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Sep 18, 2017 03:32:27   #
Mr Bombastic
 
He may be brilliant, but he's dead wrong.

http://www.icr.org/article/hawking-says-universe-created-itself/

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Sep 18, 2017 03:33:01   #
DamnYANKEE
 
He's an Edumacated IDIOT

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Sep 18, 2017 05:24:06   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
must be his "from dust to dust" theory. ..lol

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Sep 18, 2017 05:27:50   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:


How brilliant can he be?

I'd place him on Al Gore's level.

Romans 1:19-20: "For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.

So they are without excuse."

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Sep 18, 2017 06:38:28   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:

well wonder where he will go when he pass'es away since he dont think god has anything to do with our creation

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Sep 18, 2017 06:39:35   #
Mr Bombastic
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
well wonder where he will go when he pass'es away since he dont think god has anything to do with our creation


I can't help wondering if his attitude is because he blames God for his condition. He wouldn't be the first one.

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Sep 18, 2017 06:39:44   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:


For a true believer, Atheism requires more blind faith than Christianity.

To believe this latest Godless Creationist jibberish you have to squat and grunt until your brains shoot out your butt.

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Sep 18, 2017 07:03:20   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
Zemirah wrote:
How brilliant can he be?

I'd place him on Al Gore's level.

Romans 1:19-20: "For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.

So they are without excuse."

What pride, it requires a tremendous act of a willful soul to place ones self above God. Scary. Personally would not want to be in a universe without Gods Love and guidance. His wheelchair is balanced on the edge of the eternal abyss.

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Sep 18, 2017 07:27:08   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
Ooooooo heeeeeees sooooooo ssmmaarrtt 😃

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Sep 18, 2017 08:46:35   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:


Interesting, your article makes the same argument which I used in your post "Refute This" . Here it is again:

The material world is enmeshed in cause and effect. There is no effect without a cause and to contemplate ultimate cause in the material universe requires infinite regression, which is an impossibility. At some point you must admit that there is no known cause for the material universe, therefore the cause is unknown; yet there must be a cause for the observable effect of materiality.

The nature of such unknown cause is partially understood, it is immaterial because it cannot be limited by physical laws, omniscent to have concieved the splendors of the universe and the laws which bind it, omnipotent because such power, to create, exceeds all comprehension, and unchanging because change requires transition, to and from, and implies a rejection of the previous known attibutes. Our well ordered universe is testimony to this unknown force's unchanging nature.

These are the attributes of God.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:53:16   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
I can't help wondering if his attitude is because he blames God for his condition. He wouldn't be the first one.


maybe his universe was made that way not ours

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Sep 18, 2017 17:37:45   #
Mr Bombastic
 
pafret wrote:
Interesting, your article makes the same argument which I used in your post "Refute This" . Here it is again:

The material world is enmeshed in cause and effect. There is no effect without a cause and to contemplate ultimate cause in the material universe requires infinite regression, which is an impossibility. At some point you must admit that there is no known cause for the material universe, therefore the cause is unknown; yet there must be a cause for the observable effect of materiality.

The nature of such unknown cause is partially understood, it is immaterial because it cannot be limited by physical laws, omniscent to have concieved the splendors of the universe and the laws which bind it, omnipotent because such power, to create, exceeds all comprehension, and unchanging because change requires transition, to and from, and implies a rejection of the previous known attibutes. Our well ordered universe is testimony to this unknown force's unchanging nature.

These are the attributes of God.
Interesting, your article makes the same argument ... (show quote)



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Sep 18, 2017 18:35:45   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
maybe his universe was made that way not ours


He'll wish he could select his own universe we ht when he's at the Pearly Gates.

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Sep 18, 2017 20:27:11   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Super Dave wrote:
He'll wish he could select his own universe we ht when he's at the Pearly Gates.


yes he better hope god lets him in anyway or he will need the wheel chair in hell

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Sep 18, 2017 20:34:14   #
Mr Bombastic
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
yes he better hope god lets him in anyway or he will need the wheel chair in hell


It is interesting to note that sinners will be cast whole into the lake of fire. They will not receive a glorified body. They will have the one they born with. With all of its disabilities and imperfections.

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