Morgan wrote:
Turkish President Recap Tayyip Erdogan, who next week will host a summit of 57 Arab and Muslim states, accused Trump of tossing the Middle East into a “ring of fire,” and questioned what Trump hoped to achieve.
“It’s not possible to understand what (he is) trying to get out of it,” said Erdogan. “Political leaders exist not to stir things up, but to make peace.
http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/bonokoski-by-choosing-jerusalem-trump-throws-a-new-wrench-into-peaceMy question why does he continually stir the pot, create Chaos and pin more people against us. Has anyone else seen what's erupted over here due to Trumps actions?
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Erdogan's definition of peace' like that of his allies is the world under Islam.
Morgan wrote:
Yes, since Trump has been in office, he just won't be satisfied until that is the outcome, why do you think that is?
War is inevitable ma'am.
And it has nothing to do with Trump.
It has everything to do with prophecy.
Believe what you will, but don't expect peace.
We are warriors.
That's what we do.
That's how we took this land and that's what it will take to keep it.
Loki wrote:
Erdogan is not exactly for us.
You do realize that Turkey is a member of NATO right on the Russian, Syrian, Iranian and Iraqi borders.
Kevyn wrote:
You do realize that Turkey is a member of NATO right on the Russian, Syrian, Iranian and Iraqi borders.
I have trained with Turkish troops. The best favor they could do us is join the Iranians.
Yes, this is mentioned in the article I posted, but this still doesn't answer the question, why now, and why done in such a manner? I believe it could have been done more diplomatically and not so heavy handedly.
Morgan wrote:
Yes, this is mentioned in the article I posted, but this still doesn't answer the question, why now, and why done in such a manner? I believe it could have been done more diplomatically and not so heavy handedly.
Just how, pray tell, do you be diplomatic with a thug like Erdogan? You think we should make nicey-nice with ISIS and some more of his BFF's?
Wolf counselor wrote:
War is inevitable ma'am.
And it has nothing to do with Trump.
It has everything to do with prophecy.
Believe what you will, but don't expect peace.
We are warriors.
That's what we do.
That's how we took this land and that's what it will take to keep it.
I see, but we are more than just warriors aren't we? War is inevitable if that is all we believe. We do create our reality. And if you believe in prophecy than you know that peace is also inevitable.
Your line of thinking perpetuates nothing new, only repeating our same mistakes, a never ending circle. Didn't you ever watch Ground Hog Day?
That was just funny my finger missed the g and it was Ground Ho Day,
Morgan wrote:
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I never compare reality to movie script.
And the peace you speak of is written upon the scroll of eternity.
Now is the time of war.
And you are either with us or against us.
Loki wrote:
Just how, pray tell, do you be diplomatic with a thug like Erdogan? You think we should make nicey-nice with ISIS and some more of his BFF's?
LOL no Loki, I knew you were going to say something like that.
Does it always have to be one extreme to the next? We will never settle this argument for them, we all know that, we also can't be dragged into this endless confrontation at our expense, I don't think we can act as their arbitrator either.
We all know what is needed and that is some form of compromise, what would be best for us is to have these people feel safe in their own country, stopping these mass exoduses from Middle East countries. And yes with ISIS there is no other choice. But if people had a place o go as a refuge from ISIS that would probably put a halt to them expanding. Especially if we could protect the women and children, especially the children, since they brainwash them at a very early age.
Wolf counselor wrote:
I never compare reality to movie script.
And the peace you speak of is written upon the scroll of eternity.
Now is the time of war.
And you are either with us or against us.
It wasn't comparing reality to a movie, it was about the moral of the story... if we are never conscious or aware of the mistakes we make, we are doomed to repeat them.
Who's us, the human race? I'm with ya
Morgan wrote:
LOL no Loki, I knew you were going to say something like that.
Does it always have to be one extreme to the next? We will never settle this argument for them, we all know that, we also can't be dragged into this endless confrontation at our expense, I don't think we can act as their arbitrator either.
We all know what is needed and that is some form of compromise, what would be best for us is to have these people feel safe in their own country, stopping these mass exoduses from Middle East countries. And yes with ISIS there is no other choice. But if people had a place o go as a refuge from ISIS that would probably put a halt to them expanding. Especially if we could protect the women and children, especially the children, since they brainwash them at a very early age.
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Don’t believe you’ve been in many fisticuffs. If you are getting into a confrontation with a thug, bully, extremist, who is never going to compromise you have two choices. Flee or fight. If you flee it never stops. Just saying.
Loki wrote:
Yep. He communicates. If you don't do what he says you are dead. That's as peaceful as you can get.
And that is a true statement!!
His hatred of Sisi has spilled into the people that before lived in harmony, married and believed in Democracy for all...
Truly a shame...
Morgan wrote:
LOL no Loki, I knew you were going to say something like that.
Does it always have to be one extreme to the next? We will never settle this argument for them, we all know that, we also can't be dragged into this endless confrontation at our expense, I don't think we can act as their arbitrator either.
We all know what is needed and that is some form of compromise, what would be best for us is to have these people feel safe in their own country, stopping these mass exoduses from Middle East countries. And yes with ISIS there is no other choice. But if people had a place o go as a refuge from ISIS that would probably put a halt to them expanding. Especially if we could protect the women and children, especially the children, since they brainwash them at a very early age.
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How are you tying this in with Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? Clinton did it; even Obama did it. Most of the Democrat movers and shakers in the Senate and House voted for it, some twice, as long as it was a Democrat president.
A good many Turks won't feel safe in their own country as long as Erdogan is the fearless leader.
JFlorio wrote:
Don’t believe you’ve been in many fisticuffs. If you are getting into a confrontation with a thug, bully, extremist, who is never going to compromise you have two choices. Flee or fight. If you flee it never stops. Just saying.
I don't necessarily disagree with you here, I guess more to my point I was trying to make is that this would be a last result at the conclusion that nothing else will work. Which for the terrorists we have come to that conclusion, but all Muslims are not terrorists.
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