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Oct 24, 2017 23:47:15   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
Nickolai wrote:
How did the CIA do that. I knew that the CIA had infiltrated Castro's band of fighters but Castro gained power because the people joined his army raided Bautista's military outposts to get weapons and when Castro came down from the mountains with his army Bautista's army threw down their weapons and fled I don't see where the CIA came into the picture here


Military industrial complex is complicit.

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Oct 25, 2017 00:50:44   #
MtnMamma
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sounds damn reasonable to me. There will always be someone contesting any evidence or theory.


I like facts. Trusting my government for them may appear naive. The alternative is too hurtful to contemplate. Truth at any cost may appear right and just. It is my natural inclination. Screw the consequences. We will eventually overcome. Or maybe not. For good or evil, certain things must remain secret. Trusting my government, again, to keep such secrets, may seem naive. However, not to trust them sacrifices all fealty.

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Oct 25, 2017 01:13:44   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
MtnMamma wrote:
I like facts. Trusting my government for them may appear naive. The alternative is too hurtful to contemplate. Truth at any cost may appear right and just. It is my natural inclination. Screw the consequences. We will eventually overcome. Or maybe not. For good or evil, certain things must remain secret. Trusting my government, again, to keep such secrets, may seem naive. However, not to trust them sacrifices all fealty.

The only secrets the gov keeps are the ones that cost people their lives, Sorry

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Oct 25, 2017 08:02:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
MtnMamma wrote:
I like facts. Trusting my government for them may appear naive. The alternative is too hurtful to contemplate. Truth at any cost may appear right and just. It is my natural inclination. Screw the consequences. We will eventually overcome. Or maybe not. For good or evil, certain things must remain secret. Trusting my government, again, to keep such secrets, may seem naive. However, not to trust them sacrifices all fealty.


Who here thinks they know who the CIA/Deep State works for?
How many assassinations, and for who?
Black Ops? What are Black Ops?

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Oct 25, 2017 08:20:19   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
Who's nukes for you afraid of? Anybody's in particular or just nukes in general?


When you are 7 years old it doesn't matter...

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Oct 25, 2017 11:18:25   #
hejohnson43 Loc: Portal, Ga.
 
Here is a Quote that I like and think is 100% true. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who did not."

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Oct 25, 2017 12:39:20   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Peter, The JFK files were due to be opened up at this time. The Donald gave himself credit he didn't deserve. Thats usual for a guy with narcissistic personality disorder and a pathological LIAR to boot.

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Oct 25, 2017 13:20:31   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Peter, The JFK files were due to be opened up at this time. The Donald gave himself credit he didn't deserve. Thats usual for a guy with narcissistic personality disorder and a pathological LIAR to boot.


Can you explain to me why that secret had to be kept all this time? I do remember that day and the ensuing ones where I always had to wonder about it and why the man went about 180 degrees from where he should have when he got hit from behind. However, I was stupid enough to accept their story although I thought it was pure government crap.

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Oct 25, 2017 17:36:53   #
Nickolai
 
oldroy wrote:
Can you explain to me why that secret had to be kept all this time? I do remember that day and the ensuing ones where I always had to wonder about it and why the man went about 180 degrees from where he should have when he got hit from behind. However, I was stupid enough to accept their story although I thought it was pure government crap.





We will be seeing soon why this information was held back all this time

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Oct 25, 2017 17:53:22   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Nickolai wrote:
We will be seeing soon why this information was held back all this time


Why would you believe that? Thousands of different people giving more thousands of pages of testimony, much of which will be mutually exclusive that will be unable to be affirmed or dis-affirmed because the parties have died. Then each fan of yet another assassination theory will find a place to hang their hats.

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Oct 25, 2017 18:07:34   #
hejohnson43 Loc: Portal, Ga.
 
They figured that all the percipients would have died by now, but Bush Sr. is still alive. They also figured after all this time no one would really give a shit what happened.

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Oct 25, 2017 18:12:10   #
Nickolai
 
hejohnson43 wrote:
They figured that all the percipients would have died by now, but Bush Sr. is still alive. They also figured after all this time no one would really give a shit what happened.





They hadn't counted on HW Bush living so long

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Oct 25, 2017 20:53:40   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Mr Shako wrote:
Averill Harriman was Dulles' grandfather? I don't believe that's correct. Harriman, a Dem, was abut the same age as Dulles. Where did you get this info?


Your question is legit. An old biography I read about Dulles' sister, Eleanor Dulles, mentioned Harriman as their father's relative, of whom I assumed was a grandparent, has turned out to be a cousin several generations back through the Marvin sisters:

Averell Harriman born November 15, 1891
Allen Dulles born April 7, 1893

https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=42638+allen+dulles&kin=34876+averell+harriman&via=15769+matthew+marvin
Family Relationship of Allen Dulles, 5th Director of the C.I.A.

It's interesting that the Dulles family went to work for Eisenhower after the war when they came from a family of dedicated Democrats.

These old family clans dot the landscape of New England and up-state New York, like the Irish Mafia of Boston.

Today, Mike Savage, a conservative Jewish talkshow host, was raging against Harvey Weinstein, asking the public today if his listeners could offer examples of other religions having defamatory leftwing dingbats of disgrace dragging them down. I thought for a moment, thinking of the Dulles gang, like the Rockefellers, who were Episcopalians and original allies of FDR and the Democrat Party. Today, we have the Irish Mafia, the Italian Mafia, the Jewish Mafia and the Muslim Brotherhood all united in organized crime, all championing the socialist/communist party as state sanctioned pickpockets. As they say, there is no honor amongst thieves.

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Oct 25, 2017 21:28:46   #
Nickolai
 
peter11937 wrote:
Down hill shot, car going away at about 15 mph , directly away, time of fight for the bullet, less than 1/10th of a second, using a military bolt action , magazine fed action, , easy to operate. In my best years, I could have done it at twice the distance. The failure in this whole incident was the Secret Service's failure to secure that building. Something they should have done without question.






Oswald was a patsy and he said so on camera He said he didn't kill anybody and Ruby didn't kill Oswald for revenge he killed him to shut him up then the case could be closed as a lone gunman who no longer existed end of any investigation,, case closed but Oswald had no gunpowder residue on his face or hands just nitrates on his hands from handling books. Unidentified finger prints on the boxes on the sixth floor of the SBDB were later identified as those of Malcom Wallace a convicted killer with ties to LBJ

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Oct 25, 2017 22:36:17   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Nickolai wrote:
They hadn't counted on HW Bush living so long


No, Nickolai, not Bush. It's a cover-up of General Adolf Heusinger, whom President Eisenhower appointed to command NATO in 1960. Heusinger was Director of the 3rd Reich's Ordinance during WWII, (4th in command under Hitler) and a secret ally with the Soviet Union in joint munitions testing and manufacturing. Read chapter 11 in: https://www.amazon.com/Lyme-Disease-Elbrus-Rachel-Verdon/dp/1934956430
Jack Kennedy was on to this triple agent. Heusinger resigned NATO several months after JFK was assassinated.

NATO and the CIA are the problem.

Jim Marrs & St. John Hunt - E. Howard Hunt Deathbed Confession JFK Assassination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z11k1rlVokQ

Saint John Hunt - E. Howard Hunt, Watergate & The JFK Assassination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLFOLOtkGs

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