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Loki Loc: Georgia

Morgan wrote:

I don't necessarily disagree with you here, I guess more to my point I was trying to make is that this would be a last result at the conclusion that nothing else will work. Which for the terrorists we have come to that conclusion, but all Muslims are not terrorists.

Morgan

Loki wrote:

How are you tying this in with Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? Clinton did it; even Obama did it. Most of the Democrat movers and shakers in the Senate and House voted for it, some twice, as long as it was a Democrat president.
A good many Turks won't feel safe in their own country as long as Erdogan is the fearless leader.

You may be right, honestly I haven't followed him, there seem to be polarized opinions here similar to Trump's. He did win the first election but that may mean nothing. I was asking you before if it was your opinion looking for some feedback of something you already knew of. I'll have to look more into him. I thought the president had enough on his plate right now than to go juggle this bees nest from its branch.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

JFlorio wrote:

Morning, feisty. Glad you’re better. These lefty’s slay me. Everything was hunky dorey until Trump followed up on a campaign promise. I’d like to see the US cut off all aid and money to Muslim countries or territories that support jihad. Hmmm, wonder if that would include Obama’s pension?

I think it’s a very good suggestion!’
Why don’t we do this with those countries that are terrorist or promote it!! When we give them money, what is it really used for???

It has long been a divisive issue: how much money the United States gives to foreign nations in aid, what kind of relief it gives etc..

Some argue we provide food, shelter yet others argue the to fraud and the misuse of aid, inadequate tracking of provisions..

What ever it is stop it until we know where it goes and how it’s used..

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Morgan wrote:

You may be right, honestly I haven't followed him, there seem to be polarized opinions here similar to Trump's. He did win the first election but that may mean nothing. I was asking you before if it was your opinion looking for some feedback of something you already knew of. I'll have to look more into him. I thought the president had enough on his plate right now than to go juggle this bees nest from its branch.

Please study the Jerusalem embassy act of 1995.

Clinton was president but was too busy chasing Monica to enforce it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

lindajoy wrote:

I think it’s a very good suggestion!’ br Why don’t... (show quote)

See Haiti. Should be the richest island in history with all the billion dumped there. Still a cesspool.

vernon

Kevyn wrote:

Sadly it is all about him, as the Mueller investigation rolls up people closer and closer to Trump he commits acts of buffoonery to muddy the waters.

Sorry but buffoonery is the bally whack of the loonie left.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Morgan wrote:

My question why does he continually stir the pot, create Chaos and pin more people against us. Has anyone else seen what's erupted over here due to Trumps actions?

What "peace" are you talking about? What pot is Trump stirring that hasn't been stirring for decades? When did the eruptions begin?

emarine

Blade_Runner wrote:

What "peace" are you talking about? What pot is Trump stirring that hasn't been stirring for decades? When did the eruptions begin?

the real question here is about the timing..."was this the right time???"...this issue is many decades old... I'm not to sure a campaign promise over rules diplomacy even when diplomacy has failed many times... it was a very inciting move that may lead to all out war... are we prepared for war at this point in time???... I do think we're provoking one...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

emarine wrote:

the real question here is about the timing..."was this the right time???"...this issue is many decades old... I'm not to sure a campaign promise over rules diplomacy even when diplomacy has failed many times... it was a very inciting move that may lead to all out war... are we prepared for war at this point in time???... I do think we're provoking one...

It’s coming whether we are prepared or not. Time to pick sides.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

JFlorio wrote:

See Haiti. Should be the richest island in history with all the billion dumped there. Still a cesspool.

Cultural~~ should be but no true society or moral compass as well.. Sad..

emarine

JFlorio wrote:

It’s coming whether we are prepared or not. Time to pick sides.

I think everyone here knows what side I'm on... but what side are the Just Muslims going to follow when provoked...this is the question... the best way to turn a peaceful just Muslim into a radical unjust one is to kill the wrong one's family member... This is why the Arab nations surrounding Palestine won't accept them back... the peaceful just Arabs in Palestine are pawns of Radical Islam and this should be stopped by force... Maybe this is Trumps plan if in fact Trump has a plan & not a thoughtless election promise fulfilled? ...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

emarine wrote:

the real question here is about the timing..."was this the right time???"...this issue is many decades old... I'm not to sure a campaign promise over rules diplomacy even when diplomacy has failed many times... it was a very inciting move that may lead to all out war... are we prepared for war at this point in time???... I do think we're provoking one...

Would any time be the right time??

Waiting for stability in a region that knows only fighting?

What has really changed other than giving the Palestinians another reason to fight..

We ticked them off?? It’s going to cause more unpheaval with the Muslims?? Will alienate other allies ??

He campaigned on this very issue and is once again fulfilling his commitment to the people of this country, maybe not others..

Perhaps this will as you said in another thread “ just speed up what was going to happen anyway”??

I don’t believe it will add up to all out war.. I think it speeds up where they; Israel and Palestine need to be.

Not everything is smooth sailing especially in the Middle East...

Loki Loc: Georgia

Morgan wrote:

You may be right, honestly I haven't followed him, there seem to be polarized opinions here similar to Trump's. He did win the first election but that may mean nothing. I was asking you before if it was your opinion looking for some feedback of something you already knew of. I'll have to look more into him. I thought the president had enough on his plate right now than to go juggle this bees nest from its branch.

You think that re-stating the SAME THING stated by Presidents Clinton and Obama is "juggling a bees' nest?
You think that all of the influential Democrats who supported this very thing (as long as it was Obama who said it, and before that, Clintoon) and now suddenly are opposed when Trump proposes it are absolutely on the money?

Morgan

Loki wrote:

You think that re-stating the SAME THING stated by Presidents Clinton and Obama is "juggling a bees' nest?
You think that all of the influential Democrats who supported this very thing (as long as it was Obama who said it, and before that, Clintoon) and now suddenly are opposed when Trump proposes it are absolutely on the money?

I haven't really heard them oppose it as much as questioning the timing of it as emarine has said. Both sides are guilty of the same offense as far as supporting something until the other side supports doing it, again, why I'm against parties. I'm open to the possibility of getting this out on the table to find a resolve, if that is the intention, but it's nearly impossible when all or if parties involved here are rigid but it appears to be just fueling the fires ambers.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I disagree. The Arab states could easily accommodate the Palestinians. Then they would lose a talking point against Israel. Israel at one time offered more land than the Palestinians were initially seeking and were turned down.

emarine wrote:

I think everyone here knows what side I'm on... bu... (show quote)