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Just how intelligent is the Intelligent Designer?
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Sep 21, 2017 02:17:05   #
okie don
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Hmmm
7 colors in rainbow; 7 notes on musical scale; 7 days in week; 7 continents; 7 oceans; 7 days in week; 7 wonders of the world;
2X7=14 a female can be impregnated; 4 x 7= 28 days female has cleansing cycle; 7 x 7= age 49 female goes thru menopause.
7 also plays a role in eggs hatching chickens, ducks, geese { have to find notes } but all develop and hatch in multiples of 7 days...
There is an " Intelligent Designer' as this can't all be a co-incidence. hence 7 is referred to as ' the perfect number'

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Sep 21, 2017 08:46:58   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
I am a Christian, yet the "last days" shtick has been around forever, and is theologically indefensible. The rapture concept was invented in the early 19th century, and thus is just a pious fiction. God doesn't need gimmicks. I do not believe in hell because that is inconsistent with who God is. Apart from that, all we can do is try to be the best we can and hope for the best.

Although you claim to be a "Christian," it would appear that you are not a biblically sound true follower of Jesus Christ by what you just said.

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Sep 21, 2017 09:06:10   #
Kevyn
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What if the Intelligent Designer is just some mutli-dimensional monkey who is on the same level with other members of his "continuum" as an amoeba is to humans??

Dear Lord, I like bananas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You realize that you are attempting to reason with folks who think the end of the world is upon us and that if they only believe hard enough god will fly them off into the sky while making those left behind really miserable. At about seven years old little kids realize that it is unlikely sleighs and reindeer fly and even if they did they couldn't hit every house in the world in one night and that most of the houses don't have chimneys a morbidly obese elf could slide down. Further critical thinking makes them suspect that the naughty and nice thing might just be an adult conspiracy to leverage less enjoyable behavior. Most go along with the deception for a few years figuring as long as the piles of loot show up under the tree why put a good thing at risk. You would think a similar transformation would take place amongst those subject to tent revivals, tung talking, snake handling and swimming hole baptisms but it doesn't. They have invested too much of their time in the fire and brimstone, end of days and rapture speal and sadly they have been programmed that the worst thing possible more terrible than murder is to question or investigate their faith.

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Sep 21, 2017 09:25:17   #
Kazudy
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Although you claim to be a "Christian," it would appear that you are not a biblically sound true follower of Jesus Christ by what you just said.


Hm, if Kemmer is a Christian, either he does not believe the Bible, or has not read it.

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Sep 21, 2017 09:51:07   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Kevyn wrote:
You realize that you are attempting to reason with folks who think the end of the world is upon us and that if they only believe hard enough god will fly them off into the sky while making those left behind really miserable. At about seven years old little kids realize that it is unlikely sleighs and reindeer fly and even if they did they couldn't hit every house in the world in one night and that most of the houses don't have chimneys a morbidly obese elf could slide down. Further critical thinking makes them suspect that the naughty and nice thing might just be an adult conspiracy to leverage less enjoyable behavior. Most go along with the deception for a few years figuring as long as the piles of loot show up under the tree why put a good thing at risk. You would think a similar transformation would take place amongst those subject to tent revivals, tung talking, snake handling and swimming hole baptisms but it doesn't. They have invested too much of their time in the fire and brimstone, end of days and rapture speal and sadly they have been programmed that the worst thing possible more terrible than murder is to question or investigate their faith.
You realize that you are attempting to reason with... (show quote)

Have your "fun"...for now.

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Sep 21, 2017 11:02:28   #
Sicilianthing
 
okie don wrote:
7 colors in rainbow; 7 notes on musical scale; 7 days in week; 7 continents; 7 oceans; 7 days in week; 7 wonders of the world;
2X7=14 a female can be impregnated; 4 x 7= 28 days female has cleansing cycle; 7 x 7= age 49 female goes thru menopause.
7 also plays a role in eggs hatching chickens, ducks, geese { have to find notes } but all develop and hatch in multiples of 7 days...
There is an " Intelligent Designer' as this can't all be a co-incidence. hence 7 is referred to as ' the perfect number'
7 colors in rainbow; 7 notes on musical scale; 7 d... (show quote)


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oh Wow I did not know all that... but only a few... Way Cool Don... Thank You...

I'm going to pass that on, yes it seems we have not cracked the mathematical code of the Universe, as it may very well be an Extra Terrestrial Computer program gone bad with Viruses.... who knows, in the meantime I'll keep my faith in the Lord my Christian God.

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Sep 21, 2017 11:03:12   #
Sicilianthing
 
Kazudy wrote:
Hm, if Kemmer is a Christian, either he does not believe the Bible, or has not read it.


>>>>>>>>

Kemmer is most likely Muslim.

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Sep 21, 2017 11:10:53   #
kemmer
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Although you claim to be a "Christian," it would appear that you are not a biblically sound true follower of Jesus Christ by what you just said.


"Christian" is the key word here; believer and follower of Christ. I don't feel bound or obligated to the beliefs of 2nd century BC Jews---or to those invented by the rash of 19th century pseudo-Christian redhots.

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Sep 21, 2017 11:18:43   #
kemmer
 
Kazudy wrote:
Hm, if Kemmer is a Christian, either he does not believe the Bible, or has not read it.


If you believe [u]everything]/u] you read, I'm sorry but that's on you; but then you have no business ragging on Muslims who believe the outdated stuff in their Q'uran.

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Sep 21, 2017 13:29:40   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Hmmm


It's a rhetorical question.

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Sep 21, 2017 14:13:30   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
"Christian" is the key word here; believer and follower of Christ. I don't feel bound or obligated to the beliefs of 2nd century BC Jews---or to those invented by the rash of 19th century pseudo-Christian redhots.

Just because you're "Christian" doesn't necessarily mean that you are a true follower of Jesus Christ.

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Sep 21, 2017 14:39:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Just because you're "Christian" doesn't necessarily mean that you are a true follower of Jesus Christ.


I might add that just because one believes the bible is literally the word of God doesn't mean one is, either.

Just say'in, not insult'in!

If one follows the tenant, " Treat others the way you wish to be treated" , isn't that true Christianity, the Gospel in a nutshell, so to speak? I know many non-believers who practice that to a very great degree.

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Sep 21, 2017 15:08:56   #
kemmer
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Just because you're "Christian" doesn't necessarily mean that you are a true follower of Jesus Christ.


Why don't we let God decide that, shall we?
Some "Christians" say Catholics are pagans and the pope is Antichrist.

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Sep 21, 2017 15:19:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
You realize that you are attempting to reason with folks who think the end of the world is upon us and that if they only believe hard enough god will fly them off into the sky while making those left behind really miserable. At about seven years old little kids realize that it is unlikely sleighs and reindeer fly and even if they did they couldn't hit every house in the world in one night and that most of the houses don't have chimneys a morbidly obese elf could slide down. Further critical thinking makes them suspect that the naughty and nice thing might just be an adult conspiracy to leverage less enjoyable behavior. Most go along with the deception for a few years figuring as long as the piles of loot show up under the tree why put a good thing at risk. You would think a similar transformation would take place amongst those subject to tent revivals, tung talking, snake handling and swimming hole baptisms but it doesn't. They have invested too much of their time in the fire and brimstone, end of days and rapture speal and sadly they have been programmed that the worst thing possible more terrible than murder is to question or investigate their faith.
You realize that you are attempting to reason with... (show quote)


If I agree with you, my conservative friends will crucify me.

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Sep 21, 2017 15:26:22   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If I agree with you, my conservative friends will crucify me.

If they were truly your friends, would they "crucify" you

BTW, you're okay by me. Nwtk.

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