Airforceone

Hilliary did not help the Russians from buying that mine it went through many levels of government from the Canadians to the US the last agency to sign off was the State Department. It's all a standard procedure for any foreign company purchasing a company in the US. The US didn't own the mine the Canadians owned it. Did you have a problem when the Canadians owned it.

It went thru many levels of government before it got to the state department.

Now tell me how Hilliary and Bill benefited from this sale.

The Russians, the Chinese, Japanese own thousands of companies in this country the US has expanded into Russia and China it goes on every day. I listed an example of US corporation in Russia. You blocked coronary that sale then Russians state blocking US corporations from expanding in Russian. Damm Trumps trying to build a Tower in Russia.

How come you're not questioning the Russian purchasing real estate at 5 times the value from Trump. Now he does benefit.

This mine is owned by a Russian not Russia it's operated by American citizens what do you think the Russians are going to do with raw unranium. It is heavily regulated and inspected daily by US inspectors. They sell the uranium to the nuclear power plants in the US. They can't export it.

Now tell me where Hilliary and Bill benefit from a Russian who bought a company in the US.

I have no idea what you trying to say unless you tell me.

I asked you to go thru the process of the sale of that company but you didn't why would Bill or Hilliary care if the Russians purchased a mine in the US they can't export it there regulated it's operated by Americans.

That's the problem with Trump supporters you have been reading nothing but conspiracy theories for the last 9 years you loose all sense of any common sense. You have this blind hate for the Clinton's so you want to believe that the Russians are going to sell this uranium outside the US and that's impossible.

Now again how did Bill and Hilliary benefit from this sale.

Airforceone

I do believe in man made global warming after all Ireland had a hurricane in October. I don't get my global warming information from Exxon or the Koch Brothers.

I don't understand this conspiracy theory on the sale of Uranium One. A key factor ignored by Trump and the Book Clinton Cash. The Canadians owned Uranium One guess that's not a problem. But this Uranium was not and could it ever be exported and all Uranium mined remains under the control of the Nuclear Regulatory commission also US subsidies will remain the Licensee the only thing that changed from the Canadian owner or chairman Ian Telfar to a Russian named Vadim Mikin. The conspiracy that the Uranium One donated $100 million to the Clinton foundation was false the donation came from Ian Telfar 3 years before the sale.

Now actually how many corporations in this country does a Russian own. They own hundreds of companies. Why is that not a problem. How about Russians purchasing Trump real estate at 3 to 5 times the market price.

Yes the Clinton's started an international foundation they received donations from all around the the world any good conspiracy theorist can find discrepancies but never anything was found. That came anywhere to being a crime. There were a lot of accusations but nothing that came close to a crime.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

TD. You are just to much in the bag for the left. Maybe you’re drinking out of the bag. I don’t know. I don’t believe in coincidence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

1. The Clintons got $145,000,000.00. I'm old fashioned enough to call that a benefit.

2. Hillary did approve it, regardless of how it got there. She didn't have to approve it, but she did.

3. I'm still waiting for someone to tell us how it was supposed to benefit anyone except the Clintons and Russians.

Big Bass

All you have is your lies. You have proved only that you lie.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Glad I'm not the only one that sees this. He's one of the more dsihonest posters on this site and that's saying something

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I have told you and proved to you that that did not happen and you do nothing but repeat the same lies..

Do something else, you are no good at debate..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

CLAIM
Sec. of State Hillary Clinton's approval of a deal to transfer control of 20% of U.S. uranium deposits to a Russian company was a quid pro quo exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation. See Example( s )

RATING
FALSE
ORIGIN
In the months leading up to the 2016 United States presidential election, stories abounded about the relationships between the Clinton Foundation and various foreign entities.

May 2015 saw the publication of a book called Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich, an exposé of alleged Clinton Foundation corruption written by Peter Schweizer, a former Hoover Institution fellow and editor-at-large at the right-wing media company Breitbart.

A chapter in the book suggests that the Clinton family and Russia each may have benefited from a “pay-for-play” scheme while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, involving the transfer of U.S. uranium reserves to the new Russian owners of an international mining operation in exchange for $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation.

The mining company, Uranium One, was originally based in South Africa, but merged in 2007 with Canada-based UrAsia Energy. Shareholders there retained a controlling interest until 2010, when Russia’s nuclear agency, Rosatom, completed purchase of a 51% stake. Hillary Clinton played a part in the transaction because it involved the transfer of ownership of a material deemed important to national security — uranium, amounting to one-fifth of U.S. reserves — thus requiring the approval of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), on which the U.S. Secretary of State sits.

During the same time frame that the acquisition took place, Schweizer claims in Clinton Cash, the Clinton Foundation accepted contributions from nine individuals associated with Uranium One totaling more than $100 million. Among those who followed him in citing the transaction as an example of alleged Clinton corruption was GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, who said during a June 2016 speech in New York City:

Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.
Trump’s campaign repeated the allegation in a September 2016 press release, and again in an October 2016 television ad stating that Clinton “gave American uranium rights to the Russians”:


An image circulating via social media during the final months of the presidential campaign asked the question, “So Hillary, if Russia is such a threat, why did you sell them 20% of our uranium? Are you a liar, or a traitor, or both?”

clinton-uranium
The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve

Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters.

Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.

A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:

NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.
The timing of most of the donations does not match

Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lion’s share — $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company’s founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.

Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer, the company’s chairman:

His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.
The timing of Telfer’s donations might be questionable if there was reason to believe that Hillary Clinton was instrumental in the approval of the deal with Russia, but all the evidence points to the contrary — that Clinton did not play a pivotal role, and, in fact, may not have played any role at all.

Foundation admits disclosure mistakes

One fault investigations into the Clinton Foundation’s practices did find was that not all of the donations were properly disclosed — specifically, those of Uranium One Chairman Ian Telfer between 2009 and 2012. The foundation admitted this shortcoming and pledged to correct it, but as the Guardian pointed out in its May 2015 discussion of Clinton Cash, the fact that it happened is reason enough to sound alarm bells:

It is also true that large donations to the foundation from the chairman of Uranium One, Ian Telfer, at around the time of the Russian purchase of the company and while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, were never disclosed to the public. The multimillion sums were channeled through a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation, CGSCI, which did not reveal its individual donors.

Such awkward collisions between Bill’s fundraising activities and Hillary’s public service have raised concerns not just among those who might be dismissed as part of a vast right-wing conspiracy.
An enormous volume of interest and speculation surrounds the workings of the Clinton Foundation, which is to be expected. Given the enormous sums of money it controls and the fact that it is run by a former U.S. president who is married to a possible future U.S. president, the foundation deserves all the scrutiny it gets, and more.

At the same time, for the sake of accuracy it’s crucial to differentiate between partisan accusations and what we actually know about it — however little that may be.

Update

On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval — information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony “indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow,” although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.

Updated [17 October 2017]: Added synopsis of new reportage by The Hill.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

There is no debate because you have no competing argument to refute the truth.

You just put your hands over your ears and scream.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Yet you offer nothing.. Not a single attempt by you to show proof..

You got nothing.. You are the usual right winger..

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

All of your little hate pictures can't divert an honest person from the facts.

1. The Clintons got rim$145,000,000.00
2. The Russians got control of 1/5 of America's Uranium.
3. The rest of America got Nadda...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

why do you keep posting what has been proved to be a lie???

Are you brainless??

Airforceone

Why do you say things like that. I asked him to research the process for the sale. The time frame for the Clinton Foundation donations and the actual date of the sale.

The problem with Trump supporters is you have this hate for this country that simply amazes me. You find nothing wrong with Trump you believe everything he says he's a proven liar but it's okay. You screamed and yelled like children about Obama golf Trump is averaging 2.5 rounds of golf a week at a cost of $3.5 million per week but nothing. I guess the only reasoning was Obama is Black and Trump is White.
It amazes me you have nothing but Trumped up conspiracy theories that you live by and nothing of facts matters to Trump supporters.

Why does this guy get a pass on Puerto Rico, insulting a Gold Star family, I mean I can understand cutting and Or getting rid of the ACA because that's what republicans do. There is a certain segment of society that is expendable so you need to slowly kill them. But you have to address the problem these people vote, so you create this massive voter fraud scam, and Gerrymandering. You need to keep a few democrats around to blame you're failed agenda on. Because republicans have never added a dime to the deficit (Ya Right) the republicans cut $7 billion in subsidies to the poor on the ACA but approve $97 billion in oil and farm subsidies to the most profitable corporations in the country.

46% of republicans support a nuclear pre-emptive strike on North Korea. What a wonderful idea it goes to show the mindset of Trump supporters. (MASSIVE CASUALTIES TRUMP SUPPORTERS LOVE KILLING) We have a $20 trillion deficit which was created by unpaid for wars, and wealthy tax cuts (ITS OKAY THE REPUBLICANS BLAME THIS DEFICIT ON FOOD STAMPS) WWIII is what Trump wants. I wonder how the moron in the White House would be doing if Donald JR, and Eric were sitting on that DMZ line in South Korea. Exactly 60 seconds Nort Korea could wipe out 1.5 million people along with 350,000 Americans.

Had anybody thought about China and Russia if the US strikes North Korea. Do you think they are going to sit back and watch the US level North Korea. If the US strikes first NATO is not required to help and if you think NATO is going to do anything for this moron in the White House you are all crazy. But the whining will begin.

Is there any Trump supporter out there that understands the Massive casualties in Japan, North Korea and South Korea if Trump gets his way. He's like a kid in a playroom trying to take out Rocket Man. But death is the Trump supporters agenda they live killing poor and middle class. Put up walls around our country create travel bans, eliminate all trade agreements, give everybody a gun, eliminate the EPA we don't need clean water let the Corporate elite dump there garbage anywhere they want.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Here is that Right Wing propoganda site "New York Times" reporting on the Clintons getting rich while selling out American security to Russia.

Come on boys... Man up...