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Oct 29, 2017 17:25:57   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
...and yet Jesus doesn't mention the Rosary...so you're a heretic and hypocrite.

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Oct 29, 2017 17:28:27   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Doc110 wrote:
Dummy boy,

Paul, also taught Confession of sins by a priest and to the churches that he founded.

a. 2 Corinthians 9:13 Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, others will praise God for the obedience that accompanies your confession of the gospel of Christ, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone. else.
b. 1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
c. 1 Timothy 6:13 In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you.
d. 1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Dummy boy, br br Paul, also taught Confession of ... (show quote)


The word priest isn't anywhere to be found, are you on drugs? And many witnesses is not A Priest.

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Oct 29, 2017 18:31:59   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Dummy boy,

Still the Evangelical anti-Catholic naysayer on this thread post. 10 Reasons Why the Rosary Is Powerful.

I'll say a rosary for you for discernment and religious learning. There are 825 reference's to Priests in the Bible.

1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
Genesis 14:18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High.
Malachi 2:1 Additional Warning to the Priests “And now, you priests, this warning is for you.
Malachi 2:7 “For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, because he is the messenger of the Lord Almighty and people seek instruction from his mouth.
Matthew 2:4 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Messiah was to be born.
Matthew 8:4 Then Jesus said to him, “See that you don’t tell anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”
Matthew 12:4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests.
Matthew 12:5 Or haven’t you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent?
Matthew 16:21 Jesus Predicts His Death From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
Matthew 20:18 “We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death
Matthew 21:15 But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple courts, “Hosanna to the Son of David,” they were indignant.
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Matthew 21:23 The Authority of Jesus Questioned Jesus entered the temple courts, and, while he was teaching, the chief priests and the elders of the people came to him. “By what authority are you doing these things?” they asked. “And who gave you this authority?”
Matthew 21:45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them.
Matthew 26:3 Then the chief priests and the elders of the people assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas,
Matthew 26:14 Judas Agrees to Betray Jesus Then one of the Twelve—the one called Judas Iscariot—went to the chief priests
Matthew 26:47 Jesus Arrested While he was still speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, arrived. With him was a large crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests and the elders of the people.
Matthew 26:51 With that, one of Jesus’ companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.
Matthew 26:57 Jesus Before the Sanhedrin Those who had arrested Jesus took him to Caiaphas the high priest, where the teachers of the law and the elders had assembled.
Matthew 26:58 But Peter followed him at a distance, right up to the courtyard of the high priest. He entered and sat down with the guards to see the outcome.
Matthew 26:59 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for false evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death.
Matthew 26:62 Then the high priest stood up and said to Jesus, “Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?”
Matthew 26:63 But Jesus remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”
Matthew 26:65 Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy.
Matthew 27:1 [ Judas Hangs Himself ] Early in the morning, all the chief priests and the elders of the people made their plans how to have Jesus executed.
Matthew 27:3 When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders.
Matthew 27:6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.”
Matthew 27:12 When he was accused by the chief priests and the elders, he gave no answer.
Matthew 27:20 But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.
Matthew 27:41 In the same way the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders mocked him.
Matthew 27:62 The Guard at the Tomb The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate.
Matthew 28:11 The Guards’ Report While the women were on their way, some of the guards went into the city and reported to the chief priests everything that had happened.
Matthew 28:12 When the chief priests had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money,
Mark 1:44 “See that you don’t tell this to anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them.”
Mark 2:26 In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.”
Mark 8:31 Jesus Predicts His Death He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.
Mark 10:33 “We are going up to Jerusalem,” he said, “and the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will hand him over to the Gentiles,
Mark 11:18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.
Mark 11:27 The Authority of Jesus Questioned They arrived again in Jerusalem, and while Jesus was walking in the temple courts, the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders came to him.
Mark 12:12 Then the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders looked for a way to arrest him because they knew he had spoken the parable against them. But they were afraid of the crowd; so they left him and went away.
Mark 14:1 Anointed at Bethany Now the Passover and the Festival of Unleavened Bread were only two days away, and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were scheming to arrest Jesus secretly and kill him.
Mark 14:10 Then Judas Iscariot, one of the Twelve, went to the chief priests to betray Jesus to them.
Mark 14:43 Jesus Arrested Just as he was speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, appeared. With him was a crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests, the teachers of the law, and the elders.
Mark 14:47 Then one of those standing near drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.
Mark 14:53 Jesus Before the Sanhedrin They took Jesus to the high priest, and all the chief priests, the elders and the teachers of the law came together.
Mark 14:54 Peter followed him at a distance, right into the courtyard of the high priest. There he sat with the guards and warmed himself at the fire.
Mark 14:55 The chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin were looking for evidence against Jesus so that they could put him to death, but they did not find any.
Mark 14:60 Then the high priest stood up before them and asked Jesus, “Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?”


Dummy Boy wrote:
The word priest isn't anywhere to be found, are you on drugs? And many witnesses is not A Priest.

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Oct 29, 2017 18:46:28   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Dummy Boy,

The "Hail Mary" words are found in the Bible, the "Our Father" prayer are found in the Bible. It's an extension of those prayers.

These are Prayer's, they can be prayed, with or without your Evangelical Reformations' sola scriptura, obstinate approval.

Are you being obtuse and ignorant at the same time ?

Your recent wrangling of questionable words have no religious basis, in this post thread.

You lost the argument, leave it at that.

This must be deeming for you . . .


Dummy Boy wrote:


...and yet Jesus doesn't mention the Rosary...so you're a heretic and hypocrite.

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Oct 29, 2017 19:05:09   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Doc110 wrote:
Dummy Boy,

The "Hail Mary" words are found in the Bible, the "Our Father" prayer are found in the Bible. It's an extension of those prayers.

These are Prayer's, they can be prayed, with or without your Evangelical Reformations' sola scriptura, obstinate approval.

Are you being obtuse and ignorant at the same time ?

Your recent wrangling of questionable words have no religious basis, in this post thread.

You lost the argument, leave it at that.

This must be deeming for you . . .
Dummy Boy, br br The "Hail Mary" words... (show quote)

Will you please provide book, chapter, and verses where the "Hail Mary" is found in the Bible?

And will you also please provide book, chapter, and verses where when after Jesus, speaking on what to pray, said, "And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Pray then like this:..." that He instructed them to pray the rosary?

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Oct 29, 2017 19:07:17   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
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Oct 29, 2017 22:51:19   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
mwdegutis, (Part 1)

This is a re-peat, and love your robotic religious questions and your general lack of knowledge and religious Christian faith.

You sounds like the "Protestant Inquisition," woo, I'm scared, (Sarcasm).

Love your little religious Independent Christian spiritual traps and diggs.

You are sounding more like the "Sanhedrin, Pharisees and the Jewish scribes" by using word vernacular, and word semantics nuances against Jesus, and the inspired words of the Bible.

mwdegutis, then your trying to say, and have a religious Independent Christian,"Got-Yeah moment. How predictable . . .

mwdegutis, your a small and petty religious bigot. For "Shame On You" and your little religious Independent Christian mis-cretan thoughts and evil notions. Your such a delusional deceiving lying person, trying to entrap any and all Christians.

So Jesus Christ say's "Beware the Religious Christian Independent Heretic." I'm entitled a small religious embellishment.

1. False Teachers in the Church Today, a previous posted article. Heed the biblical warnings, mwdegutis.
https://www.challies.com/articles/7-false-teachers-in-the-church-today/
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-115849-1.html

1. The Heretic: (2 Peter 2:1) and (Jude 1:3).
2. The Charlatan: (1 Timothy 6:3-5) and (Acts 8:9-24).
3. The Prophet: (1 John 4:1) and (Revelation 22:18-19).
4. The Abuser: (2 Peter 2:2) and (Jude 4)
5. The Divider: (Jude 18-21), (Galatians 5:22) and Ephesians 4:3)
6. The Tickler: (2 Timothy 4:3-4) and (Jeremiah 6:14)
7. The Speculator: (Hebrews 13:9) and (1 Timothy 1:3)

Conclusion: (Matthew 7:15-16a)
Satan’s greatest ambassadors are not pimps, politicians, or power-brokers, but pastors.
a. Satan’s greatest ambassadors are not pimps, politicians, or power-brokers, but pastors. His priests do not peddle a
different religion, but a deadly perversion of the true one. His troops do not make a full-out frontal assault, but work as
agents, sneaking into the opposing army. Satan’s tactics are studied, clever, predictable, effective.
b. Therefore, we must always remain vigilant. “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly
are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-16a).

More in Deadly Doctrines:
a. False Teachers and Deadly Doctrines
https://www.challies.com/articles/false-teachers-and-deadly-doctrines/
b. The Five Tests of False Doctrine
https://www.challies.com/articles/test-every-doctrine-test-every-teacher/
c. Deadly Doctrines: The Pattern and Protection
https://www.challies.com/articles/deadly-doctrine-the-pattern-and-protection/
d. Deadly Doctrines: Facing Evil Like Snakes and Doves
https://www.challies.com/articles/deadly-doctrines-facing-evil-likes-snakes-and-doves/

Enjoy your anti-Catholic religious scriptural questioning, while it lasts.

mwdegutis, its all found in the Bible with Scriptural references.

You have got to love Catholic Apologetics, they do all the written and scriptural biblical passage answers for you.

I hope these 5 Biblical references-answers, confound's your simple misguided Anti-Catholicism bigotry, hatred and personal religious independent Christian theology.


1. The "Hail Mary," The Rosary" and Sacred Scripture reference's.
a. Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.
Luke 1:28 "And coming to her, he said, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you."
The Greek kecharitomene means favored by grace, graced.
It's tense suggests a permanent state of being "highly favored," thus full of grace.
Charity, the divine love within us, comes from the same root.
God is infinite Goodness, infinite Love.
Mary is perfect created goodness, filled to the limit of her finite being with grace or charity.
b. Blessed art thou among women.
Luke 1:41-42a "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy
Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women..."
c. Behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed.
Luke 1:48 "For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."
Among all women is a way to say the highest/greatest etc. of a group in Semitic languages (these words would likely have
been spoken in Aramaic).
Mary is being called the greatest of all women, greater than Ruth, greater than Sarah, greater than EVE!
Since Eve was created immaculate (without original sin), Mary must have been conceived immaculate.
And, although Eve fell into sin by her own free will, Mary must have corresponded to God's grace and remained sinless.
She could not otherwise be greater than Eve.
Thus, as the Fathers of the Church unanimously assert, "Mary is the New Eve" who restores womanhood to God's original
intention and cooperates with the New Adam, her Son,Jesus Christ for the Redemption and salvation of the world.
d. Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus
Luke 1:42b "and blessed is the fruit of your womb."
Jesus is Mary's fruit. Good fruit does not come from anything but a good tree (Mt. 7:17-18)!
The all-holy Son of God could not be the fruit of any other tree than the Immaculate Virgin.
e. Holy Mary, Mother of God
Luke 1:43 "And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Kyrios is the Greek word used by the Jews in the Septuagint Bible (Greek translation) for Yhwh, the Divine Name of God.
In her greeting of Mary, Elizabeth is saying: "How is it that the mother of my God should come to me."
Against the heresies of the 4th and 5th centuries which tried to split the Person of Jesus into two, divine and human,
denying one or the other.
The Council of Ephesus in 431 AD proclaimed Mary Theotokos (God-bearer, i.e. mother of God).
Jesus is a single Person, a Divine Person, the 2nd Person of the Most Holy Trinity.
To be mother of the Person Jesus is to be mother of a Person who is God. Mary's title protects this truth against errors
which emphasize or deny, either the divinity or humanity of Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
f. Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
Luke 2:35 "...and you yourself a sword will pierce, so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."
Do whatever he tells you.
John 2:5 "His mother said to the servers, "Do whatever he tells you."
Mary sees a need and appeals to Her Son to satisfy it. He does.
We turn to Mary to ask her to intercede with her Son in our daily spiritual and material needs, but especially at the hour of
our death.
g. At that moment our salvation hangs in the balance as the devil makes his final foray to deter us from the path to God
(Rev. 2:10). It is not surprising, therefore, that both the Hail Mary and the Our Father conclude with an appeal to be
delivered from the evil one.

The Holy Hail Mary prayer: All found in Biblical scripture . . .

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou among women and
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus
Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

There is your scriptural answer's for the "Hail Mary" prayer

mwdegutis wrote:

1. Will you please, provide book, chapter, and verses where the "Hail Mary" is found in the Bible?

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Oct 29, 2017 23:06:30   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
10 Reasons Why the Rosary Is Powerful (Part 2)

Sola Scriptura:
Jn 21:25 ... not everything is in the Bible.
2 Thess 2:15; 2 Tim 2:2; 1 Cor 11:2; 1 Thess 2:13 ... Paul speaks of oral tradition.
Acts 2:42 ... early Christians followed apostolic tradition.
2 Pet 3:16 ... Bible hard to understand, get distorted.
2 Jn 1:12; 3 Jn 1:13-14 ... more oral tradition.
2 Pet 1:20-21 ... against personal interpretation.
Acts 8:31; Heb 5:12 ... guidance needed to interpret scriptures.

Sola Fide:
Jas 2:14-26 ... what good is faith w/o works?
Heb 10:26 ... must avoid sin.
Jas 5:20 ... "earning" forgiveness.
Lk 6:46; Mt 7:21; Mt 19:16-21; Jn 5:29 ... must do will of God.
1 Cor 9:27 ... "buffet my body ..."
Phil 2:12; 2 Cor 5:10; Rom 2:6-10, 13, 3:31; Mt 25:32-46; Gal 6:6-10; Rev 20:12 ... works have merit.
1 Jn 2:3-4; 1 Jn 3:24; 1 Jn 5:3 ... keep commandments.

Salvation (once and for all?):
1 Cor 9:27 ... after preaching ... I myself disqualified.
1 Cor 10:12 ... thinks that he stands ... lest he fall.
Phil 2:12 ... work out salvation with fear and trembling.
Heb 4:1 ... fear of failing to reach salvation.
1 Jn 5:16,17 ... some sins are mortal, some not.
Rom 11:21,22 ... spare branches, continue or be cut off.

Catholic Deuterocanonical Biblical Books: Protestant Apocrypha Books:
Deuterocanonicals were used in NT: 2 Mach 6:18-7:42 ... Heb 11:35; Wisdom 3:5-6 ... 1 Pet 1:6-7; Wisdom 13:1-9 ... Rom 1:18-32
Septuagint (Gk, w/ Deuterocanonicals) version of OT quoted in NT, noticably different from Hebrew version: Is 7:14 ... Mt 1:23; Is 40:3 ... Mt 3:3; Joel 2:30-31 ... Acts 2:19-29; Ps 95:7-9 ... Heb 3:7-9 etc.

Purgatory:
Lk 12:59; 1 Cor 3:15; 1 Pet 1:7; Mt 5:25-26 ... temporary agony.
Heb 12:6-11 ... God's painful discipline.
Mt 12:32 ... no forgiveness ... nor in the age to come.
1 Pet 3:19 ... purgatory (limbo?).
Rev 21:27 ... nothing unclean shall enter heaven.
Heb 12:23 ... souls in heaven are perfect.
Col 1:24; 2 Sam 12:14 ... "extra" suffering.
2 Mac 12:43-46 ... sacrifice for the dead.
2 Tim 1:15-18 ... prayer for Onesiphorus for "that Day."
1 Jn 5:14-17 ... mortal/venial sins

The Eucharist:
Mt 26:26-27; Mk 14:22,24; Lk 22:19-20; 1 Cor 10:24-25 ... this is my body ... this is my blood.
1 Cor 11:26-30 ... sinning against the body and blood.
Jn 6:32-58 ... long discourse on Eucharist.
Gen 14:18; Ps 110:4; Heb 7:1-17 ... Melchizedek.
Acts 2:42 ... breaking of bread.
Ps 27:1-2; Is 9:18-20; Is 49:26; Micah 3:3; Rev 17:6,16 ... symbolic interpretation of Jn 6 inappropriate.

Baptism of Infants:
Acts 2:38-39; Acts 16:15, 16:33, 18:8; 1 Cor 1:16 ... suggests baptism of all, incl. children.
Jn 3:5; Rom 6:4 ... necessity of baptism.
Col 2:11-12 ... circumcision (normally performed on infants c.f. Gen 17:12) replaced by baptism.

Forgiveness of Sins:
Jn 20:22-23 ... "if you forgive ... they are forgiven."
Mt 18:18 ... binding on earth and heaven.
2 Cor 5:18 ... ministry of reconciliation.
Jas 5:14-16 ... forgiveness of sins, anointing of the sick, confession.

Papacy/Infallibility:
Mt 10:1-4; Mk 3:16-19; Lk 6:14-16; Acts 1:13; Lk 9:32 ... Peter always mentioned first, as foremost apostle.
Mt 18:21; Mk 8:29; Lk 12:41; Jn 6:69 ... Peter speaks for the apostles.
Acts 2:14-40 ... Pentecost: Peter who first preached.
Acts 3:6-7 ... Peter worked first healing.
Acts 10:46-48 ... Gentiles to be baptized revealed to Peter.
Jn 1:42 ... Simon is Cephas (Aramaic: Kepha for rock).
Mt 16:18-19 ... "on this Rock ... keys ... bind ... loose"
Is 22:22; Rev 1:18 ... keys as symbol of authority.
Jn 21:17 ... "feed my sheep"
Lk 22:31-32 ... "Simon ... strengthen your brethren".
Lk 10:1-2, 16; Jn 13:20; 2 Cor 5:20; Gal 4:14; Acts 5:1-5 ... "vicars" (substitutes) of Christ.
Mk 6:20; Lk 1:70,2:23; Rom 12:1; Act 3:21, 1 Cor 7:14; Eph 3:5; Col 1:22 ... humans can be holy ("call no one holy").

"Brothers" of Jesus:
Mary wife of Cleophas and "sister" of the Virgin Mary (Jn 19:25) is the mother of James and Joset (Mk 15:47; Mt 27:56) who are called the "brothers of Jesus" (Mk 6:3).
Acts 1:12-15 ... apostles, Mary, "some women" and Jesus' "brothers" number about 120. That is a lot of "brothers."
Gen 14:14 ... Lot, Abraham's nephew (Gen 11:26-28), described as Abraham's brother (KJV).
Gen 29:15 ... Laban, Jacob's uncle, calls Jacob his "brother" (KJV).
John 19:26-27 ... Jesus gives care of Mary to John, not one of his "brothers."
2 Sam 6:23, Gen 8:7, Dt 34:6 ... "until."

Mary:
Gen 5:24; Heb 11:5; 2 Kings 2:1-13 ... Enoch and Elijah taken to heaven.
Lk 1:28 ... annunciation.
Lk 1:42-48 ... blessed are you among women.
2 Tim 4:8, Jas 1:12, 1 Pet 5:4, Rev 2:10 ... coronation awaits saints.
Jn 2:1-5 ... Mary's intercession.

The Saints:
Mk 12:26-27 ... "not God of the dead, but of the living."
Jn 15:1-8 ... vine and its branches.
1 Cor 12:25-27; Rom 12:4-5 ... body of Christ.
Eph 6:18; Rom 15:30; Col 4:3; 1 Thess 1:11 ... intercessory prayer.
Jos 5:14; Dan 8:17; Tob 12:16 ... veneration of angels united with God (Mt 18:10).
1 Cor 13:12; 1 John 3:2 ... saints also united with God.
Lk 20-34-38 ... those who died are like angels.
2 Mac 15:11-16 ... deceased Onias and Jeremiah interceded for Jews.
Rev 8:3-4; Jer 15:1 ... saints' intercession.

Statues, images and relics:
Ex 25:18-22, 26:1,31; Num 21:8-9 ... God commands images made.
1 Kings 6:23-29, 35, 7:29 ... Solomon's temple: statues and images.
Acts 19:11,12 ... Paul's handkerchiefs and aprons.
2 Kg 13:20-21 ... Elisha's bones.
Acts 5:15-16 ... Peter's shadow.
Mt 9:20-22 ... Jesus' garment cures woman.

Church and authority:
Acts 2:42 ... doctrine, community, sacred rite (bread).
Eph 5:25-26 ... Christ loved the Church.
1 Tim 3:15 ... church is pillar/foundation of truth.
Mt 16:18; 20:20 ... Christ protects Church.
Heb 13:17 ... obey.
Mt 18:17-18 ... church as final authority.
Mt 23:2 ... Pharisees succeeded Moses (seat of Moses).
1 Cor 5:5; 1 Tim 1:20 ... excommunication.

Priesthood and worship:
Acts 1:15-26; 2 Tim 2:2; Tit 1:5 ...unbroken succession.
Acts 15:6,23; 1 Tim 4:14, 5:22; 1 Tim 5:17; Jas 5:13-15 ... presbyters/elders (priests) were ordained, preached and taught the flock, administered sacraments.
Lk 16:24; Rom 4; 1 Cor 4:14-15; Acts 7:2; 1 Thess 2:11; 1 Jn 2:13-14 ... "call no one father"?
1 Cor 7:7-9 ... Paul unmarried.
Mt 19:12; 1 Cor 7:32,33 ... celibacy.
Gen 14:18; Ps 110:4; Heb 7:1-17 ... Melchizedek.
Rev 4:8 ... "vain repetition"?
1 Kg 8:54; 2 Chr 6:13; Ezra 9:5; Mt 17:14; Lk 5:8 ... kneeling.
Rev 8:3-4 ... incense.
1 Cor 12 ... different roles of members of body.

Justification:
1 Jn 1:7, 2 Pet 1:9 ... purified from sins.
Jn 1:29, Heb 9:26-28 ... takes away sin.
Ps 50:3, Ps 102:12, Is 43:25 ... blot out, clear away sin.
Rom 2:13, Rom 3:20 ... future justification.
Heb 11:8...Gen 12:1-4; Rom 4:2-3...Gen 15:6; Jas 2:21-23...Gen 22:1-18 ... justifications of Abraham.
2 Pet 1:4 ... become partakers of the divine nature.

mwdegutis wrote:


1.Will you please provide book, chapter, and verses where the "Hail Mary" is found in the Bible?

2. And will you also please provide book, chapter, and verses where when after Jesus, speaking on what to pray.

3. Jesus said, "And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

4. Jesus said, Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

5. Jesus said Pray then like this:
a. Jesus said, " that He instructed them to pray the rosary?
br br 1.Will you please provide book, chapter, a... (show quote)

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Oct 30, 2017 06:57:18   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Doc110 wrote:
...The Holy Hail Mary prayer: All found in Biblical scripture . . .

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou among women and
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus
Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Show me by book, chapter, and verse where in the Bible THIS prayer is and where Jesus instructs us to pray it- unlike the Our Father which is in Matthew 6: 9-13 and Luke 11:2-4...because cherry-picking like you did doesn't count.

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Oct 30, 2017 07:37:13   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Doc110 wrote:
Dummy Boy,

The "Hail Mary" words are found in the Bible, the "Our Father" prayer are found in the Bible. It's an extension of those prayers.



You didn't provide the scriptural verses of the context.

The only time I've heard it, is during football season.

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Oct 30, 2017 08:04:09   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
mwdegutis,

The only person "Chery-Picking," "Hen-Pecking" and " "Nit-Picking" Catholic Christianity is you.

What ever answer I give too you. It will never suffice, to answer your anti-Catholic Christian doubt.

And will never give you discernment, knowledge and understanding to your unbelief, in sanctity and honor that is given to Mary, the "Mother of God." by many Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic etc. Christian religions and Protestant Christian denominations.

Having said this "Pope" mwdegutis.

a. Who made you the sole religious authority on Christianity ?
b. Who made you Judge, Jury and verdict all wrapped in one to condemn Christian Catholics?
c. By what Christian Teaching authority do you have to pronounce your independent view-points on religious Christian
Biblical authority on the rest of Christendom ?
d. Who gave you your "Religious Teaching Credentials" ? Do you have any "Religious Teaching Credentials." ?

Yeah that's right, your a lone voice, crying out on the internet wilderness and who has an "Ax to Grind" with the Christian Catholic church.

Yeah, I'm finally calling you out, for your dubious personal independent Christian theology.

Your just a vindictive mean spirited little man. Why don't you finally be an adult, and Grow-Up . . .


1. The "Hail Mary," The Rosary" and Sacred Scripture reference's.

a. "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you."
Luke 1:28 "And coming to her, he said, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you."

The Greek kecharitomene means favored by grace, graced. It's tense suggests a permanent state of being "highly favored," thus full of grace. Charity, the divine love within us, comes from the same root. God is infinite Goodness, infinite Love.
Mary is perfect created goodness, filled to the limit of her finite being with grace or charity.

b. "Blessed art thou among women."
Luke 1:41-42a "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy
Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, Most blessed are you among women..."

c. "Behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."
Luke 1:48 "For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."

Among all women is a way to say the highest/greatest etc. of a group in Semitic languages (these words would likely have
been spoken in Aramaic). Mary is being called the greatest of all women, greater than Ruth, greater than Sarah, greater than Eve!

Since Eve was created immaculate (without original sin), Mary must have been conceived immaculate. And, although Eve fell into sin by her own free will, Mary must have corresponded to God's grace and remained sinless. She could not otherwise be greater than Eve. Thus, as the Fathers of the Church unanimously assert, "Mary is the New Eve" who restores womanhood to God's original intention and cooperates with the New Adam, her Son, Jesus Christ for the Redemption and salvation of the world.

d. "Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus"
Luke 1:42b "and blessed is the fruit of your womb."

Jesus is Mary's fruit. Good fruit does not come from anything but a good tree. (Mt. 7:17-18) The all-holy Son of God could not be the fruit of any other tree than the Immaculate Virgin.

e. "Holy Mary, Mother of God"
Luke 1:43 "And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?


Kyrios is the Greek word used by the Jews in the Septuagint Bible (Greek translation) for Yhwh, the Divine Name of God.
In her greeting of Mary, Elizabeth is saying: "How is it that the mother of my God should come to me." Against the heresies of the 4th and 5th centuries which tried to split the Person of Jesus into two, divine and human,
denying one or the other. The Council of Ephesus in 431 AD proclaimed Mary Theotokos (God-bearer, i.e. mother of God).
Jesus is a single Person, a Divine Person, the 2nd Person of the Most Holy Trinity.

To be mother of the Person Jesus is to be mother of a Person who is God. Mary's title protects this truth against errors
which emphasize or deny, either the divinity or humanity of Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

f. "Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death." Amen.
Luke 2:35 "... and you yourself a sword will pierce, so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."

Do whatever he tells you.
John 2:5 "His mother said to the servers, "Do whatever he tells you."

Mary sees a need and appeals to Her Son to satisfy it. He does. We turn to Mary to ask her to intercede with her Son in our daily spiritual and material needs, but especially at the hour of our death.

g. At that moment our salvation hangs in the balance as the devil makes his final foray to deter us from the path to God
(Rev. 2:10). It is not surprising, therefore, that both the Hail Mary and the Our Father conclude with an appeal to be
delivered from the evil one.

The Holy Hail Mary prayer: All found in Biblical scripture . . . It amazing and may not be to your liking, and is referenced from the Bible.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou among women and
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus
Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

There is your scriptural answer's for the "Hail Mary" prayer.

[quote=mwdegutis

1. Show me by book, chapter, and verse where in the Bible this prayer is and where Jesus instructs us to pray it. Unlike the Our Father which is in Matthew 6: 9-13 and Luke 11:2-4...

2. Because cherry-picking like you did doesn't count.

[/quote]

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Oct 30, 2017 08:31:28   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Pope dummy boy,

It's all there, I'm not repeating this answer to dummy boy, your a contemptuous blind anti-Catholic religious hypocrite's.

In your Evangelical contempt, in trying to goad, spur on incitement to the end of your anti-Catholic ranting is dumbfounding.

Finally dummy boy, try to be the adult in the room and not the baying child in the room. Grow-Up . . .

dummy boy,

What ever answer I give too you. It will never suffice, to answer your anti-Catholic Christian doubt.

And will never give you discernment, knowledge and understanding to your unbelief, in sanctity and honor that is given to Mary, the "Mother of God." by all Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic etc. Christian religions and Protestant Christian denominations.

Having said this "Pope" dummy boy.

a. Who made you the sole religious authority on Christianity ?
b. Who made you Judge, Jury and verdict all wrapped in one to condemn Christian Catholics?
c. By what Christian Teaching authority do you have to pronounce your independent view-points on religious Christian
Biblical authority on the rest of Christendom ?
d. Who gave you your "Religious Teaching Credentials" ? Do you have any "Religious Teaching Credentials." ?

Yeah that's right, your the second lone voice, crying out on the internet wilderness and who has an "Ax to Grind" with the Christian Catholic church.

Yeah, I'm finally calling you out, for your dubious personal independent Christian theology.

Your just a vindictive mean spirited little man. Why don't you finally be an adult, and Grow-Up . . .


1. The "Hail Mary," The Rosary" and Sacred Scripture reference's.

a. "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you."
Luke 1:28 "And coming to her, he said, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you."

The Greek kecharitomene means favored by grace, graced. It's tense suggests a permanent state of being "highly favored," thus full of grace. Charity, the divine love within us, comes from the same root. God is infinite Goodness, infinite Love.
Mary is perfect created goodness, filled to the limit of her finite being with grace or charity.

b. "Blessed art thou among women."
Luke 1:41-42a "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy
Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, Most blessed are you among women..."

c. "Behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."
Luke 1:48 "For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."

Among all women is a way to say the highest/greatest etc. of a group in Semitic languages (these words would likely have
been spoken in Aramaic). Mary is being called the greatest of all women, greater than Ruth, greater than Sarah, greater than Eve!

Since Eve was created immaculate (without original sin), Mary must have been conceived immaculate. And, although Eve fell into sin by her own free will, Mary must have corresponded to God's grace and remained sinless. She could not otherwise be greater than Eve. Thus, as the Fathers of the Church unanimously assert, "Mary is the New Eve" who restores womanhood to God's original intention and cooperates with the New Adam, her Son, Jesus Christ for the Redemption and salvation of the world.

d. "Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus"
Luke 1:42b "and blessed is the fruit of your womb."

Jesus is Mary's fruit. Good fruit does not come from anything but a good tree. (Mt. 7:17-18) The all-holy Son of God could not be the fruit of any other tree than the Immaculate Virgin.

e. "Holy Mary, Mother of God"
Luke 1:43 "And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Kyrios is the Greek word used by the Jews in the Septuagint Bible (Greek translation) for Yhwh, the Divine Name of God.
In her greeting of Mary, Elizabeth is saying: "How is it that the mother of my God should come to me." Against the heresies of the 4th and 5th centuries which tried to split the Person of Jesus into two, divine and human,
denying one or the other. The Council of Ephesus in 431 AD proclaimed Mary Theotokos (God-bearer, i.e. mother of God).
Jesus is a single Person, a Divine Person, the 2nd Person of the Most Holy Trinity.

To be mother of the Person Jesus is to be mother of a Person who is God. Mary's title protects this truth against errors
which emphasize or deny, either the divinity or humanity of Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

f. "Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death." Amen.
Luke 2:35 "... and you yourself a sword will pierce, so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."

Do whatever he tells you.
John 2:5 "His mother said to the servers, "Do whatever he tells you."

Mary sees a need and appeals to Her Son to satisfy it. He does. We turn to Mary to ask her to intercede with her Son in our daily spiritual and material needs, but especially at the hour of our death.

g. At that moment our salvation hangs in the balance as the devil makes his final foray to deter us from the path to God
(Rev. 2:10). It is not surprising, therefore, that both the Hail Mary and the Our Father conclude with an appeal to be
delivered from the evil one.

The Holy Hail Mary prayer: All found in Biblical scripture . . . It amazing and may not be to your liking, and is referenced from the Bible.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou among women and
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus
Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

There is your scriptural answer's for the "Hail Mary" prayer.

[quote=mwdegutis

1. Show me by book, chapter, and verse where in the Bible this prayer is and where Jesus instructs us to pray it. Unlike the Our Father which is in Matthew 6: 9-13 and Luke 11:2-4...

2. Because cherry-picking like you did doesn't count.
[/quote]

Dummy Boy wrote:
You didn't provide the scriptural verses of the context.

The only time I've heard it, is during football season.

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Oct 30, 2017 09:35:10   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Doc110 wrote:
Pope dummy boy,

It's all there, I'm not repeating this answer to dummy boy, your a contemptuous blind anti-Catholic religious hypocrite's.

In your Evangelical contempt, in trying to goad, spur on incitement to the end of your anti-Catholic ranting is dumbfounding.

Finally dummy boy, try to be the adult in the room and not the baying child in the room. Grow-Up . . .

dummy boy,

What ever answer I give too you. It will never suffice, to answer your anti-Catholic Christian doubt.

And will never give you discernment, knowledge and understanding to your unbelief, in sanctity and honor that is given to Mary, the "Mother of God." by all Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic etc. Christian religions and Protestant Christian denominations.

Having said this "Pope" dummy boy.

a. Who made you the sole religious authority on Christianity ?
b. Who made you Judge, Jury and verdict all wrapped in one to condemn Christian Catholics?
c. By what Christian Teaching authority do you have to pronounce your independent view-points on religious Christian
Biblical authority on the rest of Christendom ?
d. Who gave you your "Religious Teaching Credentials" ? Do you have any "Religious Teaching Credentials." ?

Yeah that's right, your the second lone voice, crying out on the internet wilderness and who has an "Ax to Grind" with the Christian Catholic church.

Yeah, I'm finally calling you out, for your dubious personal independent Christian theology.

Your just a vindictive mean spirited little man. Why don't you finally be an adult, and Grow-Up . . .


1. The "Hail Mary," The Rosary" and Sacred Scripture reference's.

a. "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you."
Luke 1:28 "And coming to her, he said, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you."

The Greek kecharitomene means favored by grace, graced. It's tense suggests a permanent state of being "highly favored," thus full of grace. Charity, the divine love within us, comes from the same root. God is infinite Goodness, infinite Love.
Mary is perfect created goodness, filled to the limit of her finite being with grace or charity.

b. "Blessed art thou among women."
Luke 1:41-42a "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy
Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, Most blessed are you among women..."

c. "Behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."
Luke 1:48 "For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed."

Among all women is a way to say the highest/greatest etc. of a group in Semitic languages (these words would likely have
been spoken in Aramaic). Mary is being called the greatest of all women, greater than Ruth, greater than Sarah, greater than Eve!

Since Eve was created immaculate (without original sin), Mary must have been conceived immaculate. And, although Eve fell into sin by her own free will, Mary must have corresponded to God's grace and remained sinless. She could not otherwise be greater than Eve. Thus, as the Fathers of the Church unanimously assert, "Mary is the New Eve" who restores womanhood to God's original intention and cooperates with the New Adam, her Son, Jesus Christ for the Redemption and salvation of the world.

d. "Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus"
Luke 1:42b "and blessed is the fruit of your womb."

Jesus is Mary's fruit. Good fruit does not come from anything but a good tree. (Mt. 7:17-18) The all-holy Son of God could not be the fruit of any other tree than the Immaculate Virgin.

e. "Holy Mary, Mother of God"
Luke 1:43 "And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Kyrios is the Greek word used by the Jews in the Septuagint Bible (Greek translation) for Yhwh, the Divine Name of God.
In her greeting of Mary, Elizabeth is saying: "How is it that the mother of my God should come to me." Against the heresies of the 4th and 5th centuries which tried to split the Person of Jesus into two, divine and human,
denying one or the other. The Council of Ephesus in 431 AD proclaimed Mary Theotokos (God-bearer, i.e. mother of God).
Jesus is a single Person, a Divine Person, the 2nd Person of the Most Holy Trinity.

To be mother of the Person Jesus is to be mother of a Person who is God. Mary's title protects this truth against errors
which emphasize or deny, either the divinity or humanity of Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

f. "Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death." Amen.
Luke 2:35 "... and you yourself a sword will pierce, so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."

Do whatever he tells you.
John 2:5 "His mother said to the servers, "Do whatever he tells you."

Mary sees a need and appeals to Her Son to satisfy it. He does. We turn to Mary to ask her to intercede with her Son in our daily spiritual and material needs, but especially at the hour of our death.

g. At that moment our salvation hangs in the balance as the devil makes his final foray to deter us from the path to God
(Rev. 2:10). It is not surprising, therefore, that both the Hail Mary and the Our Father conclude with an appeal to be
delivered from the evil one.

The Holy Hail Mary prayer: All found in Biblical scripture . . . It amazing and may not be to your liking, and is referenced from the Bible.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou among women and
Blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus
Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

There is your scriptural answer's for the "Hail Mary" prayer.
Pope dummy boy, br br It's all there, I'm not rep... (show quote)


I just read you're responses, it's trivial interpretations of Greek. It is expressly outlined in scripture in any tangible way....

Tell me do you spin records backwards listening for messages.

Tell me, why would God not make himself approachable, if he needs our love and adoration?

I don't have a secret handshake with my wife, why would I need one with God?

And I'm sure you've been using your Rosary to stop me, my my....it is soooooo powerful.

No where does Jesus say pray to his mother so she can pray to you, so Jesus can go to God for everyone's transgressions.

NO WHERE.

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Oct 30, 2017 13:47:35   #
Doc110 Loc: York PA
 
Pope dummy boy,

What ever Christian answer I give too you in regards to Mary, the Rosary, eg, the Pope.

It, will never suffice, to answer your anti-Catholic Christian dis-belief and doubt to "Mary, The Mother of God."

And the role that she gave to God, to her Son Jesus Christ, to the Apostles and for all Christendom, by her action's, to accept God's chalice of "Yes" and acceptance." "Let It Be Done According to Your Word." When Mary answered the ArcAngel Gabriel.

Dummy boy and mwdegutis, ponder those biblical words.

From Mary's infancy to her death it was ordained by God. There are Marian-Apparitions that can't be explained, but you dismiss these existences as heretical from your viewpoint.

How dare you hypocrites continue to "Insult, Degrade" the Christian memory of Mary the "Mother of Our Lord" and Savior Jesus Christ.


Your new Evangelical Anti-Catholic comments, really don't matter anymore and you and don't count anymore.

Your heretical voices and comments are chaff in the wind, they don't exist anymore.


Now you present a convoluted fallacy argument, a "Straw-Man," "Red-Herring," Fallacy-Idiom, with your new latest and greatest, comment's and, and anti-Catholic statements.

You've just "Raised the Bar," and or "Re-Set the Marian-belief, "Hail Mary" and Rosary prayer "Goal-Post."

It's your new "Got-Yeah moment. In your latest comments, you digress and now say, "It's A Trivial Interpretations Of Greek."

"Oh really, now." What a hard unbelievable compost lie . . .

Stand up and take a bow dummy boy, on that gratuitous lying response, you've out-done yourself, unbelievable.


I say Compost too you, deep down in your heart, soul and mind it's inaccurate, wrong to say these things. Your just a Christian bigot.

You have EXACTLY what Jesus said, . . . "The Log, . . . In The Eye Disease," . . . and have religious anti-Christian biasses’s.


How predictable of you. . . and expected, and to hear, your new Anti-Catholic responses.

You should be ashamed of your action's, . . . But your not . . . ashamed of your evil and hatred towards me, the Catholic church and to Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.


And your going to continue to play this, "One-Up-Manship" Evangelical Christian, "Fool's-Game.

The only fool's here on this OPP Forum is you "Pope dummy boy and mwdegutis.

You will be blocked from now on, on the OPP Forum, because of your continued disingenuous anti-Catholic insults and actions . . .

Your just an insincere Christian, that promotes this fake-evil dialogue, and comments and pretend to be practicing Evangelicals.


Pope dummy boy, and mwdegutis, your religious and morally wrong and Evangelically disingenuous.

In other words your a sore looser's, in your evangelical theology belief system's.

Your just hypocrite's, Bigoted and evil Evangelical Christian.


You have been given an "Hail Mary" answer. And why Catholic Christians pray the Rosary. It's a very powerful Prayer in Christianity . . .

You have been shown where Hail Mary is found in scripture and historical context in Catholic Christian Theology.


But to no avail, you reject all Christian teaching on this matter, of 1985 years, since Jesus Christ has founded his One "True Catholic Church.

So I counter and reject your charlatan heretical, your so-called Christian Evangelical belief and theology.

That there is no reference by Jesus Christ, found in the Bible and scripturally, as to your Evangelical teaching and and your "Sola Scriptura" belief.

You don't exist ?


Sadly, I for one, will not continue to play the religious Evangelical Protestant, "hate-game" that you play.

You have been answered as the validity and Biblical origin's, found in Scripture, of the "Hail Mary Prayer." and the Rosary.

Catholics have developed a Rosary prayer, crucifix and prayer beads signifying the prayer's intent, the Joyful, Sorrowful, Glorious and Luminous Mysteries, from the Bible, that venerates Jesus Christ memories and honors Mary, "The Mother of God."

God, will never give you religious discernment, knowledge and understanding as to your unbelief, and how catholics give sanctity and honor to Mary, the "Mother of God." This is observed by all Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic etc. Christian religions and Protestant Christian denominations from the 1st century A.D. .

Having said this "Pope" dummy boy.

a. Who made you the sole religious teaching authority on Christianity ? And what is allowed and what is not allowed by Jesus Christ . . . ?
b. Who made you Judge, Jury and verdict, all wrapped in one, to condemn Christian Catholics with your opinions and statements ?
c. By what Christian Biblical teaching authority do you have to pronounce your own independent view-points on religious Christian Catholic's on the rest of Christendom ?
d. Who gave you your "Religious Teaching Credentials" ? Do even you have any "Religious Teaching Credentials." ?

Yeah that's right, your the second lone voice, crying out on the internet wilderness, and who has an "Ax to Grind" with the Christian Catholic church.

Yeah, I'm finally calling you out, for your dubious personal Christian theology, your just false teachers of Jesus Christ.

Hell will be a nice place for you both to share.


Sadly your just a vindictive mean spirited little man. Why don't you finally be an adult, and Grow-Up . . .

1. False Teachers in the Church Today, a previous posted article. Heed the biblical warnings, mwdegutis and dummy boy.
https://www.challies.com/articles/7-false-teachers-in-the-church-today/
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-115849-1.html

1. The Heretic: (2 Peter 2:1) and (Jude 1:3).
2. The Charlatan: (1 Timothy 6:3-5) and (Acts 8:9-24).
3. The Prophet: (1 John 4:1) and (Revelation 22:18-19).
4. The Abuser: (2 Peter 2:2) and (Jude 4)
5. The Divider: (Jude 18-21), (Galatians 5:22) and Ephesians 4:3)
6. The Tickler: (2 Timothy 4:3-4) and (Jeremiah 6:14)
7. The Speculator: (Hebrews 13:9) and (1 Timothy 1:3)


Dummy Boy wrote:


I just read you're responses, it's trivial interpretations of Greek. It is expressly outlined in scripture in any tangible way....

Tell me do you spin records backwards listening for messages.

Tell me, why would God not make himself approachable, if he needs our love and adoration?

I don't have a secret handshake with my wife, why would I need one with God?

And I'm sure you've been using your Rosary to stop me, my my....it is soooooo powerful.

No where does Jesus say pray to his mother so she can pray to you, so Jesus can go to God for everyone's transgressions.

NO WHERE.
br br I just read you're responses, it's trivial... (show quote)

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