peter11937 Loc: NYS

That is the truth.

meridianlesilie Loc: mars

-----wish i can win a big lottery & find a island for my self !!!

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

That is not true. People at the time viewed themselves as Virginians, New Yorkers, Mississippians and Ohioans. It was most emphatically not an insurrection.

As far as the military aspect goes, check your history. I believe that you'll find that Lee resigned from the Union army, as was his right as an officer and took command of the army of his country, Virginia.

After the hostilities ended, radical Republicans under Pres. Andrew Johnson agitated for Lee & Jefferson Davis to be tried for treason. Union attorneys recommended against it because they didn't feel the case against secession could be sustained in court. Lincoln even advocated for the right to secession well in the antebellum years.

And, FYI, the issue was never settled legally. Today, there are secession movements afoot in California & Vermont.
There are also secession movements within New York State and Alaska. Staten Island wants to secede from New York City which in turn wants to secede from New York State. The area around the Bering peninsula wants to secede from Alaska and a part of northern California and southern Oregon want to join together into the state of Jefferson.

And, if, as Lincoln & his Republicans maintain, that the Confederacy seceded illegally or never seceded at all, then West Virginia should have returned to Virginia since Virginia never approved the severing.

You are like most liberals. You bend & twist history to suit your own ends but facts remain.

Owl32 Loc: ARK

Yes, you saw George's, Billies, and Hillarys front men creating a RIOT by allowing it to happen.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"There will now be a clamor to remove ALL Confederate statues throughout the country, It will emulate the removal of all Confederate flags that began with the S. C. State Capital removal. The Left will never be happy until all vestiges of Southern history is abolished and destroyed." - PoppaGringo

That is the MO of communism and those behind it.

America WAKE UP!!!
This is how Communism works.
Smear and Erase a country's Heritage.The USSR was a good example when Christian Russia fell. Over 100 million slaughtered. Time for Liberals to be aware of who is playing them.
The city of St. Petersberg was changed to Leningrad.
What comes after the statues are torn down?
This is a fight against Christianity.

It took the Russians 100 years to throw out the godless communist Bolsheviks.

Who is it now attacking God here in America?
Hollywood?
ADL?
Who is behind the erasing of American history?
A communist MO.

maryla

I can see BHO smiling to himself about all of this. He was supposed to/could have been the one to heal the racial divide in our country ....but instead he brings more division than can be remembered. I don't understand why President Trump and Jeff Sessions fail to see this and then lock him up for treason!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

There is soooo much treason in DC.
The shadow government installed OB for a purpose. He and the HildaBeast fulfilled their purpose.
They thought the 2016 election was a lock!!!
A lot of house cleaning in both parties is needed.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

Lincoln was in a quandary trying to decide what to do within the Constitution, but the South fired on Ft. Sumter and the war was on.

vettelover Loc: Richmond Va

That makes two of of us

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

This is true. There were some slip ups by The Confederates. But, under no circumstances was Lincoln going to allow them to leave the union. He and his industrialist and Big Business buddies needed that tariff income to fund their pet projects, canals, railroads, etc.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

" Could this riot, and subsequent death be seen as collateral damage by the left to now make it easier to quell free speech they don't agree with? Sure seems so. Thoughts?"
Yep, Soros is on a roll, and the liberal MSM is right there to join in that effort.

It seems liberals do not have a very good grasp of what Communism delivers. The masses fell for the Bolshevik BS. The Chinese never knew what hit them. The ruthlessness is beyond most peoples comprehension, largely due to lack if studying it. It sure isn't taught in the government school system. Over 200 Million people starved and slaughtered by those regimes.

Who here gives thought to who owns the MSM?
Who funds the "left"?
The insurrections?

Big Bass

The whole riot was choreographed by the left under Soros' direction.

maryla

That's a fact!! I fail to see why the goon cannot be arrested...

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Soros needs to be extridited to any one of many countries that want to try him for crimes against humanity.

Big Bass

He's a wily coyote, and covers his tracks. A trap needs to be set for him.