Super Dave wrote:
Not to be too technical, but I am 100% native American. So are my siblings, parents and grandparents, children and grandchildren, and aunts and uncles.
All born 100% in America.
Good point. I was simply pointing out that there are no indigenous peoples here; we all came from elsewhere.
Nickolai wrote:
The land you say the Mexicans crossed the Rio Grande to enter was an area that the two nations were in dispute over. President Polk had said " We just have to have California " and sent envoys with an offer to buy it. The Mexicans refused to sell it so Polk sent soldiers into the disputed area knowing full well they would draw fire from the Mexicans, and when they did Polk used it as a pretext to urge Congress to declare war on Mexico and take it. After the war Polk paid Mexico five million for it in order to assuage his guilt. But the war was for the express purpose of taking California and the southwest from Mexico as part of Americas manifest destiny it was called. War was then waged on the plains Indians who were crushed by 1890 in order to complete our manifest destiny.
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Texas was an independent country, having won that independence from Mexico, and their border was the Rio Grande. They chose to become part of the US after having been an independent Republic for about ten years. Mexican troops crossed the Rio Grande and attacked a small contingent of US troops. The only dispute came from the Mexicans, after they had agreed to the Rio Grande as the border. The disputed area appears to have come into dispute only after Texas voted to join the Union. Once the war had begun, the US set about acquiring territory, but Mexico initiated hostilities, just as they did against Texas when it was still a part of Mexico.
When Santa Anna became dictator, he not only abolished the constitution that the Texans, both Caucasian and Latino had agreed to, he conducted vicious campaigns of suppression in Mexico itself, particularly in the province of San Luis Potosi'. There were Mexicans defending the Alamo as well as attacking it, and there were a fair number of Mexicans in Sam Houston's army that defeated Santa Anna at San Jacinto.
You are correct in that the Plains Indians were for the most part crushed. You neglect the part where many of these tribes had acquired their hunting grounds in the same way that they lost it.... by force of arms.
As far as disease ravaging the tribes, most of it was unintentional. For most of the history of this country there were no vaccines against diseases brought from Europe, many of which also killed a great many whites.
moldyoldy wrote:
There were a few documentaries in recent months about the opioid epidemic. They listed many small towns in appalacian areas where 90 % of the towns were addicted.
"THEY". Oh there's so many "theys" from the lettered elite of the radical left.
S. Maturin wrote:
"THEY". Oh there's so many "theys" from the lettered elite of the radical left.
You'd best soft pedal it;
They will come after you.
Nickolai wrote:
By Naomi Spencer
21 August 2015
The city of Huntington has the distinction of overdose capital of West Virginia, which is the state with the worst overdose rate in the US.
Since January first, at least 520 Huntington residents have overdosed, and 34 have died. Two-thirds of the deaths are attributed to heroin. The rate is 13 times the national average.
Over the past two weeks, Huntington has seen a surge in overdoses involving heroin spiked with the drug fentanyl. According to the Mayor’s Office of Drug Control Policy, samples with fentanyl tested 50 times more powerful than heroin. Heroin users who injected the laced drugs were sent into comas and stopped breathing. In two days’ time, the city saw at least eight overdoses.
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I daresay that if 520 residents of Huntington had overdosed that is far too many. Nevertheless, 520 is not 90% of that city's population!! Got that? NOT ninety percent!! Pure, unadulterated, hyperbole!
Loki wrote:
Good point. I was simply pointing out that there are no indigenous peoples here; we all came from elsewhere.
On that we agree.
America-Haters only care about history that serves their purposes.
Loki wrote:
You'd best soft pedal it; They will come after you.
If
they do, there'll be fewer to bother the rest of my brothers.
Somehow it didn't post. What I wanted to say was that your rationale for secession would be close to what Southerners might say when they wanted a new nation free from the burdens of the North. You do realize that, don't you? In the meantime, what happens to San Diego Naval Air and Edwards AFB, plus the scattering of numerous other US armed forces installations in the state? Is Gov Moonbeam prepared to send commissioners to DC to negotiate their turnover to Cal as the Confederates did in 1860-61 with the US Govt?
As I noted earlier, all this "secesh' talk ended at Appomatox in April, 1865. The genie was back in the bottle and now crazy people in California wanted to pop the cork once more! Unbelievable!
Mr Shako wrote:
Somehow it didn't post. What I wanted to say was that your rationale for secession would be close to what Southerners might say when they wanted a new nation free from the burdens of the North. You do realize that, don't you? In the meantime, what happens to San Diego Naval Air and Edwards AFB, plus the scattering of numerous other US armed forces installations in the state? Is Gov Moonbeam prepared to send commissioners to DC to negotiate their turnover to Cal as the Confederates did in 1860-61 with the US Govt?
As I noted earlier, all this "secesh' talk ended at Appomatox in April, 1865. The genie was back in the bottle and now crazy people in California wanted to pop the cork once more! Unbelievable!
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I wonder if Vegas has odds on this ever happening....
Mr Shako wrote:
Somehow it didn't post. What I wanted to say was that your rationale for secession would be close to what Southerners might say when they wanted a new nation free from the burdens of the North. You do realize that, don't you? In the meantime, what happens to San Diego Naval Air and Edwards AFB, plus the scattering of numerous other US armed forces installations in the state? Is Gov Moonbeam prepared to send commissioners to DC to negotiate their turnover to Cal as the Confederates did in 1860-61 with the US Govt?
As I noted earlier, all this "secesh' talk ended at Appomatox in April, 1865. The genie was back in the bottle and now crazy people in California wanted to pop the cork once more! Unbelievable!
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Surely if CA does become a nation all to itself, we will see a civil war between the northern CA and the loopy southern CA. Mexico will do a 'walk-over' and take southern CA and that crazy guy Tucker allowed to wobble around the microphone will be named ambassador, dictator for life or some other hugely honorable position.
Hollywood screen writers could not make this nonsense up.
S. Maturin wrote:
Surely if CA does become a nation all to itself, we will see a civil war between the northern CA and the loopy southern CA. Mexico will do a 'walk-over' and take southern CA and that crazy guy Tucker allowed to wobble around the microphone will be named ambassador, dictator for life or some other hugely honorable position.
Hollywood screen writers could not make this nonsense up.
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Hollywood will make a movie about it, however. The scenario as it see it will be the "secesh" crowd will be the heroes, those that oppose, the bad guys. The reverse opposite of "Red Dawn."
Mr Shako wrote:
Hollywood will make a movie about it, however. The scenario as it see it will be the "secesh" crowd will be the heroes, those that oppose, the bad guys. The reverse opposite of "Red Dawn."
Yes, but it's the Hollywood culture after all.
proud republican wrote:
Im so pissed , Idont want this to happen. this so RIDICULOUS!!! Iam NOT signing pettition!!
Is English your second language?
Mattie Silks wrote:
Is English your second language?
THAT is not helpful. What the hell are you trying to do with that?
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