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Jul 25, 2017 19:44:03   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
kankune wrote:
Shove the pie chart!!


Can't handle the truth? Too brainwashed by the lies, myths and propaganda put out by the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations?

Don't think health care should be a right for ALL? Tell that to those that get it for free courtesy of mine and your tax dollars.

Don't think the government should be involved in paying for health CARE? Tell that to the elderly who paid taxes into the Medicare system for 50 years and now pay premiums for their Medicare. Well, sweetie, the government (taxpayers) already fund 65% of the cost of health CARE in the US, those that generate the most in health CARE costs--the elderly and poor. Ever wondered why? BECAUSE THOSE 2 GROUPS ARE NOT PROFITABLE TO THE HEALTH INSURANCE CORPORATIONS THAT RAPE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OUT OF $500 BILLION IN PROFITS WITHOUT MASSIVE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

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Jul 25, 2017 19:47:33   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
There is a little something called faith based healthcare. It is affordable and people get the treatment they need. And the government has nothing to do with it. If the government would simply get out of the way, we could come up with something better. In fact, someone already has.


What are you going to do with the elderly and poor that generate most of the costs i health CARE?

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Jul 25, 2017 20:41:24   #
Mr Bombastic
 
buffalo wrote:
What are you going to do with the elderly and poor that generate most of the costs i health CARE?


They're covered. Google faith based healthcare. It explains it all. Way better than Obamacare. Besides, there was a time when family took care of their elderly and their poor. If they didn't have family, then the Church stepped in. We didn't need the government. We wouldn't need them today if people just looked out for each other, like they used to.

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Jul 25, 2017 21:12:50   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
They're covered. Google faith based healthcare. It explains it all. Way better than Obamacare. Besides, there was a time when family took care of their elderly and their poor. If they didn't have family, then the Church stepped in. We didn't need the government. We wouldn't need them today if people just looked out for each other, like they used to.


Covered with what? The Eskimos used to leave their elderly, those too sick or too old to travel and carry their part of survival, behind for the polar bears to eat.

When one could pay his doctor with chickens, like they used to? A doctor that got his medical education from a book so he could supplement his barbering income. Ah, the good ole days.

The ACA is bad, but what the republicans are trying to do is much worse for the elderly and poor. Good for the wealthy and health INSURANCE corporations, while kicking the elderly and poor in the teeth.

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Jul 25, 2017 21:22:20   #
Mr Bombastic
 
buffalo wrote:
Covered with what? The Eskimos used to leave their elderly, those too sick or too old to travel and carry their part of survival, behind for the polar bears to eat.

When one could pay his doctor with chickens, like they used to? A doctor that got his medical education from a book so he could supplement his barbering income. Ah, the good ole days.

The ACA is bad, but what the republicans are trying to do is much worse for the elderly and poor. Good for the wealthy and health INSURANCE corporations, while kicking the elderly and poor in the teeth.
Covered with what? The Eskimos used to leave their... (show quote)


Have you read the Republican health care bill? I'm pretty sure you haven't. You're just parroting what the Democrap party tells you. Sucks to be you.

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Jul 25, 2017 21:42:53   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Have you read the Republican health care bill? I'm pretty sure you haven't. You're just parroting what the Democrap party tells you. Sucks to be you.


Why don't you tell me how wonderful it is? Because I think it stinks like the piece of shit it is.

http://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1628

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Jul 25, 2017 22:19:27   #
Mr Bombastic
 
buffalo wrote:
Why don't you tell me how wonderful it is? Because I think it stinks like the piece of shit it is.

http://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1628


How do you know? You haven't read it. Do you realize how stupid that makes you look?

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Jul 25, 2017 23:01:31   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
JFlorio wrote:
......Since I don't believe the government can run anything with out huge amounts of waste, fraud and inefficiency I am against single payer.


Think about this



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Jul 25, 2017 23:08:32   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Excellent point. Probably to many freebies.
ghostgotcha wrote:
Think about this

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Jul 25, 2017 23:24:25   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
JFlorio wrote:
Excellent point. Probably to many freebies.


There is another simple answer which would quickly expand medical care to almost everyone. Something all the liberals like Bernie Sanders are wishing for.

How you ask? Reinstate the draft because once you are in the service you and your family have access to tricare medical insurance and once you are honorably discharged you are eligible for VA health care.

If for some reason you are still not satisfied you can always head down to key west, rent a inner-tube and start paddling South to Cuba.

Oh, another benefit of serving your country Honorably is free college.

I guess for the hate America group, they could always run back over to Canada and use their FREE health care, while they pay more of their income in taxes to support it.



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Jul 26, 2017 01:43:18   #
E
 
Buck a Fuffalo. The world hasn't seen this many buffalo chips since the buffalo herds of the 1700s.

We get it. You are a socialist, democrat, unprogressive leftist that wants single payer health insurance.

We are Capitalists, Republicans, rightists that want open competition and freedom of choice in our health care decisions.

Capitalism has always performed better then socialism. We prefer to have the freedom to make the best for ourselves and our families. You prefer to have us pay for the best for yourself and your family.

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Jul 26, 2017 08:49:44   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
E wrote:
Buck a Fuffalo. The world hasn't seen this many buffalo chips since the buffalo herds of the 1700s.

We get it. You are a socialist, democrat, unprogressive leftist that wants single payer health insurance.

We are Capitalists, Republicans, rightists that want open competition and freedom of choice in our health care decisions.

Capitalism has always performed better then socialism. We prefer to have the freedom to make the best for ourselves and our families. You prefer to have us pay for the best for yourself and your family.
Buck a Fuffalo. The world hasn't seen this many bu... (show quote)


Hey, here's a thought: Why don't you do the research, instead of just endlessly complaining and hurling the same old, overly repetitive insults. Then come back and explain to us how health CARE should or should not be financed -- at least to your satisfaction, since it would be impossible to satisfy the interests of everybody. For that matter, what public policy in the history of civilization has ever satisfied everyone involved? Please get back to us on that strange mystery too, would you?

The truth is that no amount of explanations or mind-boggling actuarial graphs and mathematics will ever satisfy you, since, by your own words, you are stubbornly predisposed to a free-market (read unchecked corporate power), partisan political viewpoint regardless of any evidence to the contrary. Be honest and admit it.

In fact, to illustrate contrast, why don't you explain to the satisfaction of everyone here exactly -- in excruciating detail -- how the private, for-profit health CARE system is now financed in the good ol' US. Be sure not to leave anything out.

While your at it, why don't you explain how we pay for endless, illegal, unConstituional, immoral warmongering around the world?

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Jul 26, 2017 09:02:15   #
reh1946
 
I've had private insurance for years and now medicare.The best ever (out side of a politicians).Every one should have medicare.No haggle with the insurance industry.The system is built on raping the middle class, they have no mouth piece. Your elected officals are paid by bribes to help the wealth.

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Jul 26, 2017 09:07:45   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
reh1946 wrote:
I've had private insurance for years and now medicare.The best ever (out side of a politicians).Every one should have medicare.No haggle with the insurance industry.The system is built on raping the middle class, they have no mouth piece. Your elected officals are paid by bribes to help the wealth.


Ask any person over 65 how they like their government furnished Medicare. That is NOT FREE! Medicare for All is the answer to the health CARE finance dilemma in the US. Of course you raise taxes to pay for it, but since you no longer pay much higher -- ridiculously higher -- premiums for a private ripoff policy, it's a huge net savings for the individual consumer. How many times must that be repeated to be absorbed? No problem, evidently, with raising taxes for war and bank bailouts, though.

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Jul 26, 2017 10:00:40   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
buffalo wrote:
Covered with what? The Eskimos used to leave their elderly, those too sick or too old to travel and carry their part of survival, behind for the polar bears to eat.

When one could pay his doctor with chickens, like they used to? A doctor that got his medical education from a book so he could supplement his barbering income. Ah, the good ole days.

The ACA is bad, but what the republicans are trying to do is much worse for the elderly and poor. Good for the wealthy and health INSURANCE corporations, while kicking the elderly and poor in the teeth.
Covered with what? The Eskimos used to leave their... (show quote)


B.S.. We're not Eskimos and family is family!

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