Transgender Navy SEAL hero: 'Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy.' (Page 5): I don't care that transgenderes want to searve in America's military. The part that I...

Kazudy

slatten49 wrote:

Paul Szoldra
Business Insider,
Wednesday, July 26, 2017

A retired Navy SEAL Team 6 hero who is transgender had a message for President Donald Trump after he announced the US military would bar transgender people from serving.

"Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy," Kristin Beck, a 20-year veteran of the Navy SEALs, told Business Insider on Wednesday. "Transgender doesn't matter. Do your service."

Beck said Trump's abrupt change in policy could negatively affect many currently or wanting to serve in the military. The RAND Corporation estimated in 2016 that there were between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender people serving. Many of them just want to serve their country like everyone else, Beck said.

"Being transgender doesn't affect anyone else," Beck said. "We are liberty's light. If you can't defend that for everyone that's an American citizen, that's not right."

Beck is not just your average service member. Born Christopher Beck, she served for 20 years in the Navy with SEAL Teams 1, 5, and, eventually, the elite 6. She deployed 13 times over two decades, including stints in Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. She received the Bronze Star award for valor and the Purple Heart for wounds suffered in combat. (Those were among Beck's twenty-seven awards/medals/commendations)

"I was defending individual liberty," she said. "I defended for Republicans. I defended for Democrats. I defended for everyone."

In a series of tweets, Trump said the decision was based on the costs of medical services that transgender service members could use. But "the money is negligible," Beck said. "You're talking about .000001% of the military budget.

"They care more about the airplane or the tank than they care about people," Beck said. "They don't care about people. They don't care about human beings."

When asked about potential problems with unit cohesion or war fighting, Beck said those were not issues that would arise from transgender service members, but from leadership.

"A very professional unit with great leadership wouldn't have a problem," Beck said. "I can have a Muslim serving right beside Jerry Falwell, and we're not going to have a problem. It's a leadership issue, not a transgender issue."

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I don't care that transgenderes want to searve in America's military. The part that I object to is they wanting My Tax dollars paying for their transformation. That will be encourage them to join for the purpose of the surgery, not to searve our country. I have to agree that not only the cost of the surgery, but the moral of the military is at stake here. You Liberals have a history of fixing things that are not broken.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

slatten49 wrote:

Wolf, I just read this story today, and was taken ... (show quote)

MR. Beck, (still biologically a MALE) never wore a dress while serving in the Navy. I do not know BECK personally, however BECK does know that if a vote was cast within the SEAL TEAMS regarding the Transgender issues, the answer would be a no...and most likely a HELL NO! BECK knew that the entire time HE was active duty.

Further, if the US allowed the Transgender individuals to freely join up and then want sex change ops, they most likely would start pushing for that agenda rather than to be in the SERVICE to be a Machine of Death.

While GW Bush was still in office, many times the news media would be interviewing families that knew in just a matter of a few weeks they would be deployed over seas....and the entire family would be on T.V. crying and sobbing about it....like what they hell did they join for? We have enough BS now in the Military to deal with. Too much PC as it is.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

padremike wrote:

Please tell me that Texas hasn't gone to Hell the ... (show quote)

There is no question as to whether Texas has its fair share of gays, transgenders, homophobes, xenophobes...even misanthropes, etc. But, no more or less than any other state with their percentage of hidden societal enclaves. They are each part of what is called 'diversity.' Even with whatever flaws Texas may have in its people, laws or legislature, it is my home state and I remain a proud Texas-American. Like America, Texas has room for improvement...depending on one's idea of improvement. What state doesn't

I will live, die and be buried (hopefully, not too soon) in my beloved Texas.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Kazudy wrote:

I don't care that transgenderes want to searve in America's military. The part that I object to is they wanting My Tax dollars paying for their transformation. That will be encourage them to join for the purpose of the surgery, not to searve our country. I have to agree that not only the cost of the surgery, but the moral of the military is at stake here. You Liberals have a history of fixing things that are not broken.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Super Dave wrote:

This man/woman needs to get a grip on reality.

It's not about him/her.

It's about America. The military is not there for the benefit of individual serviceman.

The military is there to protect America.

All Patriot should put their personal wishes aside for the benefit of the country.

Is this person trying to get a gig on CNN or what?

Damn...so well stated. Thanks.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Mr Bombastic wrote:

He. Not she. He was born and served as a male. He can call himself whatever he wants, but he is still a he. You cannot change your sex. Anyone who thinks differently has a mental disorder.

BINGO!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Kazudy wrote:

I don't care that transgenderes want to searve in America's military. The part that I object to is they wanting My Tax dollars paying for their transformation. That will be encourage them to join for the purpose of the surgery, not to searve our country. I have to agree that not only the cost of the surgery, but the moral of the military is at stake here. You Liberals have a history of fixing things that are not broken.

I am also against tax dollars paying for their transformation, as it may lead to one's joining for the purpose of the surgery.

Without knowing, I doubt the VA paid for Beck's surgical transformation. However, I will check into it, ASAP.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

slatten49 wrote:

I would agree with that, Dave...but, one can't say that Beck fell short in serving/protecting our nation for twenty years. Whether an exception or the rule for transgenders, that is indisputable. Stereotyping people can often lead to wrong assumptions.

He served as a male! His sex organs (not his male DNA) were changed after he retired.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Alicia wrote:

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My husband said about his friend (prior, during and after serving in the Marines together) that anyone who would react so violently if approached by a homosexual, is secretly afraid of his own masculinity. Mr. B., try some soul searching and see if you do not fit that example.

My Wife after reading some of your post about her friend, (prior during my time in the service) that anyone like YOU would have been given a BOOT party for being such a frigging commie and hater of the USA. You old HAG, try some soul searching and see if you don't think this world would be better off without commies like you, as you are nothing but filth.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

padremike wrote:

He served as a male! His sex organs (not his male DNA) were changed after he retired.

That has been mentioned a few times on this thread.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

America Only wrote:

My Wife after reading some of your post about her friend, (prior during my time in the service) that anyone like YOU would have been given a BOOT party for being such a frigging commie and hater of the USA. You old HAG, try some soul searching and see if you don't think this world would be better off without commies like you, as you are nothing but filth.

Well crap, Mr. America, obviously you failed the Obama school of forced "Tolerance" and opted to keep all those old fashioned moral values that made America great. Me too!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

General Mattis Indicates He Will Not Roll Back Open LGBT Military Service As Secretary of Defense

Thursday, January 12, 2017

WASHINGTON -- Today, the nation’s leading organizations for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) service members and their families -- the American Military Partner Association (AMPA) and OutServe-SLDN -- issued the following joint statement following comments made by President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, retired General James Mattis, during confirmation hearings this morning. General Mattis indicated he will not work to reverse the current policies that allow any qualified person to serve, including LGBT people.

“We are heartened by General Mattis’ stated commitment during his testimony not to reverse the profound progress we have made in ensuring LGBT service members and their families are able to serve our nation with pride,” said AMPA President Ashley Broadway-Mack and OutServe-SLDN Executive Director Matt Thorn. “Because questions had been raised about his commitment on this front, uncertainty in the future had given our military families great cause for concern. His comments today give us hope for a working relationship between our organizations and the new Defense Department leadership. If confirmed, we look forward to working with General Mattis in supporting our nation’s brave heroes and their families. We are committed to holding the incoming administration accountable and ensuring all who serve, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity, have the support and respect they need and deserve.”

During his prepared testimony, General Mattis said, “We open the door to all patriots who are eligible and meet the standards, provide them with the training, equipment, and leadership that's central to their success, and ensure all service members are treated with dignity and respect.”

When asked by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) about his support for LGBT service members currently serving our nation, General Mattis said, “Senator, my belief is that we have to stay focused on a military that’s so lethal that on the battlefield it will be the enemies’ longest day and their worst day when they run into that force. I believe that military service is a touchstone for patriots of whatever stripe. It’s simply the way that they demonstrate their commitment. And I believe right now that the policies that are in effect, unless a service chief brings something to me where there’s a problem that’s been proven, then I’m not going in with the idea that I’m going to review these and right away start rolling something back.” He went on to say, “Frankly, I’ve never cared much about two consenting adults and who they go to bed with.”

Later, Senator Mazie Hirono (D-HI) asked him directly, “Is there something innate in being a woman or LGBT that would cause you to believe that they could not be part of a lethal force?” General Mattis replied with a simple, “no.”

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

slatten49 wrote:

That has been mentioned a few times on this thread.

There's "peat" and there's also "repeat". Both are sometimes required. Last night on FOXs Tucker Carlson, a New York obnoxious Democrat congressman kept repeating over and over about the Seals honorable service and Tucker kept repeating the sex change occurred AFTER the honorable service. It was as if that fact didn't matter. It absolutely matters!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

padremike wrote:

There's "peat" and there's also "repeat". Both are sometimes required. Last night on FOXs Tucker Carlson, a New York obnoxious Democrat congressman kept repeating over and over about the Seals honorable service and Tucker kept repeating the sex change occurred AFTER the honorable service. It was as if that fact didn't matter. It absolutely matters!

Beck was transgender, short the physical transformation, all of his life. He did not let it surface/interfere during his time with the Seals.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

slatten49 wrote:

Beck was transgender, short the physical transformation, all of his life. He did not let it surface/interfere during his time with the Seals.

he did his job like a patriot or required no special accommodations.

He did not allow his sexual dysfunction to disrupt his unit.

I see no problem with that.

But answer me this.

If he had changed his mind and decided that he was a man. Would he have ever been a transgender?