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Jul 26, 2017 18:48:22   #
Mr Bombastic
 
bahmer wrote:
I think that Trump has in mind a military that is fit and ready to go to battle and win the battle and not to look like the California queer parade that they have every year.


Oh, IDK. The enemy might actually die laughing, without a shot being fired.

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Jul 26, 2017 18:49:46   #
bahmer
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Oh, IDK. The enemy might actually die laughing, without a shot being fired.


Possibly but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Jul 26, 2017 19:03:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
If you are the enemy and you shoot a transgender do you get credit for two kills?
bahmer wrote:
Possibly but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Jul 26, 2017 19:18:35   #
Carol Kelly
 
slatten49 wrote:
Paul Szoldra
Business Insider,
Wednesday, July 26, 2017

A retired Navy SEAL Team 6 hero who is transgender had a message for President Donald Trump after he announced the US military would bar transgender people from serving.

"Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy," Kristin Beck, a 20-year veteran of the Navy SEALs, told Business Insider on Wednesday. "Transgender doesn't matter. Do your service."

Beck said Trump's abrupt change in policy could negatively affect many currently or wanting to serve in the military. The RAND Corporation estimated in 2016 that there were between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender people serving. Many of them just want to serve their country like everyone else, Beck said.

"Being transgender doesn't affect anyone else," Beck said. "We are liberty's light. If you can't defend that for everyone that's an American citizen, that's not right."

Beck is not just your average service member. Born Christopher Beck, she served for 20 years in the Navy with SEAL Teams 1, 5, and, eventually, the elite 6. She deployed 13 times over two decades, including stints in Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. She received the Bronze Star award for valor and the Purple Heart for wounds suffered in combat. (Those were among Beck's twenty-seven awards/medals/commendations)

"I was defending individual liberty," she said. "I defended for Republicans. I defended for Democrats. I defended for everyone."

In a series of tweets, Trump said the decision was based on the costs of medical services that transgender service members could use. But "the money is negligible," Beck said. "You're talking about .000001% of the military budget.

"They care more about the airplane or the tank than they care about people," Beck said. "They don't care about people. They don't care about human beings."

When asked about potential problems with unit cohesion or war fighting, Beck said those were not issues that would arise from transgender service members, but from leadership.

"A very professional unit with great leadership wouldn't have a problem," Beck said. "I can have a Muslim serving right beside Jerry Falwell, and we're not going to have a problem. It's a leadership issue, not a transgender issue."
Paul Szoldra br Business Insider, br Wednesday, J... (show quote)


Did she pay for her transgender surgery or did we, the taxpayers? I really don't think Jerry Falwell would be serving next to a Muslim. Bad analogy? In fact, who is this person, really?

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Jul 26, 2017 19:21:36   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Did she pay for her transgender surgery or did we, the taxpayers? I really don't think Herry Falwell would be serving next to a Muslim. Bad analogy? In fact, who is this person, really?

Check out the link at the bottom of my second post.

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Jul 26, 2017 19:34:45   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
slatten49 wrote:
Paul Szoldra
Business Insider,
Wednesday, July 26, 2017

A retired Navy SEAL Team 6 hero who is transgender had a message for President Donald Trump after he announced the US military would bar transgender people from serving.

"Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy," Kristin Beck, a 20-year veteran of the Navy SEALs, told Business Insider on Wednesday. "Transgender doesn't matter. Do your service."

Beck said Trump's abrupt change in policy could negatively affect many currently or wanting to serve in the military. The RAND Corporation estimated in 2016 that there were between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender people serving. Many of them just want to serve their country like everyone else, Beck said.

"Being transgender doesn't affect anyone else," Beck said. "We are liberty's light. If you can't defend that for everyone that's an American citizen, that's not right."

Beck is not just your average service member. Born Christopher Beck, she served for 20 years in the Navy with SEAL Teams 1, 5, and, eventually, the elite 6. She deployed 13 times over two decades, including stints in Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. She received the Bronze Star award for valor and the Purple Heart for wounds suffered in combat. (Those were among Beck's twenty-seven awards/medals/commendations)

"I was defending individual liberty," she said. "I defended for Republicans. I defended for Democrats. I defended for everyone."

In a series of tweets, Trump said the decision was based on the costs of medical services that transgender service members could use. But "the money is negligible," Beck said. "You're talking about .000001% of the military budget.

"They care more about the airplane or the tank than they care about people," Beck said. "They don't care about people. They don't care about human beings."

When asked about potential problems with unit cohesion or war fighting, Beck said those were not issues that would arise from transgender service members, but from leadership.

"A very professional unit with great leadership wouldn't have a problem," Beck said. "I can have a Muslim serving right beside Jerry Falwell, and we're not going to have a problem. It's a leadership issue, not a transgender issue."
Paul Szoldra br Business Insider, br Wednesday, J... (show quote)


It's not who you are, it's what you are.
How are you going to be all that you can be in a mixed up body? Get help!

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Jul 26, 2017 19:43:03   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Check out the link at the bottom of my second post.

There's also this...

A Navy SEAL's biggest secret: Life as a transgender
Doug Stanglin, USA TODAY Published 12:22 p.m. ET June 4, 2013 | Updated 12:22 a.m. ET June 5, 2013
Former team members praise Beck's courage to come out after 20 years.

Story Highlights

Chris Beck served as a Navy SEAL for two decades
Beck carried the secret of identifying as female during service
Kristin Beck made the announcement on a LinkedIn page; she has written a book

In the super-secret world of the Navy SEAL, Chris Beck carried around an explosive secret of his own during his 20 years with the elite, all-male unit: a transgender life.

In the memoirs 'Warrior Princess,' published Saturday, retired Navy SEAL Kristin Beck — formerly Chris — writes about life struggling with her sexual identity and then going public.

Chris Beck served 20 years as a Navy SEAL, including seven combat deployments, and earned a Purple Heart and Bronze Star.

Beck retired from Navy SEAL Team 6 in 2011, only months before it raided Osama bin Laden's hide-out, and was always careful to keep the secret close to the vest.

Kristin Beck, 46, who works as a military consultant in the Tampa area, decided in March to go public by posting a new LinkedIn profile picture of herself dressed as a woman.

"I am now taking off all my disguises and letting the world know my true identity as a woman," Beck wrote on her LinkedIn page.

Beck said some SEAL buddies thought at first that it was a joke, but she assured them it wasn't.

Beck began hormone treatments three months ago. She also received laser treatment to remove facial hair.

In the memoirs, Beck notes the irony of one mission as a Navy SEAL in which he was disguised as an Afghan man to blend in with female-hating Taliban men.

"It was weird that I could grow a beard and trick them into thinking I was one of them – and really I'm an Amazon woman in disguise as a U.S. military guy in disguise as a Pashtun!"

The book is dedicated to Beck's family, to the "underdogs, the activists, the downtrodden," and to SEAL teammates, to whom Beck offers a personal message: "I am still the same person with the same experience and the same spirit."

The memoirs, published by Advances Press, notes that Beck has been married twice and has two sons, but was often removed from their early life because of frequent deployments and to avoid dealing with personal issues.

The book includes some reactions from former team members, including praise for Beck's courage in the forward, which was written by former boss, retired Navy SEAL and astronaut William Shepherd.

Other reactions:

• "Being a SEAL is hard. This looks harder."

• "I am thankful that your decision was to confront your challenges rather than, as you stated in your own words, 'put a shotgun in your mouth.'

• "You're a Team Guy, first and foremost, and you always will be. I'll drink a beer with you anytime, anywhere, for any reason, no matter how you are dressed ... especially if you are buying."

Beck's co-author is Anne Speckhard, an adjunct associate professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University Medical School, whose has specialized in post-traumatic stress disorder and counter-terrorism.

What's striking about Beck, Speckhard said in an interview with USA TODAY, is how normal she is. "She's healthy, normal, a next-door-neighbor person."

Speckhard described Beck, who attended the Virginia Military Institute, as a highly competitive individual who played sports in school and always wanted to serve in the military.

Speckhard said she does not see Beck's decision to join the Navy SEALs as an act of overcompensation, rather as fitting a character as a high achiever.

"As a woman, he would have joined the SEALs as well," Speckhard said. The Navy SEALs currently do not take female candidates.

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Jul 26, 2017 19:46:41   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
slatten49 wrote:
Paul Szoldra
Business Insider,
Wednesday, July 26, 2017

A retired Navy SEAL Team 6 hero who is transgender had a message for President Donald Trump after he announced the US military would bar transgender people from serving.

"Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy," Kristin Beck, a 20-year veteran of the Navy SEALs, told Business Insider on Wednesday. "Transgender doesn't matter. Do your service."

Beck said Trump's abrupt change in policy could negatively affect many currently or wanting to serve in the military. The RAND Corporation estimated in 2016 that there were between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender people serving. Many of them just want to serve their country like everyone else, Beck said.

"Being transgender doesn't affect anyone else," Beck said. "We are liberty's light. If you can't defend that for everyone that's an American citizen, that's not right."

Beck is not just your average service member. Born Christopher Beck, she served for 20 years in the Navy with SEAL Teams 1, 5, and, eventually, the elite 6. She deployed 13 times over two decades, including stints in Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. She received the Bronze Star award for valor and the Purple Heart for wounds suffered in combat. (Those were among Beck's twenty-seven awards/medals/commendations)

"I was defending individual liberty," she said. "I defended for Republicans. I defended for Democrats. I defended for everyone."

In a series of tweets, Trump said the decision was based on the costs of medical services that transgender service members could use. But "the money is negligible," Beck said. "You're talking about .000001% of the military budget.

"They care more about the airplane or the tank than they care about people," Beck said. "They don't care about people. They don't care about human beings."

When asked about potential problems with unit cohesion or war fighting, Beck said those were not issues that would arise from transgender service members, but from leadership.

"A very professional unit with great leadership wouldn't have a problem," Beck said. "I can have a Muslim serving right beside Jerry Falwell, and we're not going to have a problem. It's a leadership issue, not a transgender issue."
Paul Szoldra br Business Insider, br Wednesday, J... (show quote)


Please note that he served as a male. His DNA is still male. Today you can be a flea on a dog's butt if you choose and if that's what you want to be then that's supposed to be normal. But those us of us who have common sense know it's BS.

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Jul 26, 2017 19:49:11   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
slatten49 wrote:
There's also this...

A Navy SEAL's biggest secret: Life as a transgender
Doug Stanglin, USA TODAY Published 12:22 p.m. ET June 4, 2013 | Updated 12:22 a.m. ET June 5, 2013
Former team members praise Beck's courage to come out after 20 years.

Story Highlights

Chris Beck served as a Navy SEAL for two decades
Beck carried the secret of identifying as female during service
Kristin Beck made the announcement on a LinkedIn page; she has written a book

In the super-secret world of the Navy SEAL, Chris Beck carried around an explosive secret of his own during his 20 years with the elite, all-male unit: a transgender life.

In the memoirs 'Warrior Princess,' published Saturday, retired Navy SEAL Kristin Beck — formerly Chris — writes about life struggling with her sexual identity and then going public.

Chris Beck served 20 years as a Navy SEAL, including seven combat deployments, and earned a Purple Heart and Bronze Star.

Beck retired from Navy SEAL Team 6 in 2011, only months before it raided Osama bin Laden's hide-out, and was always careful to keep the secret close to the vest.

Kristin Beck, 46, who works as a military consultant in the Tampa area, decided in March to go public by posting a new LinkedIn profile picture of herself dressed as a woman.

"I am now taking off all my disguises and letting the world know my true identity as a woman," Beck wrote on her LinkedIn page.

Beck said some SEAL buddies thought at first that it was a joke, but she assured them it wasn't.

Beck began hormone treatments three months ago. She also received laser treatment to remove facial hair.

In the memoirs, Beck notes the irony of one mission as a Navy SEAL in which he was disguised as an Afghan man to blend in with female-hating Taliban men.

"It was weird that I could grow a beard and trick them into thinking I was one of them – and really I'm an Amazon woman in disguise as a U.S. military guy in disguise as a Pashtun!"

The book is dedicated to Beck's family, to the "underdogs, the activists, the downtrodden," and to SEAL teammates, to whom Beck offers a personal message: "I am still the same person with the same experience and the same spirit."

The memoirs, published by Advances Press, notes that Beck has been married twice and has two sons, but was often removed from their early life because of frequent deployments and to avoid dealing with personal issues.

The book includes some reactions from former team members, including praise for Beck's courage in the forward, which was written by former boss, retired Navy SEAL and astronaut William Shepherd.

Other reactions:

• "Being a SEAL is hard. This looks harder."

• "I am thankful that your decision was to confront your challenges rather than, as you stated in your own words, 'put a shotgun in your mouth.'

• "You're a Team Guy, first and foremost, and you always will be. I'll drink a beer with you anytime, anywhere, for any reason, no matter how you are dressed ... especially if you are buying."

Beck's co-author is Anne Speckhard, an adjunct associate professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University Medical School, whose has specialized in post-traumatic stress disorder and counter-terrorism.

What's striking about Beck, Speckhard said in an interview with USA TODAY, is how normal she is. "She's healthy, normal, a next-door-neighbor person."

Speckhard described Beck, who attended the Virginia Military Institute, as a highly competitive individual who played sports in school and always wanted to serve in the military.

Speckhard said she does not see Beck's decision to join the Navy SEALs as an act of overcompensation, rather as fitting a character as a high achiever.

"As a woman, he would have joined the SEALs as well," Speckhard said. The Navy SEALs currently do not take female candidates.
There's also this... br br A Navy SEAL's biggest ... (show quote)

So... Political ambitions and writing a book. That explains being obnoxious.

But how does one identify as anything secretly? Is this like Hillary identifying as being President?

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Jul 26, 2017 19:50:35   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
padremike wrote:
Please note that he served as a male. His DNA is still male. Today you can be a flea on a dog's butt if you choose and if that's what you want to be then that's supposed to be normal. But those us of us who have common sense know it's BS.

It has been pointed out that Beck's transformation was after retirement.

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Jul 26, 2017 20:05:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Oh, IDK. The enemy might actually die laughing, without a shot being fired.

From the looks of Beck's record/history with the Seals, the enemy was most likely dying without so much as a giggle.

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Jul 26, 2017 20:45:47   #
obipaul
 
I thank you for your service. I think that you have great courage and I pity those who would berate you because they have never learned compassion or even how to think for themselves.

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Jul 26, 2017 20:46:05   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
slatten49 wrote:
Paul Szoldra
Business Insider,
Wednesday, July 26, 2017

A retired Navy SEAL Team 6 hero who is transgender had a message for President Donald Trump after he announced the US military would bar transgender people from serving.

"Let's meet face to face and you tell me I'm not worthy," Kristin Beck, a 20-year veteran of the Navy SEALs, told Business Insider on Wednesday. "Transgender doesn't matter. Do your service."

Beck said Trump's abrupt change in policy could negatively affect many currently or wanting to serve in the military. The RAND Corporation estimated in 2016 that there were between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender people serving. Many of them just want to serve their country like everyone else, Beck said.

"Being transgender doesn't affect anyone else," Beck said. "We are liberty's light. If you can't defend that for everyone that's an American citizen, that's not right."

Beck is not just your average service member. Born Christopher Beck, she served for 20 years in the Navy with SEAL Teams 1, 5, and, eventually, the elite 6. She deployed 13 times over two decades, including stints in Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. She received the Bronze Star award for valor and the Purple Heart for wounds suffered in combat. (Those were among Beck's twenty-seven awards/medals/commendations)

"I was defending individual liberty," she said. "I defended for Republicans. I defended for Democrats. I defended for everyone."

In a series of tweets, Trump said the decision was based on the costs of medical services that transgender service members could use. But "the money is negligible," Beck said. "You're talking about .000001% of the military budget.

"They care more about the airplane or the tank than they care about people," Beck said. "They don't care about people. They don't care about human beings."

When asked about potential problems with unit cohesion or war fighting, Beck said those were not issues that would arise from transgender service members, but from leadership.

"A very professional unit with great leadership wouldn't have a problem," Beck said. "I can have a Muslim serving right beside Jerry Falwell, and we're not going to have a problem. It's a leadership issue, not a transgender issue."
Paul Szoldra br Business Insider, br Wednesday, J... (show quote)




Thanks for sharing the story, Slatts.

But then, you are a true Texan from The Lone Star State where, once upon a time, people were judged on their individual achievements and everything else was irrelevant.

I'm thankful for the service of EVERYONE who has been in the military, regardless of their identity. Hell, I'm even thankful for the service of all the military folks on OPP, regardless of how they have reacted to this story, how they voted or how they treat me on this forum.

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Jul 26, 2017 20:51:51   #
wuzblynd Loc: thomson georgia
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
He. Not she. He was born and served as a male. He can call himself whatever he wants, but he is still a he. You cannot change your sex. Anyone who thinks differently has a mental disorder.





👍👍👍👍👍

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Jul 26, 2017 20:54:54   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Thanks for sharing the story, Slatts.

But then, you are a true Texan from The Lone Star State where, once upon a time, people were judged on their individual achievements and everything else was irrelevant.

I'm thankful for the service of EVERYONE who has been in the military, regardless of their identity. Hell, I'm even thankful for the service of all the military folks on OPP, regardless of how they have reacted to this story, how they voted or how they treat me on this forum.


Obviously you don't know Texans!

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