Loki Loc: Georgia

We can't afford to take that chance. I have never seen so many tender toes. Mine are getting that way, too.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Well, at least you weathered the storm engendered by widdle kemmie poo, with nothing more serious than a tender feeling for his injured/damaged psyche.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well AmericanTexan, I would appreciate your gestures and see them for exactly that so I say no sir you would not be guilty of anything other than kindness....

I understand the confusion tho.. I have seen men open a door for a women only to be told she can open it herself or make some expression on her face of contempt..etc..

I will tell you I appreciate a man opening the door for me and allowing me to enter first.. I would do and have done the same for a man just out of respect shown to he as well....I’m not offended I appreciate it and always make eye contact saying Thank You...

Men are confused because women, usually the ones lacking self esteem or self confidence find the need to be rude as a defense in challenging that man.. I personally believe some women, those as described here have pushed the limit on it too...Some things are just the man’s responsibility as some things are the women's and mutual respect is key to how we treat others..

Certain aspects of a gentlemen need not be forgone because of some woman that wants to prove herself..

I appreciate a man that pulls my chair out, allows me to enter first, or opens my car door for me etc and I ask you to remain just as you are...

Don’t walk around on egg shells because you are a man of respect and honor.. If a woman is offended by it then so be it, that’s her problem, not yours!!!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Loki, woooowwww, your now a smurf are you?? I love it!! And completely understand!!!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Do you consider his gestures to be sexually offensive?? If so, how??

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Yes, those self esteem issues are a tremendous burden for some people..

Insecurity of ones self leaves them so very unhappy in life.. Aren’t you glad you don’t have those issues and you are envied by some because they would like to have your level of confidence and surety of things..!

What a shame for them..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

A blue tofu, fu man chew??? Lolol sorry couldn’t resist...

Singularity

No offense taken! In fact, I'd like to invite you to become an honorary member of the Red Hat Society, in honor of your new avatar!

If you feel like it today!

Space-Alien-23

In my experience, basic good manners, being helpful, being nice, smiling instead of frowning, etc has never been mistaken by any woman to be sexual harassment.

To help you out even more: A decent man does not touch a woman's breasts, squeeze her butt and private parts, kiss her against her will, or say things like "Do you know who I am?"

Dating is not a "free for all attack" of one gorilla to drag home the female gorilla by her hair. Now do you get it?

Since there are so many "confused men" on this web-site, I'll try and explain some more subtleties of dating: For example, if you invite a woman out for dinner or lunch, and you accidentally touch her hand across the table, you can figure out by her reaction whether she potentially is interested in getting to know you better. If her hand moves away from your touch, that is a sign that she is not ready for any further touching, hugging, kissing, etc. This is why, in some more gentle times, a man would "first ask for the hand of the woman he is interested in". (For the complete gorillas who can read: This does not mean that you chop off the hand and run away with it.)

I really have to wonder whether all the "confused men" here have not ever gotten advice from their mothers about what is good manners, and what is not. (Note: Advice from the father "generally" does not count, because the father is "generally" more like the clumsy gorilla. I can say that because I am a father.)

Overall, if you can't figure this out, I'd recommend that you move to a country where prostitution is legal and taxed,
because then at least you know up front that you, as a gorilla, will likely have "to pay for it", because your lack of manners scare away every female in sight. Somehow it seems that this would be more honorable than attacking women who are totally not into you, and then having to either go to jail, if you are poor, or having to pay hush-money, if you are rich. Learning a bit of self-control would be nice too, but don't ask certain evangelical pastors, or catholic priests, or muslim high priests about that, because they haven't learned that yet either.

With humans, everything is FUBAR so often, it's almost hopeless.

Loki Loc: Georgia

While I appreciate your kind offer; I must confess that I self-identify as the incorrect gender for this fine group. I wouldn't want to offend anyone with gender issues. Oh, did I say issues? I meant confusion, (unless, of course, someone finds this offensive, in which case I am sorry.) Therefore, I must, at least unless my own self-identification changes, decline your offer with great regret and trepidation.

Betta

I have to be careful myself. Have this terrible habit, taught to me by my wonderful grandmother, of when making eye contact with someone to smile. It's heartwarming for someone to smile, nod and keep stepping.. Don't even have to know each other. Can be a complete stranger. When a baby looks up at me and smiles I feel blessed.

If I was a man I'd wear a body cam to protect myself. A man just smiling at a woman today can land him in jail. I wouldn't take any chances. Look straight ahead and don't make eye contact. And we even have to be careful about helping people. Dang shame.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

[que=AmericanotTexan]Would I be guilty of telling a woman she looks nice today and like her new hair style.[/quote]
No.

[que=AmericanotTexan]Would I be guilty of opening a door for a woman?[/quote]
No.

[que=AmericanotTexan]Would I be guilty of completing a woman in anyway.[/quote]
Not sure what that means.

[que=AmericanotTexan]Would I be guilty of helping a woman with her grocery cart while struggling with her kids.[/quote]
If you know her, then No. If you don't know her, then be careful. She might accuse you of all kinds of nefarious intent from tampering with her purse to attempting to kidnap her kid. Remember, guilty until proven otherwise in this world....

[que=AmericanotTexan]Would I be guilty of putting my arm around a woman while taking a photo?[/quote]
Now you're on shaky ground, because you 'touched' her. If she's a well balanced, normal woman, no problem. You all smile and get a nice photo. If she's one of those psycho feminist types, you're headed for prison for sexual assault. Seriously, they're that hateful and if the cop who responds to the call is of a similar persuasion; you, my friend, are toast. At minimum you spend a night in the local lock-up, get out the next day, show up for court and the 'case' gets dismissed. The woman who accused you is hardly inconvenienced, same for the cop who arrested you. You, on the other hand, had all kinds of disruptions, and next time a cop asks if you've ever been arrested, what is your reply? You have an arrest record. You're a criminal before you even open your mouth. At worst, you get a judge who's just as bad as your accuser and the cop who arrested you. Use your imagination.


[que=AmericanotTexan]I was is a grocery store and waiting in line at the deli. She was about ten feet away shopping cart making her selections. Right in front of me was her handbag opened her wallet was just laying there. I suggested she might want to move her cart closer had I be a thief could have ripped her off in seconds. Was this sexual harassment or kindness?[/quote]
Neither. It was crime prevention. Have a care though, you spoke to her. If she's one of those psychos...


[que=AmericanotTexan]I used to be very outgoing and gregarious to all. Now I just walk around on eggshells afraid of offending someone.[/quote]
And that's how they win. By shutting you down. By making you second-guess every thought until you're all tied up in knots and totally unable to function properly. We live in a society where good manners are a sign of weakness and any kind of physical contact is assault. The only remedy I can imagine is to continue to be as we are and roll with the punches. I doubt I could stomach the alternative.

brsanidadjr

Agree, everything you do may be misconstrued ❗

debeda

So silly, all these " new rules". Common courtesy never goes out of fashion. I appreciate a gentleman being a gentleman. I also will open doors for those that need help, like a mom struggling with kids and groceries, an older person with a cane or a walker and the UPS guy. I'm also incredibly frustrated with women who want to go to the top echelons in business who cry that someone "harassed" them. If you're not capable of being a strong person you DON'T BELONG IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY. I'm not talking about physical attacks, men are mostly physically stronger. I'm talking about innuendos or crude suggestions. Buck up, shut them down and move on. As far as being a gentle person, continue to do so and be who you are. Some may be so far into their victimhood myth that they don't appreciate civilized behavior but most will. As a woman I appreciate courtesy and, like Linda, always say thank you and smile when anyone does something nice.

brsanidadjr

Kindness offered me, I pass it along male or female! Thank you for reminding me to move on and be kind and courteous!!!