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Dec 10, 2017 21:40:15   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
But not the heads of either the DoJ or the FBI.


All rigged and dishonest and against Trump.

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Dec 10, 2017 22:02:18   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
alabuck wrote:
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Fuzzy, I’m going to presume that you have kids. And, I’m going to presume that, on occasion, you’ve had to discipline them. Now, as the “authority figure/celebrity” in that situation, did your kids “let” you discipline them, or, did you just go ahead and do it?

You could say they “let” you dicipline them, simply because they had no other choices. “Letting” someone grope you implies having their permission to do so. From their accusations, they claim they NEVER gramt d him their permission to grope them.

Also, Mr Webster has a word you need to learn, “sarcasm.” You need to learn what it is when you hear it. Even Trump claimed his words were “sarcasm;” and “locker-room talk.”
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U are not very bright,Mr alabuck. U really think u can slick talk me?? Realy? Really?? Reallly??? Go play now child, and hush while grown folks are talking. Child please, that was pathetic.

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Dec 10, 2017 22:28:57   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
wuzblynd wrote:
U are not very bright,Mr alabuck. U really think u can slick talk me?? Realy? Really?? Reallly??? Go play now child, and hush while grown folks are talking. Child please, that was pathetic.


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Now, Fuzzy, why would you want to go to personal insults? Can’t you argue your own position without resorting to insults? You should know that once one resorts to insulting the opponent, they’ve lost all credibility with their argument. It’s obvious, now, that you don’t have anything of substance to backup your position, so you resort to insults.

As to me not being very bright, I can assure you that no matter how dim I appear to be to you, I, still, provide a far higher level of lumination than you can. And, to my being a child, from your actions and attitudes, it’s easy to see you’re no more than a petulant 2-year old, wanting so badly to be taken seriously by the adults in the room. Perhaps it’s you who needs to go out to the sandbox and play with your toys. In fact, I believe I hear your mama calling you, now. You’d better move on. I can see your britches are being loaded as we speak! Run! Fuzzy, Run!

I don’t mind a “battle of wits.” But, I really don’t like it when my opponent is totally unarmed; as you are.

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Dec 11, 2017 01:35:07   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
The word liberal does have a meaning you know! And it is a good fit.
All fields have guilty, but the "if it feels good do it" party has the most. My opinion and I'm not alone.
The word conservative also has a meaning.
alabuck wrote:
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Now we know you’re good at looking for the Dems who’ve been accused of womanizing, can you do a similar search of GOPers who’ve been accused of womanizing, too?

Hint: There are SEVERAL of them. Why haven’t you heard of them? Maybe it’s because the GOP is just as good at letting their own slide, too.

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Dec 11, 2017 10:21:37   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
bilordinary wrote:
The word liberal does have a meaning you know! And it is a good fit.
All fields have guilty, but the "if it feels good do it" party has the most. My opinion and I'm not alone.
The word conservative also has a meaning.


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Yes. You’re right. Those words do have meanings. Try looking them up and using them in their original context instead of bastardizing them to fit your narrative.

My opinion and I'm not alone, either.

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Dec 11, 2017 12:15:03   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
alabuck wrote:
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Archie, I’m sorry if I come across as being “partisian.” That’s not my intent. I do admit that much of my opinion comes from listening to what my wife, and other female members of my family, have experienced while working in their respective occupations.

Several of them have had unwanted sexual advances made toward them. The majority of the unwanted advances were made by their boss(es) or someone higher-up. The rest were from complete strangers in non-work situations. Two of the ladies who married-into the family were victims of familial incest in their nuclear families prior to marrying into my family. In all of these cases, the women didn’t come forward with their histories out of fear of reprisals by the perpetrators. Also, there was the known reaction of being called a liar for even accusing the perpetrators. If you had been called a liar for telling the truth, why would you ever want to continue telling th story?

As to why, all of a sudden, the women feel that with the change of perception about sweeping unwanted sexual advances under the rug, or justifying it by saying, “It’s just men-talk. They don’t mean anything you’re it,” maybe they feel safer being part of a group instead of coming out one at a time.

Also, just because a women shows off her figure, does that give a man permission to act like a Neanderthal and grab her by her hair and drag her off to have his way with her? He may “think” it, but that doesn’t give him permission to “act” on it. I’m sure, you have, just as I have, looked lustfully at a pretty woman and had thoughts of what I’d like to be doing with/to her. But, even though I may have thought it, I’d never try to act on it. It just, “ain’t fitt’n” to do such things. Those who try to force themselves on women because they think the women ”are asking for it”. simply don’t have the mental and emotional maturity to interact with the opponent sex.

Put yourself in their place. How would you like it if day in and day out you had to put up with constant cat-calls, unrequested sexual suggestions, intentional rubs against your body, or even outright offers of sexual favors that, of preformed, would help you advance in your career? These are some of the things the women in my extended family have had to endure in order to stay employed. Fortunately, none of them have had to perform any sexual acts, but a couple of them say the day is coming when they’ll be asked to do so. They can easily see the pattern of behavior as it unfolds. However, when the day comes, they’ll have a recording of it and the guy(s) involved will be outed and they and the company will be sued.

How would you like it if you’re on the beach with your 16 year old granddaughter who just happens to have a “killer body” and some 30-something guy with a wddding ring on, walks up to her and begins to complement her on her looks? Then, he asks her if she’d like to go back to his hotel room with him so they “... could get to know each other better?”

Well, that happened to me and my 16 year old granddaughter this past summer, in Gulf Shores, AL. I go up and gave that pervert a good cussing and threatened too shoot his sorry a$$ should he ever approach my granddaughter again. At first, he tried to call me in it. Then, I showed him the 9-mil I was carrying. He changed his tune very quickly and left us alone the rest of the trip.

The whole episode tore my granddaughter up. She can’t understand why older men want to hit on her just because of how she fills-out a bikini. She knows she has been blessed with a “nice figure” but so do a lot of guys and she doesn’t go around trying to get into their pants or even complement their abs or “packages.”

As to women using their sexuality to get what they want, I believe you’ve been reading too many XXX-rated stories. You should realize that 99.99% of that stuff is pure fantasy. And, the remaining .01% is only half-true. According to research done in the early 2000’s, less than .01% of women claim to WILLINGLY use their sexual favors as a tool for advancement. The vast majority of those women who did so were in the medical equipment and pharmaceutical sales, automobile sales, and real estate sales; all highly competitive sales industries where “any and all options are to be used to make a sale.”

Honestly, Arch, I think you’re trying to make the “exception” into the “rule,” here.
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I don't read xxx stories alabuck. I just go by my experiences, and what I've seen, and heard from wimmen I know.
My wife, and my daughter KNOW that they don't have to be touched, or harassed in any way, and they won't tolerate it.

Once, the first summer after my wife, and I married (my second) we were at a barbecue for the employees of the company she worked for. I was over playing horseshoes when I/we heard her very distinctive, raised voice saying: "You touch me again, and I'll kick you in your motherf***ing head!"
Well, I headed over there, and went for the guys throat when she intervened, and shamed him off the property. I really think he was more afraid of her than me. And I was going to wear him out!

Maybe I'm biased, because I respect women, always have, and have seen some who think their cleavage can get them through life. Then when it doesn't, they've been taken advantage of.

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Dec 11, 2017 19:33:02   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
archie bunker wrote:
I don't read xxx stories alabuck. I just go by my experiences, and what I've seen, and heard from wimmen I know.
My wife, and my daughter KNOW that they don't have to be touched, or harassed in any way, and they won't tolerate it.

Once, the first summer after my wife, and I married (my second) we were at a barbecue for the employees of the company she worked for. I was over playing horseshoes when I/we heard her very distinctive, raised voice saying: "You touch me again, and I'll kick you in your motherf***ing head!"
Well, I headed over there, and went for the guys throat when she intervened, and shamed him off the property. I really think he was more afraid of her than me. And I was going to wear him out!

Maybe I'm biased, because I respect women, always have, and have seen some who think their cleavage can get them through life. Then when it doesn't, they've been taken advantage of.
I don't read xxx stories alabuck. I just go by my ... (show quote)

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Arch, I hope you realize I was teasing you about the XXX stories. Besides, its none of my business whether or not you read those stories.

While we’re telling stories about our wives, while not being related to sexual assaults, mine experienced sexual discrimination for a few years while working with a young man who thought,“... she was taking a job away from a man.” She has a mechanical engineering degree and we were both working in the same electric utility company in Western Kentucky. We were paired-up into teams of 2 for safety reasons. She and I were a team. The other guy wanted me to be teamed with him, but, given his bass-awards attitude about women, I refused. As you can imagine, dealing with high voltage electricity is dangerous under any circumstances. But, when one has to physically get into the electrical cabinets and hook-up electrical test equipment, the danger level peaks because one is clamping test-leads onto buss-bars that are carrying up to 4,160 volts of electricity and can kill you in an instant, after it totally fries your insides, first.

This guy had made it known to all that he didn’t like working in the same group with my partner because he felt that a woman’s place was at home. Once, he told me that, “... a woman COULD be a teacher, nurse, hair stylist, waitress, cook, or any number of jobs that didn’t require much education to do. But, being a professional, like an engineer or doctor, should be left to men to do so they can provide for their families.” In fact, his wife was a hair stylist who operated out of their house.

Well, once I relayed his comment to my partner, it flew all over her (we weren’t married to each other at the time). In addition, we found out this guy was going around to all of the customers our group dealt with and was telling them that she wasn’t a good engineer; that if she remained in this job, that she really needed to be an electrical engineer, like he was. Additionally, he requested that they ask for him to do any work they required from our group, instead of her. Another little bit of history from those days was that we found out he was the originator of the rumor that she and I were having an affair; of which we were NOT. No matter how much or how often we denied it, he kept repeating it; not only around the office but to the customers, too.

Once we took all of our proof of his bull-sh*t to our supervisor and he verified that it was who we said it was that was instigating the lies, he “helped” the guy get transferred out of our group and into a different group that didn’t deal with customers. Our supervisor, also, went with us to all of the customers who were told the rumors and vouched for her as an engineer and that the rumors about our affair were just a vicious rumor started by a jealous employee. Also, to make her point to him that his behaviors wasn’t acceptable, my partner threatened to follow him to Walmart and once he exited his car, she would begin to, “... whip your lying and scrawny ass all over the entire mother-f**king parking lot. Then, you can go home to your wall-flower of a wife and explain to her how it happened that you got your sh*t-f**king a$$ beaten-up by a girl!”

Another facet to this is that our respective spouses at the time were told about the rumor of our alleged infidelities. Her husband believed us. My (then) wife believed the rumors. In part because the person telling her about the rumors was her best friend, who just happened to live next door to the guy initiating the rumors. To make matters worse, my then-wife started a “revenge-affair” with a single man we knew from church. That lasted about a 9 months as he had a bad heart and died on the operating table at Vanderbilt Hospital. Later on, she met and married a local lawyer.

A year after my divorce, my partner and her husband split over his refusal to get a job instead of mooching off of her and bouncing bad chances all over town. She moved to Alabama after landing a job with a different group, same agency, doing the same kind of work. 6 months after that, I was told my position was being eliminated and I needed to either find another job within the agency or look outside. I managed to get a position working at a fossil-power plant in Alabama, not too far from where my ex-partner lived and worked. After I moved to Alabama and we decided to date. After about 9 months, we bought a house together, got married and moved in. All of that happened about 23 years ago. We’ve never been happier.

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Dec 11, 2017 22:23:59   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
alabuck wrote:
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Now, Fuzzy, why would you want to go to personal insults? Can’t you argue your own position without resorting to insults? You should know that once one resorts to insulting the opponent, they’ve lost all credibility with their argument. It’s obvious, now, that you don’t have anything of substance to backup your position, so you resort to insults.

As to me not being very bright, I can assure you that no matter how dim I appear to be to you, I, still, provide a far higher level of lumination than you can. And, to my being a child, from your actions and attitudes, it’s easy to see you’re no more than a petulant 2-year old, wanting so badly to be taken seriously by the adults in the room. Perhaps it’s you who needs to go out to the sandbox and play with your toys. In fact, I believe I hear your mama calling you, now. You’d better move on. I can see your britches are being loaded as we speak! Run! Fuzzy, Run!

I don’t mind a “battle of wits.” But, I really don’t like it when my opponent is totally unarmed; as you are.
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I heard the stuff u r using in the 70s. Time to take off the bellbottoms,and the stacks,chunk those v necks. Get some new stuff and then try me. Cool little thing called Google here in 2017. Type in insults, and hit the little magnifying glass and wala!!!!

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Dec 12, 2017 09:37:28   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
alabuck wrote:
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And, just how would you know about being in any gutters? Any 1st-hand experience?

These “liberal deviates” are discussing a serious issue about an alleged child sexual predator who’s running for the US Senate. I suppose to you that’s something to laugh about and belittle. If so, you’re no better than the child molester is. In fact, you’re “aiding and abetting” his illegal actions. That could make you “accessories after the fact.” Maybe, we should include you and hemiman in the Congressional investigation, should it come about.

Personally, I’d be saying, “I’ll take ‘water-boarding’ for $100, Alex,” before I’d sit before a Congressional hearing in defense of Moore’s case.
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Presuming a man guilty before any trial has been set there alabuck?
Shady accusations and impeccable timing right before an election where the Dems are a bit more than desperate to get a seat from Alabama seems like a bit of a stretch from the same tactics "they" use time and time again.

Lets put things in perspective here.

Why Good Men Do Nothing

Tuesday, December 12, 2017

Edmund Burke is credited with the quote: "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Certainly, we are told by the Apostle Paul in Romans 12:21, "Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." In this case, the Greek word used for "overcome" can be interchanged with "conquer." We are not to be conquered by evil, but to conquer evil with good. So Burke's quote is quite right in the sense that if good men do nothing in the face of evil, evil with triumph. This is one of the problems we have with our political system. Year after year we elect the same kinds of people and we expect them to do what they say. We are mostly disappointed because of a lack of quality and character.

People have often asked about why we have such questionable candidates running for office. The choices, they say, are subpar. The short answer is that we need to recruit better candidates. That recruitment process starts at the local level, meaning that we should be involved at the precinct or county committee level and exercise our opinions on candidate selection. But even at that foundational level of all politics, there is built into the system these days a tremendous flaw. Those who run for office may start out believing they can make a difference, but the longer they are in politics and the higher the office they seek, the less in touch they are with their original values. It really is a true formula.

Over my years in politics, I saw really good people with great ideals slowly erode into minions for the party machine or other outside influences that "redirected" their thoughts and stances on issues they once held dear as non-negotiable. Moreover, the very essence of politics in today's environment would strongly discourage or even prevent a good person from running for office. Who in their right mind would subject their family, friends, business associates, or even themselves to a process that seeks as a price of entry the destruction of reputations built over a lifetime? Everything that was done by a candidate during his life is open to the twisting of half-truths or lies or worse by the opposition.

In many cases-and I know this is true because I am a veteran of political campaigns-a lie is spoken on purpose to get a willing reporter to write a story. Once the story is written, it has legs that can be run through the public, then used again in negative campaign ads, and can be recycled in debates, and so on. Often these lies are proven to be lies long after the election-long after the reputation is ruined, marriages are left on questionable ground, jobs are lost. This is what our political system has become. No good person would even enter the building politic knowing this risk. Hence, evil advances. It takes a special kind of person to put all at risk to overcome this evil. They are hard to find.

Have a Blessed and Powerful Day!

Bill Wilson - The Daily Jot

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