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Aug 13, 2017 09:59:42   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
PeterS wrote:
So how is a statue of Robert E Lee "all the good?" I think you are over reacting. If the people of Charlottesville want to take down a statue of Lee they should have the right to do so without the outside interference by Trumps Alt-right storm troopers.


Who ever said it's the people of Charlottesville that want the statue down. It's the officials in their state government. And I'm sure they're being pressured from the snowflake left to do it.

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Aug 13, 2017 10:00:54   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
Chocura750 wrote:
What 2tap is saying loud and clear " I'm angry that everyone in the country isn't like me".


No he's not. He has a clear concern.

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Aug 13, 2017 10:34:41   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PeterS wrote:
Yup, it's all Obama's fault...wouldn't you know...


Yep! We were doing better, much better, until that racist, evil, SOB purposely divided America.

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Aug 13, 2017 11:17:15   #
Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs
 
From what I've been able to see on TV or read, the "people" of Charlottesville haven't had any say in the matter. It's all the idea of some ill-informed town Mayor. Am I wrong in this?

"Alt-right storm troopers." Pure hyperbole, not at all supported by facts!

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Aug 13, 2017 11:25:41   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
PeterS wrote:
So how is a statue of Robert E Lee "all the good?" I think you are over reacting. If the people of Charlottesville want to take down a statue of Lee they should have the right to do so without the outside interference by Trumps Alt-right storm troopers.


If the people of Charlottesville wanted to take down a statue because it was located in an area where it caused problems simply by being a large statue or if it was decrepit and needed removal for safety and or replacement elsewhere it would be of no concern. This statue is being removed because some racist group or other claims that it is symbolic of oppressions perpetrated against their ancestors. It is no concern of theirs if this is truly what the statue represents, it is their means of forcing their views on Whitey.

The act of removal has now become a point of contention between all of these extremist groups. The blacks are adamant in wanting the destruction of any vestige of white dominance and the white supremacists are equally opposed to showing any weakness to these protestors. Neither side cares a tinkers dam about the statue, it is simply a struggle for dominance.

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Aug 13, 2017 11:33:30   #
Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs
 
buffalo wrote:
What is currently happening in this country, the purging of anything offensive to moonbats, is it not reminiscent of Orwell's "1984"?

As Jarrett Stepman penned: When does this war on American history stop? If every figure must be held up to the constantly evolving values of the times, we will eventually find that we’ve purged all of the good along with the bad elements of what made this country what it is. We may even find that tomorrow, we are the ones being erased from history.
What is currently happening in this country, the p... (show quote)


I have to agree wholeheartedly. When is this denigrating of former CSA Generals and their beliefs gonna stop? Not








until we removed every such statue and either stored them in some forgotten warehouse or melted them down? We cannot re-write history; Americans for both sides fought a great civil war that cost untold number of lives..and to this day, is ingrained in our consciousness. What's next? Forbidding the VMI cadets from celebrating the Battle of New Market? Telling The Citadel corps it can no longer display their many battle streamers on its US flag because they were fighting for the CSA? Telling the Dept of the Army it must change the name of Camp AP Hill, Ft ,lee, Ft Jackson and Ft Bragg? All of this re-writing of US history must stop--and it must stop right now! It borders on the absurd!

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Aug 13, 2017 11:41:06   #
Big Bass
 
buffalo wrote:
What is currently happening in this country, the purging of anything offensive to moonbats, is it not reminiscent of Orwell's "1984"?

As Jarrett Stepman penned: When does this war on American history stop? If every figure must be held up to the constantly evolving values of the times, we will eventually find that we’ve purged all of the good along with the bad elements of what made this country what it is. We may even find that tomorrow, we are the ones being erased from history.
What is currently happening in this country, the p... (show quote)

And "Animal Farm." (A description of the clintons. "All pigs are equal! Some are just more equal than others,"

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Aug 13, 2017 13:15:50   #
Tom Salinger
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
The saying is: It takes one to know one. So perhaps you're also one in need of a "good therapist." 2tap has it correct, he's laid blame where it belongs. Anyone who's paying attention can see what 2tap is concerned with. I have often wondered where people like you and PeteS live. Is the area know for the sycophantic worship of the most worthless president the nation has ever had?

The fact that you two would criticize those who tell it like it is, is an indication that, either, you have no idea what's happening in the country, or you're oblivious to reality.
The saying is: It takes one to know one. So perhap... (show quote)


I am a certified Therapist in Grief Counseling. Worked in hospice for nine years and then retired. My professional side came out, sorry. I will address his post without the psychology.

"It is my whole heartewd contention that the overwhelmng reason for this confrontation is the DIRECT RESULT of the Obama Administrations constant Anti-American, Anti-Law Enforcement, Anti-White and quite frankly the Anit anything that has to do with the founding of this country."
He has seemed to overlook slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow. Obama did not have anything to do with implanting that racism. Did that entrenched racism miraculously disappear with desegregation? All gone?

" Removing confederate statutus, removing Shakes Spearina Panitings, the removal of basic History class's and so n. The Progressive left have with the complete support of the MSM have been both trying to re-write Americas founding and history and actually removing vast amounts of truth pertaing our Founding Fathers ideology for this country."
Madness, or just ignorance.

"The second ammendment is under constant attack, the first ammendment is constantly under attack, our education system has been under attack for decades whith the slealth advancement of Marxist teachings, Religeous beliefs have always it seems been happening but over the last 8 years it has become unbearable and most pronounced."
"...religious beliefs have always it seems been happening but over the last 8 years it has become unbearable and most pronounced..." What?

I will have to stop here, with apologies. The truth is I only read a few lines before my comments. I was flippant. He is a decent man and patriot deeply concerned for his country. He is to be commended. My bad.

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Aug 13, 2017 13:23:22   #
S. Maturin
 
2tap wrote:
It is my whole heartewd contention that the overwhelmng reason for this confrontation is the DIRECT RESULT of the Obama Administrations constant Anti-American, Anti-Law Enforcement, Anti-White and quite frankly the Anit anything that has to do with the founding of this country. Between him, George Soros, CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood and every one of their subversive sub orgabizations. Media Matters, Americans for Progress, ANTIFA, BLM so on and so forth. Everything that we have been seeing is the attempt through the MSM and our colleges that have been inudated with progressive educators. Look fo r yourselves. Removing confederate statutus, removing Shakes Spearina Panitings, the removal of basic History class's and so n. The Progressive left have with the complete support of the MSM have been both trying to re-write Americas founding and history and actually removing vast amounts of truth pertaing our Founding Fathers ideology for this country. The second ammendment is under constant attack, the first ammendment is constantly under attack, our education system has been under attack for decades whith the slealth advancement of Marxist teachings, Religeous beliefs have always it seems been happening but over the last 8 years it has become unbearable and most pronounced. The advancement of Muslim indoctrination being taught in our schools while any other mention of religeous belifs are no where to be found and if it is it condemed heartily. The progressive lefts continuos bitching about the seperation of church and state is loud and clear when talking about Christianity but it never seems to be concerned where it becomes involved with the Muslims Koran. Why do you all think this is happening. Obama loathed colonialism and his entire pathetic life has been surrounded by Muslim Ideology, and Marxist/Communist mentors. Am I telling you anything new here? Of course not. But it is my belief that unless this president of ours, MY PRESIDENT, President Trump is made to be fully aware of all this and quite frankly Im not sure he is, this ocuntry will no longer be reckognizable , not in ten or even fifteen years within possibly two years Im extremely sorry and afraid to say. Ireally have nothing else t say on this matter as I would be kicking a dea horse my OPP friends. I am along with so much support from a number of you here continually writing and re-writing the document I will be sending to President Trump. One of the Patriots here has been kind enough to research President Trumps address that would in my opinion be the best avenue of approach with the most likely chance that the President will actually have the chance to read it without to much go between interference. He really is an extremely down to earth man with a complex view of the world he sees and most importantly his love of the United States. I myself is as plain as a box of rocks and Proud Marine. Im simple in my daily life but a very complex thinker though I may not be able to put to words the way I would like. In closing I will just say to all of you thank you for being my online friends and that friendship is returened back to you in spades.
Semper Fi
It is my whole heartewd contention that the overwh... (show quote)


I think you have that well understood.. here's that video I mentioned in another thread-- the guy is mostly dead-nuts on as to this topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX5dbFPdzVo

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Aug 13, 2017 13:27:37   #
S. Maturin
 
kankune wrote:
Who ever said it's the people of Charlottesville that want the statue down. It's the officials in their state government. And I'm sure they're being pressured from the snowflake left to do it.


Yes; well said. There is a deceptive mass of politicians who say one thing to get elected and then when given power, turn on the very folks who voted for them.

We're talking about evil SOBs, here, and not 100% of them are demProgs, but about 100% of demprogs are evil, lying SOBs.

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Aug 13, 2017 13:28:25   #
Mr Shako Loc: Colo Spgs
 
pafret wrote:
If the people of Charlottesville wanted to take down a statue because it was located in an area where it caused problems simply by being a large statue or if it was decrepit and needed removal for safety and or replacement elsewhere it would be of no concern. This statue is being removed because some racist group or other claims that it is symbolic of oppressions perpetrated against their ancestors. It is no concern of theirs if this is truly what the statue represents, it is their means of forcing their views on Whitey.

The act of removal has now become a point of contention between all of these extremist groups. The blacks are adamant in wanting the destruction of any vestige of white dominance and the white supremacists are equally opposed to showing any weakness to these protestors. Neither side cares a tinkers dam about the statue, it is simply a struggle for dominance.
If the people of Charlottesville wanted to take do... (show quote)


As an aside....

Some bozos in Colo Spgs wanted the downtown statue of Gen William Jackson Palmer (mounted on a horse atop a giant pedestal) removed from the center of N. Nevada st where it intersects Boulder. Palmer was once president of the Denver & Rio Grande and founder of Col Spgs. Why? Because people had to drive around it to continue on Nevada, and to a certain extent, traffic moving laterally via Boulder. This was proposed in City Council. As soon as the people heard about it there was such a hue and cry, the project was tabled and there hasn't been a peep about it since. The people spoke and the politicos listened. After all...to get a driver's license one has to know how to "drive." doesn't one? It ain't just steering straight ahead! This removal of revered Confederates by "vote-seekers" like Landreau (I know I didn't spell it correctly) in "Big Easy" and this dumkopf in Charlottesville should never have been allowed to happen.

In all honesty, I'm surprised someone in state government hasn't called these idiots on this!

I suspect Richmond might be next. The last time I drove thru that city there was a long "heroes row" of Confederate statues lining the main drag. Will they be removed and are they then going to demolish the Confederate War Museum in that city? Nothing would surprise me, including a sudden fire that engulfs the old "Confederate White House."

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Aug 13, 2017 13:32:45   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Yes; well said. There is a deceptive mass of politicians who say one thing to get elected and then when given power, turn on the very folks who voted for them.

We're talking about evil SOBs, here, and not 100% of them are demProgs, but about 100% of demprogs are evil, lying SOBs.


So true S. We're finding out the so called rhino repubs are just as bad. Cheating lying, sacks of crap they are.

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Aug 13, 2017 13:44:00   #
Carol Kelly
 
PeterS wrote:
Yup, it's all Obama's fault...wouldn't you know...


Yes, it is. He's right on. But not alone did Obama create this havoc because it's been brewing for sometime. Obama was allowed to get away with murder, the murder of our country just as surely as Hillary is to blame for the deaths of so many. No one challenged them. No one challenged Schumer, McCain and Lindsey Graham and all that ilk. What is making me sickest would be all the complacent whites in leadership roles in this country eager to blame other whites for all the sins of the world. Blacks hang together, Jews hang together, whites bite each other in the backs just as the Democrats and true Republicans do. We will never get anywhere this way. Where did all this white supremacy originate.
Suddenly, that's all you hear, that and racists. Disgusting!

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Aug 13, 2017 13:47:50   #
Carol Kelly
 
Mr Shako wrote:
As an aside....

Some bozos in Colo Spgs wanted the downtown statue of Gen William Jackson Palmer (mounted on a horse atop a giant pedestal) removed from the center of N. Nevada st where it intersects Boulder. Palmer was once president of the Denver & Rio Grande and founder of Col Spgs. Why? Because people had to drive around it to continue on Nevada, and to a certain extent, traffic moving laterally via Boulder. This was proposed in City Council. As soon as the people heard about it there was such a hue and cry, the project was tabled and there hasn't been a peep about it since. The people spoke and the politicos listened. After all...to get a driver's license one has to know how to "drive." doesn't one? It ain't just steering straight ahead! This removal of revered Confederates by "vote-seekers" like Landreau (I know I didn't spell it correctly) in "Big Easy" and this dumkopf in Charlottesville should never have been allowed to happen.

In all honesty, I'm surprised someone in state government hasn't called these idiots on this!

I suspect Richmond might be next. The last time I drove thru that city there was a long "heroes row" of Confederate statues lining the main drag. Will they be removed and are they then going to demolish the Confederate War Museum in that city? Nothing would surprise me, including a sudden fire that engulfs the old "Confederate White House."
As an aside.... br br Some bozos in Colo Spgs wan... (show quote)


I agree and I'm waiting. It does no good to vote against these things, they're already decided. My opinion counts as much as anyone else's and I often demand to be heard but
it's no use when no one is listening. Very frustrating!

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Aug 13, 2017 14:34:22   #
S. Maturin
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I agree and I'm waiting. It does no good to vote against these things, they're already decided. My opinion counts as much as anyone else's and I often demand to be heard but
it's no use when no one is listening. Very frustrating!


Plenty of folks are listening, Carol. It's difficult if not impossible to know the impact of your shared thoughts. I know one cannot always know from the overt reactions of those listening/reading. Folks' thinking goes deep.. and some stuff which one barely reacted to today may have huge consequences tomorrow.

I share your frustration, through. Let's strive to not be impatient.

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