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Revised Comparison of Conservative Values versus the Left's Values
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Oct 10, 2017 17:04:33   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Manning345 wrote:
Conservative....................................................The Left
01.Belief in God & Christianity........................Belief in State and Man, not God
02.Faith, Hope & Charity...............................Nihilism, Welfare
03.Prudence................................................Imprudence
04.Temperance............................................Intemperance
05.Justice....................................................Injustice
06.Fortitude................................................Weakness
07.Honest...................................................Dishonest
08.For Democracy and the Republic................For Revolution to Socialism, Temporary
09.For the Constitution.................................For Elite Rule & Communism
10.Constructive...........................................Destructive
11.Respect for the Office of President.............Clamoring for Impeachment
12.Truth-Telling...........................................Evasions and Lies
13.For the People.........................................For the State
14.For Peace, Happiness, & Freedom..............For Revolution & Transformation
15.For Effective Controlled Change.................For Immediate Radical Change
16.For Order and Discipline...........................For Chaos and Aids to Revolution
17.For Smaller Government..........................For Large Controlling Government
18.Thinks of Past, Present and Future............Thinks of Today
19.For the Right to Life................................For Choice of Abortion
20For a Free Economy................................For Redistribution of Wealth
21.Judicial Fidelity.......................................For Judicial Activism
22.For Jobs................................................For Handouts, Dependency
23.For Free Markets....................................For Socialism, Then Communism
24.For Free Flow of Legislation.....................For Obstruction of Legislation
25.For the Second Amendment....................For Confiscation of Guns
26.For Positive Action.................................For Meaningless Talk-Talk
27.For Charity ...........................................For Special Government Handouts
28.For Comity and Congeniality...................For Ad Hominem Attacks
29.For the Citizens.....................................For the So-Called Elites
30.For Legal Immigration ...........................For Illegal Immigration and Amnesty
31.For Military Strength.............................For Military Reductions
32.For Nuclear Retaliation and MAD.............For Nuclear Disarmament
33.For Christian Marriage ...........................For Same Sex Marriage
34.For States Rights..................................For All Powerful Central Government
35.For Verbal Clarity..................................For Verbal Verbosity
36.Natural Demeanor................................Totally Smug and Nasty Grins
37.Reserved, Factual and Polite..................Angry, Denying and Jarring
38.Tends to Avoid Legal Action...................Sues at the Drop of a Hat-(ACLU!)
39.A Goal of Tolerance..............................Intolerant, Especially of Christians
40.For Proper Crisis Management............... Takes Opportunity to Benefit from Crises
41.For Useful Critiques..............................For Damaging the Administration
42.For Custom & Tradition.........................Challenges Custom and Tradition
43.For Current Institutions & Mediators.......Challenges our Institutions
44.For Practical & Beneficial Steps..............Ridicules the Proposals
45.For Reliable Citizens.............................Produces Unreliable Citizens
46.For Best Education K12 & College ..........For Damaging Socialistic Education
47.For American Culture ..........................For Multicultural Diversity
48.For Clear Straight Talk..........................For Politically Correct Usage
49.For Absolute Morality............................For Moral Relativity

Thus:

Sane and Balanced.............................Deliberately Unbalanced
.........................................................With Malice Aforethought
b Conservative...................................... (show quote)



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Oct 10, 2017 17:06:53   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And the reality is!!!!!


That post only justifies our belief that you live in a reverse reality more, often then naught,than the common folk.

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Oct 10, 2017 17:08:18   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
It is time to put away childish things!


Such as your false quotes and false beliefs.

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Oct 10, 2017 17:14:46   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
And certainly Einstein is a reputable thinker on the existence of God. After 6,000,000 Jews were killed in WWII, what Jew could believe in God?


That evil can only be equated to the evil done by the devil and his disciple's. It does not equate to the loving God I know and love. If they really believed in God they would know, our Lord and Savior, Jesus, would never wish that on any of Gods creations. Einstein was an atheist so that post is irrelevant.

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Oct 10, 2017 17:19:09   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
working class stiff wrote:
No, it means that you can't accept answers that don't follow your prejudices. Start with God and church....strawman: only conservatives believe in God and attend church.
Reality: many liberals attend church and are Christians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Christianity

Naturally, we could go through the whole straw castle and wreck every room. But what would be the point?


Attending ones church of choice does not mean they are Christians. Real Christians think of others before their own gains and pray for those that do not believe in the Lord.

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Oct 10, 2017 17:23:39   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
working class stiff wrote:
Maybe you make a distinction about the various gradations of liberalism....most folks here don't. What I am is an American liberal.


Please explain what an American liberal believes. I have never heard that expression being used before now.

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Oct 10, 2017 17:59:15   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Louie27 wrote:
Please explain what an American liberal believes. I have never heard that expression being used before now.


It means many things. First, it means I am an American. Though conservatives seem to think patriotism only belongs to them, I would beg to differ.

I am a liberal because I think the Founders gave the American people a form of government to use for the general welfare. I do not view the government, whether state or federal, as an enemy of the freedoms we hold dear.
I see it as an instrument for use (or misuse in some cases) by the American people.

I also know the gov't can be abused, and that the American people can make errors (through their representatives), but those errors can also be corrected also, and usually are.

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Oct 10, 2017 18:45:53   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
It is time to put away childish things!


http://spaceandmotion.com/albert-einstein-god-religion-theology.htm These are Einstein's actual words on God. Your quote seems to be missing.

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Oct 10, 2017 20:35:37   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
working class stiff wrote:
It means many things. First, it means I am an American. Though conservatives seem to think patriotism only belongs to them, I would beg to differ.

I am a liberal because I think the Founders gave the American people a form of government to use for the general welfare. I do not view the government, whether state or federal, as an enemy of the freedoms we hold dear.
I see it as an instrument for use (or misuse in some cases) by the American people.

I also know the gov't can be abused, and that the American people can make errors (through their representatives), but those errors can also be corrected also, and usually are.
It means many things. First, it means I am an Am... (show quote)


Damn sure the American people made a mistake in the previous 2 elections.
As US citizens we do have the freedom to do something stupid on election day.
Something liberals are desperately trying to eliminate.
Gov't can be abused although last 8 years government was doing abusing to the max.

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Oct 10, 2017 23:28:57   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
working class stiff wrote:
It means many things. First, it means I am an American. Though conservatives seem to think patriotism only belongs to them, I would beg to differ.

I am a liberal because I think the Founders gave the American people a form of government to use for the general welfare. I do not view the government, whether state or federal, as an enemy of the freedoms we hold dear.
I see it as an instrument for use (or misuse in some cases) by the American people.

I also know the gov't can be abused, and that the American people can make errors (through their representatives), but those errors can also be corrected also, and usually are.
It means many things. First, it means I am an Am... (show quote)


Your liberal position seems to be too general to predict how you would react, vote or even understand your positions on, say, the 49 positions I posted for conservatives vs Leftists. How about you posting your answers to the whole set? Otherwise, at least I do not really understand your Liberalism at all.

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Oct 11, 2017 13:14:12   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
In order to clarify where I received the statements I made in the table, here is a short list of the sources I used. In fact, I actually used over 200 books from my personal library, but the following are sufficient:

This comparison is based on a number of sources, including: The KJV of the Bible; The Conservative Encyclopedia; The Humanist Manifestoes I,II and 2000; The National Platforms of the Socialist Party(multiple years); The Communist Manifesto; and a series of books and papers: Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky; The Cloward/Piven Strategy; The Works of Antonio Gramsci; How Now Shall We Live by Charles Colson; The Snapping of the American Mind by David Kupelian, Understanding the Times by Jeff Meyers and David Noebel; The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk, and many others.

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