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Oct 24, 2017 19:49:03   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
Nickolai
Obama's law degree is in Constitutional law so he had to read many books to get his degree Trump doesn't hve the patience to read a book, His professor at Warton says he was the biggest ass hole he ever saw. Leon Skousen was a John Bircher. William F Buckley the father of the modern conservative movement posited that the Birchers were too radical

Randy 131
We don't know anything about Obama's law degree, or what kind of student he was, or what he acomplished in the three colleges that he attended, because the first thing Obama did immediately after his inaguration was to sign an EO that was previously written before his inaguration that locked-up his records where no American citizen could learn what he did or didn't do in college, especially if he got a foreign student scholarship to attend any of those colleges. But what can determine how good of a constitutional graduate that you claim him to be is his record on constitutional matters, especially as the POTUS.Obama is the first President in US history to have lost at least nine SCOTUS cases, and another record is that they were all unanimous decision loses, the most unanimous eecision loses than any President in US history, with at least two of the justices being appointed by Obama, which there were even more SCOTUS loses, but I remember these nine because they were all unanimous decisions against what Obama was claiming. Then there is also a federal court ruling declaring that the money that Obama was paying insurance companies for Obamacare assistance was also unconstitutional, because the US Congress must appropiated the money to do so, which Obama was having his DOJ appeal the decision while he kept making the payments, but President Trump's DOJ has stopped the appeal, saying that they know the federal court ruling to be correct, all money spent must be appropiated by the US Congress, which is a mandate of the US Constitution, and would have increased that unanimous losing decision record to ten.


Nickolai
This is a completely false assertion. All Trump has done is write EO's in an obvious attempt to erase Obamas legacy completely

Randy131
It was all true. President Trump's EOs cannot negate legislated law, but only other EOs, and what they have negated was not Obama's terrible legacy, which is recorded in all his terrible economic statistics and facts for the last 8 years, but instead most of Obama's economic killing EOs, that since President Trump has done this has caused the creation of 1.8 million jobs to put the American people back to work. It has also caused the unemployment rate to decline to a 26 year low, and also the number of new unemployment sign-ups to decline to a 43 year low, and all this during the natural disasters of three hurricanes and many wildfires out west, which historically hurts job creation and job retention.


Nickolai
Trump demagoged by saying the things that ordinary Americans wanted to hear presenting him self as a man of the common people It was the biggest con job in history and the same message Adolph delivered to the German people. He poses exactly as Benito Mussolini did I recognized it immediately all three men are great conn men

Randy 131
President Trump demagoged nothing, he simply told the people what he could and would do for them if they elected him President. He never claimed to be one of them, he always told them that he was a multi-billionaire, how many Americans do you think are that, for sure none of the people who attended all his campaign rallies. As far as "Con Jobs" are concerned, that is promising the people much, but delivering them nothing, which is a perfect description of what Obama did, not President Trump. So far President Trump has fulfilled many of his promises, but he still has 3 years and 9 months to fulfill them all, which after the 2018 national midterm elections, the Republicans will gain many seats in the US Congress because of President Trump, and he won't need the RINOs to get his policies and agendas fulfilled, causing the economy to impriove even more, and setting President Trump up for re-election in 2020, because he will have fulfilled all his promises in his first 4 years, unlike Obama who didn't fulfill much of any of his promises in his entire 8 years as President. Just one example of Obama's failed promises is what he promised about the ACA (Obamacare), that everyone who liked their healthcare plan, could keep that healthcare plan, everyone that liked and trusted their doctors, could keep their doctors, Obamacare would reduce their healthcare costs by at least $2,500.00 a year for a family of four, that Obamacare would be "Funded Neutral", which were all lies, as professor Jonathon Gruber, one of the architects of Obamacare, said that Obama and all the Democrats had to lie to the dumb American people in order to get Obamacare passed. I could write a book on all of Obama's 'Con Jobs", or broken promises if that is what you prefer them to be called. President Trump is nothing like Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini for they put themselves first and forced on their people what they didn't want and what hurt their people, which is another perfect description of Obama. President Trump has put the USA and the American people first, while Obama put foreigners and Islam first, as all his actions have proven.


Nickolai
President Obama was bashed by the right on hate radio and Fox News 24/7 and he responded with humor and good spirits. It is common knowledge that the way to get to Trump is to be little him show his ignorance and incompetence he cannot keep from lashing out because he continues to have rallies because he desperately needs the adoring crowds showering him with love and adoration

Randi131
Obama never referred to anything with humor and good spirits, except all the Islamic holidays that he held special parties and adoration worship for celebration in the White House. Obama attacked many times, on national media, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingram, Michael Savage, and Sean Hanity, as well as a few others. Obama also got on national TV and told all the American people to quit watching FOX News, because he claimed that they were not a real news organization, as all of these people and this news network did not attack Obama personally, but attacked his terrible failing policies and agendas instead, that the American people hated and didn't want.

What you and most all liberals, progressives, and Democrats want the American people to believe is that attacks on liberal policies and agendas are personal attacks, while personal attacks on conservatives, Christians, and Republicans are policy and agenda attacks, proving your hypocrisy. President Trump only attacks those who attack him first, but he is accomplishing a lot more than Obama ever did for you to be calling him incompetent, which Obama's own economic statistical facts actually prove that about Obama is the one that was incompetent. If President trump is ignorant, I and the rest of the American people would much rather have someone who is ignarant, and accomplishes what he promised them, that gives them what they want and need, instead of someone who acts as if he was smart, but fails at most everything he tries to do, and forces on the American people what they don't want or need.


Nickolai
What people wanted was change from the trickle down forces that were decimating the middle class and brought on the financial crises of 2007-8 when millions lost their homes pensions savings ect. It never happened because Obama faced more than 200 filibusters in his first term alone. It was In his second term that he had to resort to the EO to get any thing done

Randy131
The middleclass has been decimated more than at anytime in US history during the 8 years of the Obama Presidency, as the middleclass grew greatly during President Reagans 8 years where he instituted trickle down economics that brought us out of Jimmy Carters terrible recession that caused the liberal biased mainstream media to invent the word "STAGFLATION" to define Carter's economy, and invented the "Double Digit Triple Misery Index" to describe what was wrong with Carter's economy of double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, and double digit interest rates, and President Reagan started the longest growth period, of his 8 years plus the 4 years of George W. Bush's Presidency, in US history to that date. In Obama's first two years as President, Obama had something that no other President in modern times have ever had, maybe at no time in US hisotry, and that was his party's majority control of the US House by 40 plus seats, and a filibuster proof majority in the US Senate, which he could have passed anything that he wanted, and wasted all his time on the failed Obamacare fiasco, bribing his own Democrats to get their support for it. Many of Obama's policies were voted down unanimously in the US Senate, and even a few times in the US House, proving what kind of great leader that he actually was.


Nickloai
Obama naively tried to bring Republicans and democrats together but McConnell said from the start their job was to make Obama a one term president Obama only divided people because conservatives wanted it that way. Trump divides people with his reckless and divisive retoric.

Randy131
Obama never tried to bring in Republicans to join him and the Democrats in attempted legislation, quite the opposite, because he was so drunk with the power of that huge majority in both houses of Congress, where the Republicans couldn't stop anything the Democrats wanted to pass, proven when the Republicans complained that they were being leftout on the writing the 'Affordable Care Act', and Obama told them that elections had consequences, or have you also conveniently forgotten those Obama words. McConnel only said what he did near the end of Obama's third year in office, because of how Obama always completely ignored anything that the Republicans wanted to add to legislation that Obama wanted passed, which Obama always snubbed his nose at the Republicans, denigrating them ever chance he got. Too bad McConnel couldn't ahieve his goal, because it would have saved the American people 4 more years of the suffering that Obama and the Democrats were putting them through, and if you don't think this is true, then explain to us why many millions of Democrats voted for President Trump, instead of Hillary Clinton, who had promised them that she would continue all of Obama's failed policies and agendas. Without those millions of Democrats voting for President Trump, all those historically blue states could not have been won by President trump, as well as most all the battleground states.

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Oct 24, 2017 19:56:52   #
debeda
 
Randy131 wrote:
Nickolai
Obama's law degree is in Constitutional law so he had to read many books to get his degree Trump doesn't hve the patience to read a book, His professor at Warton says he was the biggest ass hole he ever saw. Leon Skousen was a John Bircher. William F Buckley the father of the modern conservative movement posited that the Birchers were too radical

Randy 131
We don't know anything about Obama's law degree, or what kind of student he was, or what he acomplished in the three colleges that he attended, because the first thing Obama did immediately after his inaguration was to sign an EO that was previously written before his inaguration that locked-up his records where no American citizen could learn what he did or didn't do in college, especially if he got a foreign student scholarship to attend any of those colleges. But what can determine how good of a constitutional graduate that you claim him to be is his record on constitutional matters, especially as the POTUS.Obama is the first President in US history to have lost at least nine SCOTUS cases, and another record is that they were all unanimous decision loses, the most unanimous eecision loses than any President in US history, with at least two of the justices being appointed by Obama, which there were even more SCOTUS loses, but I remember these nine because they were all unanimous decisions against what Obama was claiming. Then there is also a federal court ruling declaring that the money that Obama was paying insurance companies for Obamacare assistance was also unconstitutional, because the US Congress must appropiated the money to do so, which Obama was having his DOJ appeal the decision while he kept making the payments, but President Trump's DOJ has stopped the appeal, saying that they know the federal court ruling to be correct, all money spent must be appropiated by the US Congress, which is a mandate of the US Constitution, and would have increased that unanimous losing decision record to ten.


Nickolai
This is a completely false assertion. All Trump has done is write EO's in an obvious attempt to erase Obamas legacy completely

Randy131
It was all true. President Trump's EOs cannot negate legislated law, but only other EOs, and what they have negated was not Obama's terrible legacy, which is recorded in all his terrible economic statistics and facts for the last 8 years, but instead most of Obama's economic killing EOs, that since President Trump has done this has caused the creation of 1.8 million jobs to put the American people back to work. It has also caused the unemployment rate to decline to a 26 year low, and also the number of new unemployment sign-ups to decline to a 43 year low, and all this during the natural disasters of three hurricanes and many wildfires out west, which historically hurts job creation and job retention.


Nickolai
Trump demagoged by saying the things that ordinary Americans wanted to hear presenting him self as a man of the common people It was the biggest con job in history and the same message Adolph delivered to the German people. He poses exactly as Benito Mussolini did I recognized it immediately all three men are great conn men

Randy 131
President Trump demagoged nothing, he simply told the people what he could and would do for them if they elected him President. He never claimed to be one of them, he always told them that he was a multi-billionaire, how many Americans do you think are that, for sure none of the people who attended all his campaign rallies. As far as "Con Jobs" are concerned, that is promising the people much, but delivering them nothing, which is a perfect description of what Obama did, not President Trump. So far President Trump has fulfilled many of his promises, but he still has 3 years and 9 months to fulfill them all, which after the 2018 national midterm elections, the Republicans will gain many seats in the US Congress because of President Trump, and he won't need the RINOs to get his policies and agendas fulfilled, causing the economy to impriove even more, and setting President Trump up for re-election in 2020, because he will have fulfilled all his promises in his first 4 years, unlike Obama who didn't fulfill much of any of his promises in his entire 8 years as President. Just one example of Obama's failed promises is what he promised about the ACA (Obamacare), that everyone who liked his healthcare plan, could keep that healthcare plan, everyone that liked and trusted their doctors, could keep their doctors, Obamacare would reduce their healthcare costs by at least $2,500.00 a year for a family of four, that Obamacare would be "Funded Neutral", which were all lies, as professor Jonathon Gruber, one of the architects of Obamacare, said that Obama and all the Democrats had to lie to the dumb American people in order to get it passed. I could write a book on all of Obama's 'Con Jobs", or broken promises if that is what you prefer them to be called. President Trump is nothing like Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini for they put themselves first and forced on their people what they didn't want and what hurt their people, which is another perfectly description of Obama. President Trump has put the USA and the American people first, while Obama put foreigners and Islam first, as his actions have proven.


Nickolai
President Obama was bashed by the right on hate radio and Fox News 24/7 and he responded with humor and good spirits. It is common knowledge that the way to get to Trump is to be little him show his ignorance and incompetence he cannot keep from lashing out because he continues to have rallies because he desperately needs the adoring crowds showering him with love and adoration

Randi131
Obama never referred to anything with humor and good spirits, except all the Islamic holidays that he held special parties and adoration worship for celebration in the White House. Obama attacked many times, on national media, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingram, Michael Savage, and Sean Hanity, as well as a few others. Obama also got on national TV and told all Americans to quit watching FOX News because he claimed that they were not a real news organization, as all of these people and this news network did not attack Obama personally, but attacked his terrible failing policies and agendas instead, that the American people hated and didn't want.

What you and most all liberals, progressives, and Democrats want the American people to believe is that attacks on liberal policies and agendas are personal attacks, while personal attacks on conservatives, Christians, and Republicans are policy and agenda attacks, proving your hypocrisy. President Trump only attacks those who attack him first in self-defense, but he is accomplishing a lot more than Obama ever did for you to be calling him incompetent, which Obama's own economic statistical facts actually prove that about Obama. If President trump is ignorant, I and the rest of the American people would much rather have someone who is ignarant and accomplishes what he promised them, that gives them what they want and need, instead of someone who acts as if he was smart, but fails at most everything he tries to do, and forces on the American people what they don't want or need.


Nickolai
What people wanted was change from the trickle down forces that were decimating the middle class and brought on the financial crises of 2007-8 when millions lost their homes pensions savings ect. It never happened because Obama faced more than 200 filibusters in his first term alone. It was In his second term that he had to resort to the EO to get any thing done

Randy131
The middleclass has been decimated more than at anytime in US history during the 8 years of the Obama Presidency, as the middleclass grew greatly during President Reagans 8 years where he instituted trickle down economics that brought us out of Jimmy Carters terrible recession that caused the liberal biased mainstream media to invent the word "STAGFLATION" to define Carter's economy, and invented the "Double Digit Triple Misery Index" to describe what was wrong with Carter's economy of double digit unemployment, double digit inflation, and double digit interest rates, and started the longest growth period of his 8 years, plus the 4 years of George W. Bush's Presidency in US history to that date. In Obama's first two years as President, Obama had something that no other President in modern times have ever had, maybe at no time in US hisotry, and that was his party's majority control of the US House by 40 plus seats, and a filibuster proof majority in the US Senate, which he could have passed anything that he wanted, and wasted all his time on the failed Obamacare fiasco, bribing his own Democrats to get their support for it. Many of Obama's policies were voted down unanimously in the US Senate, and even a few times in the US House, proving what kind of great leader that he actually was.


Nickloai
Obama naively tried to bring Republicans and democrats together but McConnell said from the start their job was to make Obama a one term president Obama only divided people because conservatives wanted it that way. Trump divides people with his reckless and divisive retoric.

Randy131
Obama never tried to bring in Republicans to join him and the Democrats in attempted legislation, quite the opposite, because he was so drunk with the power of that huge majority in both houses of Congress, where the Republicans couldn't stop anything the Democrats wanted to pass, proven when the Republicans complained that they were being leftout on the writing the 'Affordable Care Act', and Obama told them that elections had consequences, or have you also conveniently forgotten those Obama words. McConnel only said what he did near the end of Obama's third year in office, because of how Obama always completely ignored anything that the Republicans wanted to add to legislation that Obama wanted passed, which Obama always snubbed his nose at the Republicans, denigrating them ever chance he got. Too bad McConnel couldn't ahieve his goal, because it would have saved the American people 4 more years of the suffering that Obama and the Democrats were putting them through, and if you don't think this is true, then explain to us why many millions of Democrats voted for President Trump, instead of Hillary Clinton, who had promised them that she would continue all of Obama's failed policies and agendas. Without those millions of Democrats voting for President Trump, all those historically blue states could not have been won by President trump, as well as most all the battleground states.
Nickolai br Obama's law degree is in Constitutiona... (show quote)


Good points Randy131


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Oct 24, 2017 22:59:02   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
debeda wrote:
Good points Randy131








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Oct 25, 2017 00:35:24   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
But the American people like the type of government that is our heritage from our 'Founding Fathers', and don't like the governments of northern Europe and Scandinavia, whose forms of goverment aren't strong enough to provide protection to it's citizens against the Russians or the Chinese, if the Chinese ever had plans to conquer them, like the Russians do, so therefore we have to provide thaty protection for them. And we don't care what you would like to see, for we've fought for our country in our military in order to keep what kind of government we have, and we don't appreciate the likes of you trying to change it. Are you a foreigner, as some on this particular OPP site are no accusing you of being?



Nickolai wrote:
You are speaking of stalinism and Maoism. Both dictatorships. Russia has become an Oligarchy and China has evolved to state capitalism. It appears to me that there is a lot of people trying to get into Europe.

I don't espouse any kind of dictatorship at all. I would like to see a more egalitarian system Some very good examples are the countries of northern Europe and Scandinavia

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