Revised Comparison of Conservative Values versus the Left's Values (Page 2): That would be your common sense telling you that. Why should we respond to this straw castle built by...

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

JFlorio wrote:

Something tells me you won't get much from the left crowd here on OPP.

That would be your common sense telling you that. Why should we respond to this straw castle built by strawmen?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

working class stiff wrote:

That would be your common sense telling you that. Why should we respond to this straw castle built by strawmen?

In other words you can’t deny any of the conclusions. Figures.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

JFlorio wrote:

In other words you can’t deny any of the conclusions. Figures.

No, it means that you can't accept answers that don't follow your prejudices. Start with God and church....strawman: only conservatives believe in God and attend church.
Reality: many liberals attend church and are Christians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Christianity

Naturally, we could go through the whole straw castle and wreck every room. But what would be the point?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You didn’t comprehend the thread and I also made a mistake. The thread compared Conservatives and the left. I don’t believe liberals and the left are the same thing even though I said I would like to debate a liberal acquaintance using that list. Said acquaintance is really a leftist. My bad.

working class stiff wrote:

No, it means that you can't accept answers that don't follow your prejudices. Start with God and church....strawman: only conservatives believe in God and attend church.
Reality: many liberals attend church and are Christians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Christianity

Naturally, we could go through the whole straw castle and wreck every room. But what would be the point?

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

The essence of the comparison is how each side explains or demonstrates itself to the general public taken from the multiple leader's verbal and printed words of each side, their worldview so to speak, and most definitely not the full spectrum of variegated opinions one would likely find from minions and pseudo authorities, or dyed-in-the-wool fanatics on the fringes, or especially those that are themselves practitioners of the more negative aspects of the many elements. That lot would have a strong motive to attempt to slash and burn the comparisons, or to try to ignore them.

The other comment can be directed at challenges to just one or two
of the elements: it is an ancient trick to attempt to destroy a lengthy viewpoint by finding one little difficulty in the view and using that to reject the entire thing. In this comparison, that trick simply doesn't work, since the authenticity of each element can be
shown to be representative of the truth on the Left, and the summation across the elements speaks for itself. One could almost recreate the chart using just the Bible and the several published Manifestos of the opposition: Humanist, Socialist and Marxist.

There is one challenge, that of many Liberals also being Christian, which puts them largely as straddling the middle, and is simply not taken up in this comparison of Conservatives with true Leftists of the humanistic, socialistic, communistic variety that are quite atheistic in their outlook.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

And the reality is!!!!!

Almost none correct.

KiraSeer2016

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

Wrong again! Trumps statement had nothing to do the Jewish slaughter by Hitler. In a letter just before his death he wrote in response to another author "For me the Jewish religion like all religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstition! Einstein like all intelligent people realize that all religions are fictitious!

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/10/word-god-is-product-of-human-weakness.html

Your lack of human nature is showing again. You really are a waste of my time, but perhaps more rational people, such as Richard C. Dawkins, will understand. Well, actually he does, as I have talked to him about it.

Radiance3

Manning345 wrote:

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Those are the facts. The differences between Conservative and the Left/Liberals
Some more -the psychology of the left. Turbulent, violent, destructive.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

JFlorio wrote:

You didn’t comprehend the thread and I also made a mistake. The thread compared Conservatives and the left. I don’t believe liberals and the left are the same thing even though I said I would like to debate a liberal acquaintance using that list. Said acquaintance is really a leftist. My bad.

What's to comprehend? It's not that difficult....conservatives are little angels and liberals are the offspring of satan. Isn't that the gist?

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

working class stiff wrote:

What's to comprehend? It's not that difficult....conservatives are little angels and liberals are the offspring of satan. Isn't that the gist?

Precisely, but only if you are referring to Leftwingers! You have a different definition of the scope of Left versus Liberal than I do. Or are you a Humanist, a Socialist or a Communist?

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Manning345 wrote:

Precisely, but only if you are referring to Leftwingers! You have a different definition of the scope of Left versus Liberal than I do. Or are you a Humanist, a Socialist or a Communist?

Maybe you make a distinction about the various gradations of liberalism....most folks here don't. What I am is an American liberal.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

KiraSeer2016 wrote:

And certainly Einstein is a reputable thinker on the existence of God. After 6,000,000 Jews were killed in WWII, what Jew could believe in God?

The Hebrews/Jews, were enslaved in Egypt for quite a while. I wonder how many died at the hands of the Egyptians?

Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia

working class stiff wrote:

Maybe you make a distinction about the various gradations of liberalism....most folks here don't. What I am is an American liberal.

Well, I do make a clear distinction between those who are Liberal, and those who are Humanist, Socialist or Communist in their worldview. Being a left of center Democrat and being a Christian is a position I can respect, but throw in those other worldviews and I do not respect them. I might add that I feel the same for truly rightwing nuts.

Radiance3

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

And the reality is!!!!!

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Wolfe, yours is a 180 degree reversal of facts. A masterpiece of all liberals like you are. You are throwing away your garbage
to your good neighbors, and blame them. Typical stinky people. That is why I want to be far away from your kind because they smell really so toxic and intrusive that permeates the air all over.

bggamers Loc: georgia

Raylan Wolfe wrote:

It is time to put away childish things!

The thing is when he was alive there wasnt much proof of Jesus as there is now they are now using the bible like a map to help them find sites and have found it quit reliable and factual.