Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD

According to the cited site, sea level is RISING (or are you unable to read a graph?).

S. Maturin

Gore and his church of Gorebots will be shocked- SHOCKED!- to learn there is a power greater than their mouths. Good luck explaining that to them also.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Try to understand. The rising of the water is a LIE! Get it? A LIE!

Your so called melting of the polar ice fields causing the sea to rise is a LIE!

The planet cycles. Ice fields shift. The northern loss has been more than offset by the southern ice field gain, therefore falling sea level.

It CANNOT be a temporary condition so don't go there. As you said, where did the water go? Just last month your so called experts were spreading fear about the coming flooding of coastal cities because according to them the waters were rising. LAST MONTH. Now we find that the sea has DROPPED during the past 2 years. Your experts LIED and instead of you doing some actual learning, you chose to believe them because of some perverse reason YOU WANTED TO!

You CC people have no understanding of science so you rely totally on what you are told by LIARS.

Now you know, so stop the CC/GW idiocy.

S. Maturin

Even that information is suspect since we know the seas have measurable bulging and where that happens, yes, the levels on shore will rise. There actually is no such thing as 'sea level' as we once thought we understood it.

bahmer

I didn't look at the graph I was responding to the opening remarks.
NASA Confirms Falling Sea Levels For Two Years
Amidst Media Blackout
But the 3.4 mm per year rise is about .133 inch which is hardly significant. So now we have two studies one claiming that the seas are falling and the other claiming the seas are rising. I will leave it in Gods hands and not worry about it because there is nothing that I can do to make any difference in that whatsoever.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Good Lord don't plant evaporation in their minds or they'll start claiming the water loss is suddenly.in the atmosphere causing extraordinary rain events which will end up causing ocean rise.

You are talking to a mind so full of bs, there is no room for science.

S. Maturin

Every thinking, sentient being needs to read this: http://patriotpost.us/articles/50349

Yup, it is about MMGW/CC/ all that jazz and much, much more!

Morgan

A warmer climate will promote less oxygen, droughts and fires as we've seen all over the world,as for plants each are adaptable to certain temperatures, hotter temps, stresses out and kills many trees and plant life. Less not forget the oceans, the lower oxygen levels... have you taken the time to look at the damage of the coral reefs in the last two record breaking years.

The worst coral bleaching in 700 years struck the Great Barrier Reef in 1998, followed by an even worse one just four years later. Massive areas of corals were affected all over the world. In Australia alone, the 2002 bleaching saw nearly 60 per cent of the reef affected and in the worst hit areas, 90 per cent of the coral was bleached(killed). The past two years may have broken that record.

What was once a beautiful kaleidoscope of color and teeming with life, is now, in many areas are cold colorless, lifeless underwater barrens. This ecosystem being crucial to life as we know it, is a serious concern.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

As usual the right wing press jumps on this and only tell half the story and lies about the other half..

This was well covered in 2012 or so and again now as the alt-press repeats the same type of untrue story as in the past..

The nut shell is that the missing water is in and on land. It will reach the oceans as the cycle progresses.

Also a factor is the depressing of the ocean floor..

I will piss have of OPP off with a couple of copy and paste rather then make them read my vast and unending opinion




Feb. 11, 2016
RELEASE 16-015
NASA, University Study Shows Rising Seas Slowed by Increasing Water on Land
New measurements from a NASA satellite have allowed researchers to identify and quantify, for the first time, how climate-driven increases of liquid water storage on land have affected the rate of sea level rise.

A new study by scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, and the University of California, Irvine, shows that while ice sheets and glaciers continue to melt, changes in weather and climate over the past decade have caused Earth’s continents to soak up and store an extra 3.2 trillion tons of water in soils, lakes and underground aquifers, temporarily slowing the rate of sea level rise by about 20 percent.

The water gains over land were spread globally, but taken together they equal the volume of Lake Huron, the world’s seventh largest lake. The study is published in the Feb. 12 issue of the journal Science.

Each year, a large amount of water evaporates from the oceans, falls over land as rain or snow, and returns to the oceans through runoff and river flows. This is known as the global hydrologic, or water, cycle. Scientists have long known small changes in the hydrologic cycle -- by persistent regional changes in soil moisture or lake levels, for instance -- could change the rate of sea level rise from what we would expect based on ice sheet and glacier melt rates. However, they did not know how large the land storage effect would be because there were no instruments that could accurately measure global changes in liquid water on land.

"We always assumed that people’s increased reliance on groundwater for irrigation and consumption was resulting in a net transfer of water from the land to the ocean,” said lead author J.T. Reager of JPL, who began work on the study as a graduate student at UC Irvine. "What we didn’t realize until now is that over the past decade, changes in the global water cycle more than offset the losses that occurred from groundwater pumping, causing the land to act like a sponge -- at least temporarily. These new data are vital for understanding decadal variations in sea level change. The information will be a critical complement to future long-term projections of sea level rise, which depend on melting ice and warming oceans.”


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://earthdata.nasa.gov/user-resources/sensing-our-planet/when-oceans-drop


The weight of water

If the water was no longer in the ocean, then it must have ended up somewhere on land. It was not feasible for researchers to inspect every drainage basin, or examine water volume for every river across the globe. But they could try to find changes in weight around Earth. Five millimeters of global ocean water weighs about 1.5 trillion tons, and that much water cannot just disappear. A set of twin satellites, called the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE), provided researchers with a fresh measurement of Earth’s surface: gravity. Gravity exerts more pull on things that weigh more, so the scientists thought they could use the gravity measurements to locate the weight missing from the oceans. Willis said, “GRACE is our latest favorite toy. This idea that you can weigh a continent or weigh the ocean from outer space is kind of cool.”

By looking at gravity measurements of oceans and land around the globe, the researchers could spot areas that weighed more in 2011. Boening said, “GRACE allowed us to actually track down the water to see where it went. And it turned out it was in northern South America, Southeast Asia, and Australia.” The strong La Niña had affected the oceans to an unusual extent, not by cooling the water so much as by moving the water on to land. Rainfall follows warm pools of water, and during El Niño, more rain tends to fall over the Pacific Ocean. But during La Niña, cooler oceans push that rainfall over continents.

The researchers then compared their GRACE findings to data from the Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission (TRMM). “TRMM measures precipitation, so we could make sure that the changes we were seeing with GRACE lined up with the precipitation that was measured in these areas during that time,” she said. Indeed, torrential rains had fallen over Southeast Asia, parts of South America, and eastern Australia, which suffered its worst floods in more than one hundred years.

“So it turns out that the atmosphere is good at picking up this water, carrying it a little ways, and then dumping it back down,” Willis said. “That’s a big part of why sea level goes up and down every year.”

The rise marches on

Scientists had suspected that the ENSO cycle was capable of such dramatic water transport, but previously did not have the direct proof GRACE provided. They now know that thermal expansion only accounts for 10 to 20 percent of these kinds of sea level changes. Willis said, “It wasn’t until this last switch from El Niño to La Niña that we had good enough data: sea level from altimeters, temperature data in the ocean, and gravity data from GRACE. We really needed all three to be sure that this was caused by changes in mass and not by thermal expansion.”

These more extensive observations have also proven that the sea level drop was only temporary. Even though La Niña-induced rainfall deposited massive amounts of water on land, it only takes six months to a year for that water to run back off into the ocean. “What we’re seeing now, over the course of 2011 to 2012, is that sea level is going back up again,” Boening said. Shifts in water storage caused by El Niño and La Niña are only short term against the ongoing backdrop of warming. “Even as sea level dropped a little bit, we had huge amounts of melting in Greenland and Antarctica. So the things that are causing long term sea level rise are still chugging right along,” Willis said.

Still, knowing where Earth’s water is, whether it is in the oceans, falling as rain, or frozen in ice sheets, is crucial for monitoring global ocean levels. Boening said, “As we gather more and more observations, we are able to understand these fluctuations better, and also make our predictions of sea level rise better.”

Morgan

That's a great way of taking no responsibilities of our actions, if we to have an atomic war and left the world a dust bowl, would you still say it was God and not us?

bahmer

The earth will one day fade away and the Lord will still rule. He gave us power when he created us in His image, and how we use that power will be up to us. But there are prophesies in the Bible that explain that the Lord will return one day, and there will be a new heaven and a new earth. I believe in that, some don't, we will wait and see who is right.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

And in the current time, you do not give a damn about the condition of the world he made for us.

the squalor that most of the world struggles thru and the incredible wealth that a very few have, and made impossible for the rest of the world to gain?

Simply slide on in the muck forced onto most of the world population.

Make no effort to improve the condition of humanity.

God is about love and mercy and compassion.. Not about being a lay about and letting the world go to hell in a hand basket..

bahmer

Sorry about that I am referring to myself here. I am 74 years old with emphysema and there is very little I can do. Those days are past me and they are long gone for me. That is for you younger whipper snappers to worry about all I can do is hang on until I am called home. So you can categorize me any way you want it is your privilege. I'm to old to fight and to old to give a damn.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

bahmer,

Please accept my apology for flying off the handle.. Often I do not contain myself very well and regret it later..

Hope you feel strong and cope well... Blessings to you..

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Have you ever been around the Cape of Good Hope and seen the visible variation? It makes this variance nonsense completely moot.