kankune Loc: Iowa

Well...now we know this was their plan all along. Have you heard of Charlie Gard and what happened to the poor little guy? HELL NO ON THIS! I'll be damned if the government is going to have control whether me or mine live or die! Whose with me!!!!

Bevos

I AM WITH YOU!!! We need to, EN MASSE, send a message to ALL OF out REPS. Not just NO, but, HELL NO!!!

buffalo Loc: Texas

Little Charlie Gard was already dead! He was being kept alive by machines! Have you ever had to make the decision to remove a loved one from life support? I have, my WIFE!

Does the government control whether those on Medicare or Medicaid live or die? I do not think so. Ask my 88 year old father with stents and a pace maker what he thinks of Medicare, or any person on Medicare what they think. Nor would they under (HR676) a Medicare for All health CARE system. It is simply a better way to fund health CARE and bring down the ridiculous costs from health CARE being treated as a profit making commodity. It would save 95% of taxpayers and employers money by NOT having to pay ridiculously high health INSURANCE premiums that fully 40% do NOT go to pay for any ones' health CARE. Instead that 40% pays for inflated administrative costs, multi-million dollar executive salaries and bonuses and for stockholder dividends. Think the ACA was good for health INSURANCE corporations' stock values:

"UnitedHealth, the biggest of the managed care companies, with a market capitalization that is now more than $160 billion, returned 480 percent, dividends included. An investment of $100 in the company’s stock when Obamacare was signed into law would be worth more than $580.50 today."

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/business/health-insurers-profit.html

Under the proposed republican plan they will do even better and the rich will reap even more while old and poor people will be prohibitively costly or non-existent.

Medicare is NOT, nor would Medicare for All be, socialized medicine. If you want to think of socialized health CARE system, think the VA.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Correct . We knew this, as you say all along. Funny how the lib's on OPP are fine with single payer but called all of us every name in the book when we said that was the long term goal of Obamacare.

Babsan

Communists formerly Democrat party are all about power .Destroy the healthcare and than they have complete reign over all people and you have NO say.This is the aim by this Crime Syndicate since the 50's,destruction of a free and prosperous America

E

Just to pick apart one ridiculous claim. You said, "It would save 95% of taxpayers and employers money by NOT having to pay ridiculously high health INSURANCE premiums."
Ninety-five percent? Really? This can reduce costs by ninety-five percent. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds and is. Imagine, we can get all of our health care for only 5% of what we are paying now.

kankune Loc: Iowa

Who the heck is talking about Medicare or medicaid...we're talking about single payer healthcare. Sure the government pays for it...then they tax the hell out of us. The wait time to get into see a doctor is ridiculous. People die waiting, because large amounts of people are going to the doctors for every little thing. Why do you think Canadians flock to the US for medical treatment.


Yes I have. MY BROTHER! If there would've been even a 1% chance for him to get better, we would've tried it. Because we would of had every right to.

There might have been a chance for little Charlie if their sucking one payer government system would have kept their nose OUT OF IT! They drug it out and drug it out til time was no longer on Charlie's side. For one I hope his parents sue the shit out of the hospital. Unfortunately, that won't bring little Charlie back.

Bevos

EXACTLY!!!

kankune Loc: Iowa

More of their true colors Jim.

kankune Loc: Iowa

I hear ya....but they're not going to get complete control and never will. : )

Bevos

Maybe buffalo doesn't work, so he doesn't have to worry about things like taxes being taken out of a PAYCHECK!!! So he doesn't CARE HOW MUCH the working people have to pay for HIS HEALTHCARE!!!

kankune Loc: Iowa

AMEN!!

buffalo Loc: Texas

E, where did I say it would reduce costs by 95%? I said it would save 95% of taxpayers money. Employers would no longer have the burden providing costly health INSURANCE.

Here if you care to educate youself:

http://pnhp.org/blog/2013/07/31/friedman-analysis-of-hr-676-medicare-for-all-would-save-billions/

By eliminating the ridiculously high premiums demanded by private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations, in other words ELIMINATING the middleman in health CARE, and enacting moderate increases in Medicare taxes on ALL incomes, including unearned incomes, 95% of taxpayers would save money and every man, woman and child would have access to needed health CARE.

Bevos

HOW MUCH money would it save 95% of taxpayers???

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Not what he said. He said 95% of tax payers would save money. I don't agree but he could be right. As far as cutting out he middleman he's partially right. Sure your are cutting out the insurance executive and replacing him with government bureaucrats. Since I don't believe the government can run anything with out huge amounts of waste, fraud and inefficiency I am against single payer.