Refute This.
Sep 17, 2017 03:51:10 #
God is the only rational explanation for why anything exists at all. Science has tried to come up with explanations that exclude a Creator, but they are nothing but guesses, and many, if not all of them defy science and logic. For instance, some scientists claim that energy has always existed. This is impossible since nothing physical can be eternal. It violates the law of cause and effect. That leaves us with the question of where energy came from. The problem is that it is impossible for something physical to create itself. The only reasonable answer is that someone created it. And don't even bother insulting our intelligence by asking who created God. For one, God is not physical. The laws of physics do not apply to Him. He created them. Bottom line. The universe requires a Creator. Nothing else makes any sense.
Sep 17, 2017 03:54:21 #
Sep 17, 2017 03:55:12 #
wings wrote:
I'll 2nd that Mr. Bomb
Thank you. Nice to see at least one person has some common sense. Anyone else?
Sep 17, 2017 04:20:20 #
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Thank you. Nice to see at least one person has some common sense. Anyone else?
Yeah, me, but I like to give the example of the complete absurdity of these myriad of flying creatures, both bugs and birds, slowly developing their aerodynamically perfect flying appendages and ability from nothing over eons of time with no intelligent designer planning, directing the process in all those most perfect variations without an all powerful, intelligent Creator God. ----- I would like to confront these godless evolution professors in their classroom full of students with that one. Only a brain-dead idiot could deny God after a bit of thought on that one.
Sep 17, 2017 04:26:39 #
Mr Bombastic wrote:
God is the only rational explanation for why anyth... (show quote)
I have often wondered why there are people who think it is possible that our universe evolved from chance and happenstance, using matter that was somehow left over from a "previous universe;" yet think the concept of a Supreme Intelligence is a fairy tale.
Sep 17, 2017 04:49:20 #
Loki wrote:
I have often wondered why there are people who think it is possible that our universe evolved from chance and happenstance, using matter that was somehow left over from a "previous universe;" yet think the concept of a Supreme Intelligence is a fairy tale.
Why? The universe is a place of order. Think about the universal physical constants. Without them, the universe would not exist. Where did they come from? They are immaterial, yet they affect the material. They are not composed of matter or energy. And, as I previously mentioned, nothing physical can create itself. What does that leave you with? A Creator. No other explanation fits the data.
EDIT: OOPS! I misread your reply. Could have sworn I saw an I where there wasn't one. I might need some glasses.
Sep 17, 2017 05:01:19 #
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Why? The universe is a place of order. Think about... (show quote)
I have often wondered how the capacity for creative thought, i.e. the ability to think in abstract terms, evolved. Atheists appear willing to subscribe to just about any sort of outlandish theory as long as it doesn't include a Supreme Intelligence or Creator.
What sort of chemical reaction produces the ability to conceptualize say, an afterlife?
I wonder which molecules knocked together under what happenstance to produce Beethoven's Prelude and Fugue in C minor?
Sep 17, 2017 05:44:14 #
Loki wrote:
I have often wondered how the capacity for creative thought, i.e. the ability to think in abstract terms, evolved. Atheists appear willing to subscribe to just about any sort of outlandish theory as long as it doesn't include a Supreme Intelligence or Creator.
What sort of chemical reaction produces the ability to conceptualize say, an afterlife?
I wonder which molecules knocked together under what happenstance to produce Beethoven's Prelude and Fugue in C minor?
What sort of chemical reaction produces the ability to conceptualize say, an afterlife?
I wonder which molecules knocked together under what happenstance to produce Beethoven's Prelude and Fugue in C minor?
It's all just an electrochemical reaction, dontcha know.
Sep 17, 2017 05:46:46 #
Wrong. The existence of God is NOT a rational explanation. Belief in God is an act of faith. You assume that something physical created itself. It is quite possible that the universe has ALWAYS existed, a possibility you don't take into account. That would be a much more rational explanation. There is no proof that the universe has not always existed, only your statement that there has been a beginning.
Mr Bombastic wrote:
God is the only rational explanation for why anyth... (show quote)
Sep 17, 2017 06:13:19 #
Loki wrote:
I have often wondered how the capacity for creative thought, i.e. the ability to think in abstract terms, evolved. Atheists appear willing to subscribe to just about any sort of outlandish theory as long as it doesn't include a Supreme Intelligence or Creator.
What sort of chemical reaction produces the ability to conceptualize say, an afterlife?
I wonder which molecules knocked together under what happenstance to produce Beethoven's Prelude and Fugue in C minor?
What sort of chemical reaction produces the ability to conceptualize say, an afterlife?
I wonder which molecules knocked together under what happenstance to produce Beethoven's Prelude and Fugue in C minor?
There is also the simple fact that no matter how the brain works, there is a will behind it. A soul. Chemicals cannot love or hate. They cannot create. They cannot ponder the infinite or the impossible. They cannot have a sense of self.
Sep 17, 2017 06:24:00 #
I point out to our readers that your simple statement that the soul exists does not prove that it does. Your post here is based on faith and is nonsense.
Mr Bombastic wrote:
There is also the simple fact that no matter how the brain works, there is a will behind it. A soul. Chemicals cannot love or hate. They cannot create. They cannot ponder the infinite or the impossible. They cannot have a sense of self.
Sep 17, 2017 06:27:07 #
Richard94611 wrote:
I point out to our readers that your simple statement that the soul exists does not prove that it does. Your post here is based on faith and is nonsense.
You are mistaken, as well as willfully ignorant. The simple fact that we exist is proof of a Creator. I already explained this in the OP. Did you even read it?
Sep 17, 2017 06:30:03 #
The simple fact that we exist is no more proof of a Creator than it is that the moon is made of green cheese. Your hubris is so great you believe that just because you say something is true, it is. Guess what. It often isn't
Mr Bombastic wrote:
You are mistaken, as well as willfully ignorant. The simple fact that we exist is proof of a Creator. I already explained this in the OP. Did you even read it?
Sep 17, 2017 06:38:09 #
Richard94611 wrote:
I point out to our readers that your simple statement that the soul exists does not prove that it does. Your post here is based on faith and is nonsense.
This thread is all semantics...................the simple fact remains that all we can sense is constructed of life forms which cooperate to become the structures of all we can perceive and all that enables us to exist. There can only be one reason for such an incredible assemblage of life expressing such amazing complexity. New discoveries in fractals demonstrate this quite understandably.
Sep 17, 2017 06:40:03 #
Richard94611 wrote:
I point out to our readers that your simple statement that the soul exists does not prove that it does. Your post here is based on faith and is nonsense.
FYI........the word "soul" has as its root a Greek word meaning mind, will, and emotions.
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