the ideological spectrum, there may be occasions when members of Organizing for Action are included in those updates. These are not opportunities to lobby — they are briefings on the positions the president has taken and the status of seeing them through."[13][14]

Questions have been raised about the aims and the eligibility of Organizing for Action to continue to maintain the www.barackobama.com website and also control the @barackobama Twitter account. Use of these accounts by Organizing for America is not prevented by campaign finance laws.[15]

On December 17, 2013, OFA tweeted a photograph of a young man with thick-rimmed glasses, wearing black-and-red plaid onesie pajamas, and cradling a mug. The accompanying text read: "Wear pajamas. Drink hot chocolate. Talk about getting health insurance. #GetTalking."[16] The tweet linked to the OFA website, which encouraged individuals to discuss Obamacare during the holiday season with those family members that are uninsured, and encourage them to sign up.[17][18] The tweet and pajama-clad man featured in it were quickly dubbed Pajama Boy, and mocked across social media, particularly by conservatives.[19]
Funding

Obama reelection campaign manager Jim Messina has stated that the group would not be accepting corporate donations and would disclose donation amounts,[20] and OFA executive director Jon Carson and Messina have both stated that OFA is a non-partisan, grassroots issue advocacy group.[21] In March 2013, OFA said that it would begin to publish its donors list (including donation amounts) on a quarterly basis.[22] In May 2014, the organization halved its staff and announced that it would stop requesting large contributions.[23]
References

Sweet, Lynn (April 18, 2016). "Katie Hogan new chief of Chicago-based Organizing for Action". Chicago Sun-Times. Retrieved June 13, 2016.
"Obama unveils 'Organizing for Action'". Politico. January 17, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"Organizing for Action FAQ". OFA. 2013. Retrieved May 18, 2013.
Milkis, Sidney; York, John (July 29, 2015). "If the Obama presidency is winding down, why is his group Organizing for Action ramping up?". The Washington Post. Retrieved November 16, 2015.
"Obama campaign to become nonprofit, Organizing for Action". The Washington Post. January 18, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"The New Nixon". WSJ. May 10, 2013. Retrieved May 18, 2013.
"Obama campaign evolving into group to push his agenda". Reuters. January 18, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"Organizing for Action Won't Take Corporate Cash". The Washington Post. Retrieved March 9, 2013.
Blumenthal, Paul (January 18, 2013). "Organizing For Action: Obama Campaign Relaunches As Issue-Based Nonprofit". The Huffington Post. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
Gold, Matea (January 18, 2013). "Obama aides launch Organizing for Action to back his agenda". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
Confessore, Nicholas (February 22, 2013). "Obama's Backers Seek Big Donors to Press Agenda". The New York Times. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
"Are donors paying for access to Obama?". CBS News. February 25, 2013. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Sink, Justin (March 8, 2013). "Messina: Obama may meet with OFA donors amid controversy". The Hill. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Why we're raising money to support Obama agenda; CNN; March 7, 2013
Obama sharing Twitter account with controversial campaign spin-off; The Washington Post. Retrieved 05/29/13.
"How do you plan to spend the cold days of December?". Twitter. Organizing for Action. December 17, 2013.
"Health Care for the Holidays". Organizing for Action.
Cillizza, Chris (December 20, 2013). "Who had the worst week in Washington? Pajama Boy". The Washington Post.
"Christie tweets retort to Obama's 'Pajama Boy'". The Washington Post. December 18, 2013.
Thomas, Ken (March 7, 2013). "Group Backing Obama Won't Take Corporate Money". Associated Press. Retrieved April 4, 2013.
Sink, Justin (March 13, 2013). "Obama allies defend OFA amid 'pay-to-play' access controversy". The Hill. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Steiner, Keenan (March 13, 2013). "Pro-Obama group insists it's not selling access". Sunlight Foundation Reporting Group. Retrieved April 4, 2013.

Bump, Phillip (May 20, 2014). "How much longer will Organizing for Action survive?". The Washington Post. Retrieved November 16, 2015.

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Frankly who wrote the article is of secondary nature. What the organization does is what matters. It is apparently a far left organization based on the Alynsky concepts which are the basis for Obama's beliefs, and well taught to him by Frank Marshall Davis.

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Dec 20, 2017 09:26:45   #
moldyoldy
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Organizing for Action
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Organizing for Action Abbreviation OFA
Predecessor Obama for America
Organizing for America
Formation January 18, 2013; 4 years ago
Type 501(c)(4)
Headquarters Washington, D.C.
Chicago, IL
Region served
United States
Chairman
Jim Messina
Executive Director
Katie Hogan[1]
Affiliations Barack Obama
Website www.ofa.us

Organizing for Action (OFA) is a nonprofit 501(c)4 organization and community organizing project that advocates for the agenda of former U.S. President Barack Obama.[2][3] The organization is officially non-partisan,[3] but its agenda and policies are strongly allied with the Democratic Party.[4] It is the successor of Obama's 2012 re-election campaign and of Organizing for America, which itself succeeded Obama's 2008 campaign.[5]

Founded after Obama's re-election, the group seeks to mobilize supporters in favor of Obama's legislative priorities. OFA is registered as a 501(c)(4) organization,[6] which may advocate for legislation but is prohibited from specifically supporting political candidates.[7]

Contents

1 Background
2 Organization
3 Funding
4 References
5 External links

Background

Chairman Jim Messina (Obama's 2012 campaign manager)[8] and First Lady Michelle Obama announced the formation of OFA on January 18, 2013. White House official Jon Carson left the Obama administration to become the executive director. Campaign senior adviser David Axelrod serves as a consultant.[9]

Organizing for Action succeeds Organizing for America, which was formed under similar circumstances, but operated under the control of the Democratic National Committee.[10] In preparation for President Obama's second term, Organizing for America was relaunched as a nonprofit group in order to mobilize support behind the president's legislative and political agenda.[5]
Organization

The organization is headquartered in Chicago.[9] As a tax exempt 501(c)(4) organization, it seeks to harness the energy of the president's re-election campaign for future legislative fights.[10] The group advocates on policy issues such as gun violence prevention, climate change, LGBT issues, and immigration.[7]

In February 2013, The New York Times reported that donors contributing or raising $500,000 or more to Organizing for Action would put them on the group's national advisory board, granting the privilege of attending quarterly update meetings given by the president.[11] White House press spokesman Jay Carney denied that access to the President was being "sold," stating that OFA was an independent organization, and referred specific questions to the OFA staff.[12] On March 8, Messina told CBS News that the president might attend a "founder's summit", but stated, "Whether you're a volunteer or a donor, we can't and we won't guarantee access to any government officials. But just as the president and administration officials deliver updates on the legislative process to Americans and organizations across the ideological spectrum, there may be occasions when members of Organizing for Action are included in those updates. These are not opportunities to lobby — they are briefings on the positions the president has taken and the status of seeing them through."[13][14]

Questions have been raised about the aims and the eligibility of Organizing for Action to continue to maintain the www.barackobama.com website and also control the @barackobama Twitter account. Use of these accounts by Organizing for America is not prevented by campaign finance laws.[15]

On December 17, 2013, OFA tweeted a photograph of a young man with thick-rimmed glasses, wearing black-and-red plaid onesie pajamas, and cradling a mug. The accompanying text read: "Wear pajamas. Drink hot chocolate. Talk about getting health insurance. #GetTalking."[16] The tweet linked to the OFA website, which encouraged individuals to discuss Obamacare during the holiday season with those family members that are uninsured, and encourage them to sign up.[17][18] The tweet and pajama-clad man featured in it were quickly dubbed Pajama Boy, and mocked across social media, particularly by conservatives.[19]
Funding

Obama reelection campaign manager Jim Messina has stated that the group would not be accepting corporate donations and would disclose donation amounts,[20] and OFA executive director Jon Carson and Messina have both stated that OFA is a non-partisan, grassroots issue advocacy group.[21] In March 2013, OFA said that it would begin to publish its donors list (including donation amounts) on a quarterly basis.[22] In May 2014, the organization halved its staff and announced that it would stop requesting large contributions.[23]
References

Sweet, Lynn (April 18, 2016). "Katie Hogan new chief of Chicago-based Organizing for Action". Chicago Sun-Times. Retrieved June 13, 2016.
"Obama unveils 'Organizing for Action'". Politico. January 17, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"Organizing for Action FAQ". OFA. 2013. Retrieved May 18, 2013.
Milkis, Sidney; York, John (July 29, 2015). "If the Obama presidency is winding down, why is his group Organizing for Action ramping up?". The Washington Post. Retrieved November 16, 2015.
"Obama campaign to become nonprofit, Organizing for Action". The Washington Post. January 18, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"The New Nixon". WSJ. May 10, 2013. Retrieved May 18, 2013.
"Obama campaign evolving into group to push his agenda". Reuters. January 18, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"Organizing for Action Won't Take Corporate Cash". The Washington Post. Retrieved March 9, 2013.
Blumenthal, Paul (January 18, 2013). "Organizing For Action: Obama Campaign Relaunches As Issue-Based Nonprofit". The Huffington Post. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
Gold, Matea (January 18, 2013). "Obama aides launch Organizing for Action to back his agenda". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
Confessore, Nicholas (February 22, 2013). "Obama's Backers Seek Big Donors to Press Agenda". The New York Times. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
"Are donors paying for access to Obama?". CBS News. February 25, 2013. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Sink, Justin (March 8, 2013). "Messina: Obama may meet with OFA donors amid controversy". The Hill. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Why we're raising money to support Obama agenda; CNN; March 7, 2013
Obama sharing Twitter account with controversial campaign spin-off; The Washington Post. Retrieved 05/29/13.
"How do you plan to spend the cold days of December?". Twitter. Organizing for Action. December 17, 2013.
"Health Care for the Holidays". Organizing for Action.
Cillizza, Chris (December 20, 2013). "Who had the worst week in Washington? Pajama Boy". The Washington Post.
"Christie tweets retort to Obama's 'Pajama Boy'". The Washington Post. December 18, 2013.
Thomas, Ken (March 7, 2013). "Group Backing Obama Won't Take Corporate Money". Associated Press. Retrieved April 4, 2013.
Sink, Justin (March 13, 2013). "Obama allies defend OFA amid 'pay-to-play' access controversy". The Hill. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Steiner, Keenan (March 13, 2013). "Pro-Obama group insists it's not selling access". Sunlight Foundation Reporting Group. Retrieved April 4, 2013.

Bump, Phillip (May 20, 2014). "How much longer will Organizing for Action survive?". The Washington Post. Retrieved November 16, 2015.

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Frankly who wrote the article is of secondary nature. What the organization does is what matters. It is apparently a far left organization based on the Alynsky concepts which are the basis for Obama's beliefs, and well taught to him by Frank Marshall Davis.
Organizing for Action br From Wikipedia, the free ... (show quote)


Or, it is a typical political action committee .

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Dec 20, 2017 11:50:51   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Let's take a better look at this predetermined sequence of events:

Loki wrote:
Trump issues an immigration executive order; the OFA signals for protests and statements from pro-immigrant groups; the ACLU lawyers file lawsuits in jurisdictions where activist judges obstruct the laws; volunteers are called to protest at airports and Congressional town hall meetings; the leftist media springs to action in support of these activities; the twitter sphere lights up with social media; and violence follows. All of this happens from the ex-president's signal that he is heartened by the protests
Trump issues an immigration executive order; the O... (show quote)


This is known as subversion. It is an attempt to undermine the power and authority of an established system or institution, in this case, the Federal government. That's bad enough, but the idea of whether it could be construed as a betrayal would be a question for better legal minds than mine. If it is reasonably deemed as a betrayal, then it rises to the level of treason.

I suppose it all comes down to a question of whether an ex President is still legally bound by his oath of office or whether that oath 'expires' with his term as President. Searches on the internet come up blank. Gee, what a surprise...

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Dec 20, 2017 16:39:44   #
PeterS
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Or, it is a typical political action committee .

To conservatives Obama is the boogeyman. He's black, he's brilliant, he's a liberal democrat, and--did I mention--he's black. He's every evil that they've ever imagined come to pass. There will never be anything typical about him...

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Dec 20, 2017 16:46:08   #
PeterS
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Let's take a better look at this predetermined sequence of events:



This is known as subversion. It is an attempt to undermine the power and authority of an established system or institution, in this case, the Federal government. That's bad enough, but the idea of whether it could be construed as a betrayal would be a question for better legal minds than mine. If it is reasonably deemed as a betrayal, then it rises to the level of treason.

I suppose it all comes down to a question of whether an ex President is still legally bound by his oath of office or whether that oath 'expires' with his term as President. Searches on the internet come up blank. Gee, what a surprise...
Let's take a better look at this predetermined seq... (show quote)

Like conservatives sit back and did nothing when Obama issued EO's. Subversion indeed...

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Dec 20, 2017 16:51:12   #
PeterS
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Organizing for Action
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Organizing for Action Abbreviation OFA
Predecessor Obama for America
Organizing for America
Formation January 18, 2013; 4 years ago
Type 501(c)(4)
Headquarters Washington, D.C.
Chicago, IL
Region served
United States
Chairman
Jim Messina
Executive Director
Katie Hogan[1]
Affiliations Barack Obama
Website www.ofa.us

Organizing for Action (OFA) is a nonprofit 501(c)4 organization and community organizing project that advocates for the agenda of former U.S. President Barack Obama.[2][3] The organization is officially non-partisan,[3] but its agenda and policies are strongly allied with the Democratic Party.[4] It is the successor of Obama's 2012 re-election campaign and of Organizing for America, which itself succeeded Obama's 2008 campaign.[5]

Founded after Obama's re-election, the group seeks to mobilize supporters in favor of Obama's legislative priorities. OFA is registered as a 501(c)(4) organization,[6] which may advocate for legislation but is prohibited from specifically supporting political candidates.[7]

Contents

1 Background
2 Organization
3 Funding
4 References
5 External links

Background

Chairman Jim Messina (Obama's 2012 campaign manager)[8] and First Lady Michelle Obama announced the formation of OFA on January 18, 2013. White House official Jon Carson left the Obama administration to become the executive director. Campaign senior adviser David Axelrod serves as a consultant.[9]

Organizing for Action succeeds Organizing for America, which was formed under similar circumstances, but operated under the control of the Democratic National Committee.[10] In preparation for President Obama's second term, Organizing for America was relaunched as a nonprofit group in order to mobilize support behind the president's legislative and political agenda.[5]
Organization

The organization is headquartered in Chicago.[9] As a tax exempt 501(c)(4) organization, it seeks to harness the energy of the president's re-election campaign for future legislative fights.[10] The group advocates on policy issues such as gun violence prevention, climate change, LGBT issues, and immigration.[7]

In February 2013, The New York Times reported that donors contributing or raising $500,000 or more to Organizing for Action would put them on the group's national advisory board, granting the privilege of attending quarterly update meetings given by the president.[11] White House press spokesman Jay Carney denied that access to the President was being "sold," stating that OFA was an independent organization, and referred specific questions to the OFA staff.[12] On March 8, Messina told CBS News that the president might attend a "founder's summit", but stated, "Whether you're a volunteer or a donor, we can't and we won't guarantee access to any government officials. But just as the president and administration officials deliver updates on the legislative process to Americans and organizations across the ideological spectrum, there may be occasions when members of Organizing for Action are included in those updates. These are not opportunities to lobby — they are briefings on the positions the president has taken and the status of seeing them through."[13][14]

Questions have been raised about the aims and the eligibility of Organizing for Action to continue to maintain the www.barackobama.com website and also control the @barackobama Twitter account. Use of these accounts by Organizing for America is not prevented by campaign finance laws.[15]

On December 17, 2013, OFA tweeted a photograph of a young man with thick-rimmed glasses, wearing black-and-red plaid onesie pajamas, and cradling a mug. The accompanying text read: "Wear pajamas. Drink hot chocolate. Talk about getting health insurance. #GetTalking."[16] The tweet linked to the OFA website, which encouraged individuals to discuss Obamacare during the holiday season with those family members that are uninsured, and encourage them to sign up.[17][18] The tweet and pajama-clad man featured in it were quickly dubbed Pajama Boy, and mocked across social media, particularly by conservatives.[19]
Funding

Obama reelection campaign manager Jim Messina has stated that the group would not be accepting corporate donations and would disclose donation amounts,[20] and OFA executive director Jon Carson and Messina have both stated that OFA is a non-partisan, grassroots issue advocacy group.[21] In March 2013, OFA said that it would begin to publish its donors list (including donation amounts) on a quarterly basis.[22] In May 2014, the organization halved its staff and announced that it would stop requesting large contributions.[23]
References

Sweet, Lynn (April 18, 2016). "Katie Hogan new chief of Chicago-based Organizing for Action". Chicago Sun-Times. Retrieved June 13, 2016.
"Obama unveils 'Organizing for Action'". Politico. January 17, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"Organizing for Action FAQ". OFA. 2013. Retrieved May 18, 2013.
Milkis, Sidney; York, John (July 29, 2015). "If the Obama presidency is winding down, why is his group Organizing for Action ramping up?". The Washington Post. Retrieved November 16, 2015.
"Obama campaign to become nonprofit, Organizing for Action". The Washington Post. January 18, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"The New Nixon". WSJ. May 10, 2013. Retrieved May 18, 2013.
"Obama campaign evolving into group to push his agenda". Reuters. January 18, 2013. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
"Organizing for Action Won't Take Corporate Cash". The Washington Post. Retrieved March 9, 2013.
Blumenthal, Paul (January 18, 2013). "Organizing For Action: Obama Campaign Relaunches As Issue-Based Nonprofit". The Huffington Post. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
Gold, Matea (January 18, 2013). "Obama aides launch Organizing for Action to back his agenda". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved January 21, 2013.
Confessore, Nicholas (February 22, 2013). "Obama's Backers Seek Big Donors to Press Agenda". The New York Times. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
"Are donors paying for access to Obama?". CBS News. February 25, 2013. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Sink, Justin (March 8, 2013). "Messina: Obama may meet with OFA donors amid controversy". The Hill. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Why we're raising money to support Obama agenda; CNN; March 7, 2013
Obama sharing Twitter account with controversial campaign spin-off; The Washington Post. Retrieved 05/29/13.
"How do you plan to spend the cold days of December?". Twitter. Organizing for Action. December 17, 2013.
"Health Care for the Holidays". Organizing for Action.
Cillizza, Chris (December 20, 2013). "Who had the worst week in Washington? Pajama Boy". The Washington Post.
"Christie tweets retort to Obama's 'Pajama Boy'". The Washington Post. December 18, 2013.
Thomas, Ken (March 7, 2013). "Group Backing Obama Won't Take Corporate Money". Associated Press. Retrieved April 4, 2013.
Sink, Justin (March 13, 2013). "Obama allies defend OFA amid 'pay-to-play' access controversy". The Hill. Retrieved March 16, 2013.
Steiner, Keenan (March 13, 2013). "Pro-Obama group insists it's not selling access". Sunlight Foundation Reporting Group. Retrieved April 4, 2013.

Bump, Phillip (May 20, 2014). "How much longer will Organizing for Action survive?". The Washington Post. Retrieved November 16, 2015.

---------------
Frankly who wrote the article is of secondary nature. What the organization does is what matters. It is apparently a far left organization based on the Alynsky concepts which are the basis for Obama's beliefs, and well taught to him by Frank Marshall Davis.
Organizing for Action br From Wikipedia, the free ... (show quote)

Oooo Alynsky. The man who makes every conservative shit their pants. Quick, run and hide before he gets you...

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Dec 20, 2017 17:00:02   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
PeterS wrote:
Like conservatives sit back and did nothing when Obama issued EO's. Subversion indeed...


EO's are executive privilege. To say congress sat back and did nothing means nothing, because they had no input in the first place. Duh!

Why are you trying to misdirect this thread? Is there something you're not telling us? Are you in on this subversive project? You are, aren't you? You're a part of it! You're a Subversive!



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Dec 20, 2017 19:13:31   #
PeterS
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
EO's are executive privilege. To say congress sat back and did nothing means nothing, because they had no input in the first place. Duh!

Why are you trying to misdirect this thread? Is there something you're not telling us? Are you in on this subversive project? You are, aren't you? You're a part of it! You're a Subversive!


How was that a misdirection? You act as if people have no right to organize and form opposition parties. Well sorry but they do. And just as you had every right to oppose everything Obama did we have the same right to oppose everything Trump does. If Obama want's to be active in that--so what!

Oh, and I do like how lost in all this is that this story is complete bullshit to begin with. But yeah, real subversive....

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Dec 20, 2017 20:07:26   #
Richard Rowland
 
PeterS wrote:
You guys don't fact check anything do you. You are honestly the most gullible people this country ever produced...


Obviously, you're a little on the gullible side yourself, PeterS. Or haven't you noticed that Snopes has a bit of a problem themselves, telling the facts as they are?

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Dec 20, 2017 21:03:09   #
PeterS
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Obviously, you're a little on the gullible side yourself, PeterS. Or haven't you noticed that Snopes has a bit of a problem themselves, telling the facts as they are?

Oh you guys don't believe any source that tells the truth. Kinda blows that pathetic little world you invented for yourselves all to hell huh. Below is the side by side of the original article and the one attributed to Krauthammer. I would say--you decide--but you're a conservative so we know you already have...


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Dec 20, 2017 21:55:11   #
Richard Rowland
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh you guys don't believe any source that tells the truth. Kinda blows that pathetic little world you invented for yourselves all to hell huh. Below is the side by side of the original article and the one attributed to Krauthammer. I would say--you decide--but you're a conservative so we know you already have...



Krauthammer and this article aside, I'm just pointing out that, regardless how reliable you think Snopes is, others who have no ax to grind where Snopes is concerned, other than the desire for accuracy, have pointed out the bias and inaccuracies often attributed to Snopes, so-called, fact checks.

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Dec 20, 2017 22:12:13   #
PeterS
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Krauthammer and this article aside, I'm just pointing out that, regardless how reliable you think Snopes is, others who have no ax to grind where Snopes is concerned, other than the desire for accuracy, have pointed out the bias and inaccuracies often attributed to Snopes, so-called, fact checks.


And why is the Krauthammer article aside? If there is any inaccuracies then point them out. And just why do you guys care so much about bias. You do know that people can have a bias and still tell the truth. If you're going to discredit everything because of bias then there is nothing you can read or watch--with the exception of your own propaganda. As for Scopes--I take it one article at a time. If you can't do that then feel free to believe any garbage you like. I hear Obama has secret FEMA camps set up just to lock up you conservative so watch out...

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Dec 21, 2017 04:13:36   #
eden
 
PeterS wrote:
And why is the Krauthammer article aside? If there is any inaccuracies then point them out. And just why do you guys care so much about bias. You do know that people can have a bias and still tell the truth. If you're going to discredit everything because of bias then there is nothing you can read or watch--with the exception of your own propaganda. As for Scopes--I take it one article at a time. If you can't do that then feel free to believe any garbage you like. I hear Obama has secret FEMA camps set up just to lock up you conservative so watch out...
And why is the Krauthammer article aside? If there... (show quote)


Yessssss....remember Jade Helm?

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