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Oct 17, 2017 13:44:30   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
padremike wrote:
The kind of God who personally selected His own mother for His Incarnation is the God we worship. If you can be offended by someone disrespecting your mother what do you think Jesus would feel by anyone disrespecting His mother?


...where in scripture does it say to perform hail mary's? Where??????

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Oct 17, 2017 13:48:36   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Saying the rosary is something I used to do regularly as a practicing catholic. Since I've become a non-denominational Christian I no longer engage in that antiquated, useless exercise.
Imagine talking to your best friend. How inspired would your best friend be if, instead of telling him what was really on your mind, you repetitiously said the same words over and over to him? He'd probably tune you out after the 3rd or 4th time after he realized that you weren't really "talking to him" but rather mechanically repeating the same words over and over, even if they were inspirational.
The rosary, instead of "talking to God" and telling him what's really on our minds is mechanical, rote, repetition of Hail Marys and the Lord's Prayer. It's a useful tool for catholic priests to dispense as penance for catholics who go to confession but as an effective tool for communicating with God, it's worthless.
Even the Bible says not to pray repetitively. But catholics never put much stock in the bible.
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You think repeating a prayer is wrong? You've said the Lord's Prayer only once because it's vain and repetitious?

Holy God, Holy and mighty, Holy and Immortal have mercy on us. Said over and over is of no value?

The Jesus Prayer: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me the sinner!" This ancient prayer, older even than the Rosary, is the entire New Testament in one single prayer because it says who Jesus is and it says who I am. Go to an Orthodox monastery and get into a deep conversation with one of their priests. Notice that he has a small diameter rope with a hundred knots in it and as you are carrying on a conversation with him he is at the same time praying continuously the Jesus Prayer at each knot. Does not the bible say to pray continuously? Can you train yourself to pray like this? Yes, but you won't because you believe Jesus will get tired of you constantly asking for His mercy, pity and love.

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Oct 17, 2017 13:51:07   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
padremike wrote:
Roman Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans all pray in their liturgy every Sunday that we (the Church, The Body of Christ) may all be One. Do you? Who'se ignorant? Who'se intolerant?


I don't use the Vulgate, or the Vatican for direction. You are part of the warped sense of entitlement by being from Rome and being an arm of the military instead of Christ's church. When it suited the Roman Leadership (who are decedents of the Gods) Pagan's to become "Christians" they created a church that supported their degenerate pagan origins.

Nothing in scripture supports the ridiculous "performance art" you call mass. Or how saints are chosen. You are the unholy church of the world, spawned from the garbage of pagans and hypocrites.

Same as the church of England. "Eight" wanted a divorce, so he created the church of England.

I'm just as intolerant as you, you are wrong, wrong and wrong. Speak to me, never more.

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Oct 17, 2017 13:57:52   #
Radiance3
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I know, he's such a jerk.


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You are the JERK! Your name alone means jerk or dumb! It is not worth talking to Satan like you!

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Oct 17, 2017 14:05:41   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...where in scripture does it say to perform hail mary's? Where??????


Where in scripture does it say to "kiss the bride?" The "Tradition" of kissing the bride in the sacrament of Holy Matrimony originated when, at the end of the marriage rite, the priest would say to the groom, "The peace of the Lord be with you" and then pass the kiss of Christ's peace to the groom. It was a liturgical kiss much like men greet one another still in European countries. The groom would then turn to his new bride and say, "The peace of the Lord be also with you" and kiss her in the same way he had received it. It was not the type of kiss we witness today that practically sprouts roots and grows kids at the Altar. It was recognition that three persons were to help keep their marriage sacred. The right way, the Christ like way to begin marriage. But it's not in the bible.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:11:21   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
padremike wrote:
Where in scripture does it say to "kiss the bride?" The "Tradition" of kissing the bride in the sacrament of Holy Matrimony originated when, at the end of the marriage rite, the priest would say to the groom, "The peace of the Lord be with you" and then pass the kiss of Christ's peace to the groom. It was a liturgical kiss much like men greet one another still in European countries. The groom would then turn to his new bride and say, "The peace of the Lord be also with you" and kiss her in the same way he had received it. It was not the type of kiss we witness today that practically sprouts roots and grows kids at the Altar. It was recognition that three persons were to help keep their marriage sacred. The right way, the Christ like way to begin marriage. But it's not in the bible.
Where in scripture does it say to "kiss the b... (show quote)


Great. So what?

Protestants, don't recognize marriage as a sacrament.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:12:30   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You are the JERK! Your name alone means jerk or dumb! It is not worth talking to Satan like you!


...and another loving, nurturing Catholic bears their claws. Go back to sleep, you're going to hell anyways, no matter how many hypocritical hail Mary's you say....

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Oct 17, 2017 14:24:24   #
Radiance3
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...and another loving, nurturing Catholic bears their claws. Go back to sleep, you're going to hell anyways, no matter how many hypocritical hail Mary's you say....


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True, but it is Satan who says that!

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Oct 17, 2017 14:30:21   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Doc110 wrote:
01/10/2017 10 Reasons Why the Rosary Is Powerful

Fr. Dwight Longenecker
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/2017/01/ten-reasons-rosary-powerful.html

Saints say it. Popes say it.

The Rosary is a powerful weapon against evil.

But have you stopped to figure out why?

Here are ten reasons why the Rosary prayer is the most powerful and how you can use it most fully.


1. It Engages Your Will  –

The human will is powerful because it is a sharing in God’s power.

He gives us the will to choose to do good or choose to do evil, and that will, in and of itself, is a powerful weapon in the spiritual realm.

That’s why Satan seeks to enslave us and incapacitate our will through addictions.

When our will is joined with God’s will through prayer we literally tap into God’s own power source.


2. It is Physical –

God has given us bodies and souls.

Angels–and this includes demons–are purely spiritual creatures.

They have no physical form and are therefore inferior to us.

When we pray the rosary we use our bodies.

We hold the rosary beads which include a crucifix.

If possible we should adopt an intentionally physical posture for prayer either walking, kneeling or sitting attentively.

If possible we should also use other physical sacramentals like blessed candles, holy water, maybe some incense and holy pictures or statues.

When we use the physical aspects of prayer we are using tools that we have and which Satan does not have.


3. It Engages our Linguistic Functions – 

God has not only given us bodies. He has given us physical speech. We have tongues to praise him. We have vocal chords and breath to speak and sing.

Satan does not have the means of physical speech. Animals do not have physical speech. Humans do.

Therefore we should pray the rosary out loud moving our lips.

This engages our physical bodies and our intellect through which we are able to produce speech.


4. It Involves Our Imagination –

The non-verbal part of our mind communicates through imagery.

We not only think with language, but we think in pictures.

Satan likes to captivate our imagination through sinful images.

These images can be communicated through internet, television or any visual stimulus, but he also want our imagination to dwell in images that are destructive.

So our imagination can be used for lustful fantasies, violent imaginations against our enemies or indulging in negative memories.

When we meditate on the mysteries of the rosary we engage that channel of our mind in a positive and purifying way.

Meditating on the mysteries therefore cleanses our imagination and engages and uses the imagination to promote God’s will rather than evil.


5. The Rosary Occupies the Language Facility —

In order to allow the imagination to be properly cleansed through meditation it helps to switch into imagination mode.

Unfortunately our minds usually function in a linguistic mode–using speech and speech concepts to think through problems, think about the future, plan what comes next etc.

By praying the rosary this channel of our mind is occupied and the doors can open to the imagination and what I call the “sub linguistic” parts of our being.


6. The Sub Linguistic is Accessed – 

Much of our soul work takes place in the realm of emotions. Emotions are not linguistic nor are they imaginative.

They are just raw emotions. We feel angry. We feel rage. We feel lust. We feel bliss. We feel peace.

True emotions are irrational and unexplainable.

The emotional area of the soul is also the area where we have our foundational experiences.

In the mother’s womb and in the pre-linguistic stages of life we experience life in an irrational and emotional way.

As we pray the rosary and the linguistic channel is occupied and the imaginative channel is occupied the Holy Spirit can access the sub
linguistic, deep down, raw experiences of our earliest days.

If there are wounds and bad emotional memories there Mother Mary can help heal them.


7. The Healing Mysteries are Applied 

I have written more about how this works in my book Praying the Rosary for Inner Healing but suffice it to say that as we pray the rosary.

The mysteries of Christ’s birth, ministry, passion and glory are opened up and the Holy Spirit applies them to our own inner needs.

Where there are impurities they are purged, where there are bad memories, they are healed.

Where there are wounds, Doctor Jesus and Nurse Mary minister to our needs.


8. Spiritual Warfare is Engaged –

Satan hates the rosary. He hates Mary. He hates the gospel. He hates God. He hates Christ the Lord.

He hates the Lord’s Prayer. He hates the Hail Mary. He hates you.

Every time you pray the rosary, because of what I outlined above, you are entering the territory that he wants to claim as his own.

He wants control over your will. You take that from him. He wants control over your speech. You take that from him.

He wants control over your imagination. You take that from him. He wants control over your emotions and your early life.

You take that from him.


9. The Battle Against Evil in the Word in Opened – 

I have written more about this in my second book on the rosary called Praying the Rosary for Spiritual Warfare. 

Here I can say that in many ways the mysteries of the gospel bring alive Christ’s victory over Satan and by praying the rosary we can apply those victories against Satan’s work in the world.


10. It is Accessible and Easy for All – 

The fantastically amazing thing about the rosary is that God does this very deep healing work in individual lives and in the world in this most accessible and easy way.

No need for long sessions of psychoanalysis or counseling for most people.

Instead ordinary men, women and boys and girls can simply pray the rosary.

All these good things happen even when they are unaware that these deep aspect of praying the rosary are taking place.

It doesn’t matter who–an old peasant woman or a smart college professor, a little child or a busy mom. Billions of Catholics.

All can pray the rosary.

So stop complaining and get busy praying!
01/10/2017 10 Reasons Why the Rosary Is Powerful b... (show quote)

Praying the rosary is promoted within the Catholic Church as a means of strengthening one’s faith, resisting evil, growing spiritually, and generally benefiting society. While some of the prayer of the rosary is scriptural, the whole second half of the “Hail Mary” and portions of the “Hail, Holy Queen” are blatantly unbiblical. While the first part of the Hail Mary is almost a direct quotation from Luke 1:28, there is no scriptural basis for (1) praying to Mary, (2) addressing her as “holy,” or (3) calling her “our life” and “our hope.”

Praying the rosary involves giving attributes to Mary that the Bible never gives her. To call Mary “holy”—the Catholic Church teaches that Mary never sinned or had any taint of original sin—is not biblical. The Bible calls all believers “saints,” which can be interpreted as “holy ones,” but Scripture says that the righteousness believers have is the imparted righteousness from Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21). In this life, no one is yet sanctified from sin in practice (1 John 1:9—2:1). Jesus is called our Savior repeatedly in Scripture because He saved us from our sin. In Luke 1:47, Mary calls God her “Savior.” Savior from what? A sinless person does not need a Savior. Sinners need a Savior. Mary acknowledged that God was her Savior. Therefore, Mary acknowledged that she was a sinner.

Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21). The Roman Catholic Church claims that Mary was saved from sin differently from everyone else—that she was saved from sin through the immaculate conception (her being conceived free of sin). But is this teaching scriptural? The Roman Catholic Church openly admits that this doctrine is not found in Scripture. When a young man addressed Jesus as “good Master” (Matthew 19:16–17), Jesus asked why he called Him “good” since there is none good but one, God. Jesus was trying to make the young man aware that he was using the term good too loosely. In praying the rosary, Catholics use the term holy too loosely. No one, including Mary, is holy but God. This ties in with Romans 3:10–23, Romans 5:12, and countless other passages that stress the fact that in God’s eyes no one measures up. Never is Mary excluded from such all-encompassing statements.

But praying the rosary has an even more basic problem, namely, that much of the prayer directed to Mary, not to God. We are never told in the Bible whether anyone else in heaven can even hear us. God alone is all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-present. When Jesus taught His disciples to pray, He taught them to address their prayers to God the Father. Every example of prayer in the Bible is addressed to God alone. There is never a single example of someone praying to any “saint” or angel or anyone else (besides prayers to false gods). Further, any time that a pious person prostrates himself (in a religious setting) to honor someone else besides God (chiefly to the apostles or angels), he is told to get up, to stop it (Acts 10:25–26; 14:13–16; Matthew 4:10; Revelation 19:10; 22:8–9). The Roman Catholic Church states that it worships God alone but “venerates” Mary and the saints. What is the difference? A person praying the rosary spends more time calling out to Mary than to God. For every one praise of God in the rosary, there are ten praises of Mary!

Praying the rosary also assigns a task to Mary that the Bible never assigns her. Jesus is our Redeemer (Galatians 3:13; 4:4–5; Titus 2:14; 1 Peter 1:18–19; Revelation 5:9), our heavenly Advocate (1 John 2:1), and our one and only Mediator (1 Timothy 2:5). The “Hail, Holy Queen” portion of the rosary prayer calls Mary our “most gracious advocate.” This is a direct contradiction of the clear biblical teaching that only Jesus is our go-between.

Praying the rosary requires Catholics to call upon Mary as the “holy Queen.” The only time in Scripture that the title “Queen of Heaven” is found, the term is used in a negative way (Jeremiah 7:17–19; 44:16–27). The Bible never pictures Mary as a queen; rather, she calls herself “the Lord’s servant” (Luke 1:38). She is never given a crown or authority over heaven and earth. Likewise, is it appropriate, while praying the rosary, to call Mary our “life” and “hope”? Again, these are terms that are used of God alone in Scripture (John 1:1–14; Colossians 3:4; 1 Timothy 1:1; Ephesians 2:12; Titus 2:13).

The practice of saying the rosary runs contrary to Scripture in a number of ways. Only God can hear our prayers. Only God can answer our prayers. We have one intermediary (Jesus), and it is in His name we pray, not Mary’s.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:33:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I don't use the Vulgate, or the Vatican for direction. You are part of the warped sense of entitlement by being from Rome and being an arm of the military instead of Christ's church. When it suited the Roman Leadership (who are decedents of the Gods) Pagan's to become "Christians" they created a church that supported their degenerate pagan origins.

Nothing in scripture supports the ridiculous "performance art" you call mass. Or how saints are chosen. You are the unholy church of the world, spawned from the garbage of pagans and hypocrites.

Same as the church of England. "Eight" wanted a divorce, so he created the church of England.

I'm just as intolerant as you, you are wrong, wrong and wrong. Speak to me, never more.
I don't use the Vulgate, or the Vatican for direct... (show quote)


You get to celebrate an anniversary this year. Your Protest faith is 500 years old. Orthodox and Roman Catholics have a 1500 year advantage over you and the History and Christian Traditions that goes with it. You, in 500 years have managed to produce over 25,000 competing denominations, all using the same basic scripture, all possessing different interpretations. If you even possessed an ancient liturgy for celebrating the Eucharist it would not be valid because you do not have clergy ordained in valid apostolic succession capable of calling upon the Holy Spirit to change the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ - exactly as scripture commands His Church to do. You have opinions, hatred, bigotry, and you have some great preachers and hymns, and an emotional spiritual relationship. But you do not have a physical relationship with Jesus in His Eucharist. The more one receives the Body and Blood of Christ the more Christ like (little Christ's) they become. But I still recognize your free will and yet it saddens me you prefer a hot dog plate to a fantastic feast when you attend church. You wear old worn clothes and not the wedding garment provided by your Lord.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:41:38   #
Radiance3
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Praying the rosary is promoted within the Catholic Church as a means of strengthening one’s faith, resisting evil, growing spiritually, and generally benefiting society. While some of the prayer of the rosary is scriptural, the whole second half of the “Hail Mary” and portions of the “Hail, Holy Queen” are blatantly unbiblical. While the first part of the Hail Mary is almost a direct quotation from Luke 1:28, there is no scriptural basis for (1) praying to Mary, (2) addressing her as “holy,” or (3) calling her “our life” and “our hope.”

Praying the rosary involves giving attributes to Mary that the Bible never gives her. To call Mary “holy”—the Catholic Church teaches that Mary never sinned or had any taint of original sin—is not biblical. The Bible calls all believers “saints,” which can be interpreted as “holy ones,” but Scripture says that the righteousness believers have is the imparted righteousness from Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21). In this life, no one is yet sanctified from sin in practice (1 John 1:9—2:1). Jesus is called our Savior repeatedly in Scripture because He saved us from our sin. In Luke 1:47, Mary calls God her “Savior.” Savior from what? A sinless person does not need a Savior. Sinners need a Savior. Mary acknowledged that God was her Savior. Therefore, Mary acknowledged that she was a sinner.

Jesus came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21). The Roman Catholic Church claims that Mary was saved from sin differently from everyone else—that she was saved from sin through the immaculate conception (her being conceived free of sin). But is this teaching scriptural? The Roman Catholic Church openly admits that this doctrine is not found in Scripture. When a young man addressed Jesus as “good Master” (Matthew 19:16–17), Jesus asked why he called Him “good” since there is none good but one, God. Jesus was trying to make the young man aware that he was using the term good too loosely. In praying the rosary, Catholics use the term holy too loosely. No one, including Mary, is holy but God. This ties in with Romans 3:10–23, Romans 5:12, and countless other passages that stress the fact that in God’s eyes no one measures up. Never is Mary excluded from such all-encompassing statements.

But praying the rosary has an even more basic problem, namely, that much of the prayer directed to Mary, not to God. We are never told in the Bible whether anyone else in heaven can even hear us. God alone is all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-present. When Jesus taught His disciples to pray, He taught them to address their prayers to God the Father. Every example of prayer in the Bible is addressed to God alone. There is never a single example of someone praying to any “saint” or angel or anyone else (besides prayers to false gods). Further, any time that a pious person prostrates himself (in a religious setting) to honor someone else besides God (chiefly to the apostles or angels), he is told to get up, to stop it (Acts 10:25–26; 14:13–16; Matthew 4:10; Revelation 19:10; 22:8–9). The Roman Catholic Church states that it worships God alone but “venerates” Mary and the saints. What is the difference? A person praying the rosary spends more time calling out to Mary than to God. For every one praise of God in the rosary, there are ten praises of Mary!

Praying the rosary also assigns a task to Mary that the Bible never assigns her. Jesus is our Redeemer (Galatians 3:13; 4:4–5; Titus 2:14; 1 Peter 1:18–19; Revelation 5:9), our heavenly Advocate (1 John 2:1), and our one and only Mediator (1 Timothy 2:5). The “Hail, Holy Queen” portion of the rosary prayer calls Mary our “most gracious advocate.” This is a direct contradiction of the clear biblical teaching that only Jesus is our go-between.

Praying the rosary requires Catholics to call upon Mary as the “holy Queen.” The only time in Scripture that the title “Queen of Heaven” is found, the term is used in a negative way (Jeremiah 7:17–19; 44:16–27). The Bible never pictures Mary as a queen; rather, she calls herself “the Lord’s servant” (Luke 1:38). She is never given a crown or authority over heaven and earth. Likewise, is it appropriate, while praying the rosary, to call Mary our “life” and “hope”? Again, these are terms that are used of God alone in Scripture (John 1:1–14; Colossians 3:4; 1 Timothy 1:1; Ephesians 2:12; Titus 2:13).

The practice of saying the rosary runs contrary to Scripture in a number of ways. Only God can hear our prayers. Only God can answer our prayers. We have one intermediary (Jesus), and it is in His name we pray, not Mary’s.

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We don't pray to Mary. We honor Mary as Jesus honor his mother who sacrificed, and obeyed God who born him in flesh for Jesus to show us the way to live, and to redeem our sins. That is why Jesus has put this as one of commandments. "Honor they father and thy mother". We pray and worship Jesus Christ. It is the central focus and the whole substance of our mass every Sunday. Why do you deny that? Listen and learn before judging.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:42:40   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Great. So what?

Protestants, don't recognize marriage as a sacrament.


Protestants once recognized marriage as a sacrament, holy before God. Now they allow couples to make up their own vows. Stupid! Yet it is apropos when only legitimizing shacking up, eliminating God out of marriage. They once believed homosexuality was a sin, not all do today. Until 1928 all protestant denominations also believed birth control was wrong. You want to continue this line of discussion to prove how uninformed you are?

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Oct 17, 2017 14:50:38   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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True, but it is Satan who says that!


I knew you were Satan.

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Oct 17, 2017 14:53:52   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
padremike wrote:
Protestants once recognized marriage as a sacrament, holy before God. Now they allow couples to make up their own vows. Stupid! Yet it is apropos when only legitimizing shacking up, eliminating God out of marriage. They once believed homosexuality was a sin, not all do today. Until 1928 all protestant denominations also believed birth control was wrong. You want to continue this line of discussion to prove how uninformed you are?


When? My wife and I received counseling from our minister with no mention of it being a sacrament. He never mentioned at the time it was a sacrament or informed us of the history of sacraments. You're a liar. And ignorant of 99% of all other religious beliefs except your own.

....and yet can't point me to any scripture to support your pagan beliefs...because they are fiction. Try harder.

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Oct 17, 2017 15:02:37   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I don't use the Vulgate, or the Vatican for direction. You are part of the warped sense of entitlement by being from Rome and being an arm of the military instead of Christ's church. When it suited the Roman Leadership (who are decedents of the Gods) Pagan's to become "Christians" they created a church that supported their degenerate pagan origins.

Nothing in scripture supports the ridiculous "performance art" you call mass. Or how saints are chosen. You are the unholy church of the world, spawned from the garbage of pagans and hypocrites.

Same as the church of England. "Eight" wanted a divorce, so he created the church of England.

I'm just as intolerant as you, you are wrong, wrong and wrong. Speak to me, never more.
I don't use the Vulgate, or the Vatican for direct... (show quote)


Henry VIII was irritated at the Pope because, for political expediency, he was forced to marry his deceased brother's wife violating the law of consanguinity. Now go scratch your head on that one. If you have difficulty finding the top of your head, a couple of us here can point you in the right direction. Henry was born, lived and died a Catholic. The church in England and the church of England two different churches. The church of England emerged after Hendry passed.

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