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Nov 24, 2017 05:33:42   #
samtheyank
 
thinksense wrote:
I don't know how you would get the thought that I expected no consequences as a result of any action, stupid or not. I don't see where you get that out of anything I wrote.

I simply hold that free will is free will and when you bring a mythical figure into it claiming that that figure forbad what you did, that you have no foot to stand on claiming that free will exists in that situation. And I think you know that very well and are just changing the direction of the discussion so that you can avoid the truth of the matter. This sort of digression is typical of religionists.

Free to act or think, means FREE to act or think.
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Man has only one type of nature. He sins against God and he is totally depraved. He can’t choose anything thing that is good until he has Christ as his personal Lord & Saviour. Anything apart from Christ is like filthy rags. God can’t even look at it. He would consume it like a fire. Since Christ is our Mediator, he can take it and make it presentable to the Father as an acceptable offering. All this is Biblical.

You can’t reason with people who don’t know The Lord. The only thing I can say at this point is that I respect your position. I just don’t agree with it. You stuck with the exchage of ideas and you did not flick me off as some nut in left field. For that, I thank you.

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Nov 24, 2017 05:35:54   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
bobebgtime wrote:
Loves us? Guess that depends on your idea of what love is. It appears to me that God has a general dislike for the human being. Given some of the information found in the bible; Past floods, earthquakes, hurricanes,killing Egyptian babies, everything He did to Job and let’s not forget the promise of hail of brimstone. He doesn't seem that gifted to create people He actually likes, let alone loves. 

So in spite of being all-powerful and inclined to smite anyone who rubs Him wrong? He seems to be somewhat insecure. The bible states in part, …he is a jealous God. Indeed no doubt, He is jealous of anyone or anything which is given any respect or praise. So, He wants more than anything to be loved. He craves our love, but in His hard core way, He goes about getting it in all the wrong ways. For instance, He tells everyone that if they don't love Him, He will have them tortured for eternity in Hell. Well, any deity with a clue would know this would be a counterproductive approach to getting affection.  
 
A True Christian™ will entertain you with talk of love and spirituality, but the only thing a True Christian™ wants is to get into Heaven. After all, regardless of whatever else we say, it is all about us. A True Christian™ also wishes to do pretty much what he/she wishes before claiming his/her eternal door prize. Fortunately for us, we can eat our cake and have it frosted in the afterlife. You see, the Lord doesn't really care what type of person you are. All He notices is whether you fawn over Him enough. You see, to Him, it's all about Him. Yes, some may say He is petty and insecure placing such a premium on adoration won by dangling mansions in Glory in front of avaricious humans, but I think He is rather forthcoming about the whole thing. He told us He is a very jealous god, so at least He is trying to work through His issues. (He clearly went through some anger-management between Testaments.) In any event, possibly he needs to take the advanced anger-management course.
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This isn't heaven.

You aren't qualified to speak for "True Christians", because you're ignorant of who we are and what we want.

Speak for yourself, and perhaps you will be less stupid.

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Nov 24, 2017 05:48:05   #
samtheyank
 
Super Dave wrote:
This isn't heaven.

You aren't qualified to speak for "True Christians", because you're ignorant of who we are and what we want.

Speak for yourself, and perhaps you will be less stupid.


I am far from being stupid. I am not ignorant in terms of what I say. You, sir, don’t even know what a Christian is. I have stated many Biblical terms and themes in this discussion. They fly right over your head. You need to talk to a Pastor and study the Bible more throughly. Your version of Christianity, or your definition of what a Christian is, is made in your image and a lot of those false doctrines you have either studied or heard others say sometime in your life. I encourage you to get a Bible and start with Romans in the N. T. I have tried to reach you, but it is to no avail. I think if you were to do this and as you say, “You would be less stupid and ignorant all at the same time!”

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Nov 24, 2017 05:55:32   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
samtheyank wrote:
I am far from being stupid. I am not ignorant in terms of what I say. You, sir, don’t even know what a Christian is. I have stated many Biblical terms and themes in this discussion. They fly right over your head. You need to talk to a Pastor and study the Bible more throughly. Your version of Christianity, or your definition of what a Christian is, is made in your image and a lot of those false doctrines you have either studied or heard others say sometime in your life. I encourage you to get a Bible and start with Romans in the N. T. I have tried to reach you, but it is to no avail. I think if you were to do this and as you say, “You would be less stupid and ignorant all at the same time!”
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Perhaps you should spend more time speaking about something you understand. Your arrogance is no substitute for knowledge and faith.

If you read the post I replied to perhaps you will understand it.

I understand Christianity well enough. Perhaps you should take your own advice.

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Nov 24, 2017 06:15:43   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Super Dave wrote:
I'll explain it simply. Try to follow without your AntiGod bigotry clouding your vision.

Your problem may be that you're confusing God with Government in 1/2 of your argument. If that's not it, I don't know what's infected your thought process on this matter.

But let's make it simple.

1. You are free to think anything you want. Proof of that is your posts on this subject. Ignorant and incorrect as they are, nobody stopped you from thinking them, did they? No, they didn't. God didn't, and Government didn't.

2. God does forbids many acts, but He doesn't stop anyone from committing these acts. Government does.

Government locks people up to stop them from stealing or attacking someone. God doesn't, and nobody thinks He does.
Government forces pedophiles to stay away from children. God doesn't, and nobody thinks He does.
Government freezes assets to stop people from moving them offshore. God doesn't, and nobody thinks He does.

I could go on... God gives you Free Will, government does not.
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When did God give you her rules little dave?

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Nov 24, 2017 06:23:42   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
thinksense wrote:
Super, Now you bring Govt. into it. Where do you see me mention it during this discussion?

Oh, you don't. Well then why bring it up. Especially in a way that would seem to imply that that is part of my thoughts on the subject.

I just find it hillarious that people are so hypnotised/ brainwashed on this mythical stuff that they can't keep the silly stuff out of their posts.

I have no objection to you believeing that the moon is made of cream cheese, or that an invisible man, who lives in the sky, spends all his time watching you. And he has a set of rules that some guy wrote in a book, and if you violate any of these rules you will, when you die, be sent to a very uncomfortable place where you will be tortured and burn and suffer for all eternity.

Oh and He LOVES you......


And he can't handle money, he always needs money.

(And yeah, I didn't make that up. You probably know who did.)
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Nov 24, 2017 06:29:36   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
When did God give you her rules little dave?
The Bible has been around for some time now.

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Nov 24, 2017 06:41:01   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Super Dave wrote:
The Bible has been around for some time now.


So~~~~~~

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Nov 24, 2017 06:49:41   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
So~~~~~~


If you want to properly stalk me you need to do a little research on your own.

Lazy stalkers bore me.

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