whole2th

The American media is controlled by the Zionists just like the Zionist banksters and lobbyists who control your government. The government is no longer a government of the people, by the people or for the people. Replace "People" with "Banksters and Corporations" and we will be able to understand much of the nonsense that's going on in the US and A regarding Israel.

meridianlesilie Loc: mars

-------prove it !!!!!-----liar --- we went after who was responsible ====bin laden & he is dead !!!!!

whole2th

The references/proof you demand is presented "in spades" in many other posts. Read before you accuse.

Best to start with http://ReThink911.org and http://ae911truth.org Then graduate to http://bollyn.com/15522

You are now 'ignored' as you reply irrationally and unreasonably. PM me if you have a problem reading the materials/links provided.

Israel did 9-11.

Osama bin Laden died months after 9-11. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead.html Look up the funeral announcement printed in Al Wahd newspaper 12-19-01

Richard Rowland

Pentagram Study: The Empire Is Collapsing. Its Solution? More Of The …
Posted on July 24, 2017 by CaptainObvious
Giza Death Star – by Joseph P Farrell

Mr. P.K. saw this article and passed it along, and it’s worth some careful consideration, for it seems that the US Pentagram…er…Pentagon, is admitting that the dream of a unopolar pax Americana simply cannot be sustained. So what’s its solution? More of the same: more surveillance, more arms, more more more…:

Pentagon study declares American empire is ‘collapsing’

Now, I note for the record here, that the article’s author, Nafeez Ahmed, may be familiar to some of my readers, particularly of Hidden Finance, Rogue Networks, and Secret Sorcery, since Mr. Ahmed was a major, early, and consistent critic of the official 9/11 narrative, and consequently, was one of the major sources I cited in that book. When I read the following paragraphs, however, I had a rather different perception of what may be rattling the Pentagram’s cage:

An extraordinary new Pentagon study has concluded that the U.S.-backed international order established after World War 2 is “fraying” and may even be “collapsing”, leading the United States to lose its position of “primacy” in world affairs.

The solution proposed to protect U.S. power in this new “post-primacy” environment is, however, more of the same: more surveillance, more propaganda (“strategic manipulation of perceptions”) and more military expansionism.

The document concludes that the world has entered a fundamentally new phase of transformation in which U.S. power is in decline, international order is unravelling, and the authority of governments everywhere is crumbling.

Having lost its past status of “pre-eminence”, the U.S. now inhabits a dangerous, unpredictable “post-primacy” world, whose defining feature is “resistance to authority”.

Danger comes not just from great power rivals like Russia and China, both portrayed as rapidly growing threats to American interests, but also from the increasing risk of “Arab Spring”-style events. These will erupt not just in the Middle East, but all over the world, potentially undermining trust in incumbent governments for the foreseeable future.

I don’t know about you, but I get the distinctly uncomfortable feeling that a good deal of the Pentagram’s misgivings concerns the American population itself, since it speaks of “resistance to authority” and opines that “Arab spring” events will erupt “all over the world” and thus “undermining trust in incumbent governments” for the foreseeable future.

Gee… one wonders why, when the same “incumbent governments” wage war on their own culture by importing immigrants from a culture and ideology completely foreign to them, when social engineering experiments are pushed on populations by those governments, and when every effort to address grievances peaceably or at the ballot box are opposed by certain elements within each whose agenda is – let us be honest – to assault the very bases of Western culture.

Or to put it country simple and in terms that even a Pentagram analyst can understand, if trust in “incumbent governments” is waning, it is because those governments have earned it.

But wait, there’s more:

The report, based on a year-long intensive research process involving consultation with key agencies across the Department of Defense and U.S. Army, calls for the U.S. government to invest in more surveillance, better propaganda through “strategic manipulation” of public opinion, and a “wider and more flexible” U.S. military.

It is this, I suspect, that gives away the game, for the real concern is not foreign, it’s domestic, and what concerns the Pentagram is the “collapse of the narrative” being used to justify more and more spending on defense and surveillance. Here’s a clue guys: You cannot have it both ways; you cannot claim that radical Islamic terrorism, or threats from Russia and China or alleged Russian interference in elections should be of concern, when you sponsor similar interference in elections in The Ukraine (and yes, guys, it’s TheUkraine, just like it’s The Netherlands and The United Kingdom); you cannot complain of foreign (i.e., Russian) interference when many in positions of power or advisory influence in the government or media of this country hold dual citizenships (usually with a particularly small country in the Middle East); you cannot maintain that Islamic terrorism is an existential threat while continuing to approve of importing more and more people from that region, sponsor said terrorists and their sponsoring nations (Saudi Arabia) and assuring the rest of the country that we’re all safe because (here it comes) you’ve expanded surveillance capacity under that pretext.

The real problem for the Pentagram, in other words, is that the Empire no longer rules with the implicit and tacit support of enough of its subjects:

The document hints that such populist civil unrest is likely to become prominent in Western homelands, including inside the United States.

“To date, U.S. strategists have been fixated on this trend in the greater Middle East. However, the same forces at work there are similarly eroding the reach and authority of governments worldwide… it would be unwise not to recognize that they will mutate, metastasize, and manifest differently over time.”

The U.S. homeland is flagged-up as being especially vulnerable to the breakdown of “traditional authority structures”:

“The United States and its population are increasingly exposed to substantial harm and an erosion of security from individuals and small groups of motivated actors, leveraging the conflu­ence of hyperconnectivity, fear, and increased vulner­ability to sow disorder and uncertainty. This intensely disorienting and dislocating form of resistance to author­ity arrives via physical, virtual, and psychological vio­lence and can create effects that appear substantially out of proportion to the origin and physical size or scale of the proximate hazard or threat.”

There is little reflection, however, on the role of the US government itself in fomenting such endemic distrust, through its own policies.
(Emphasis added)

At the risk of sounding like a litany, and to put it country simple once again, and in terms that even a Pentagram analyst can understand: if trust in “incumbent governments” is waning, it is because those governments have earned it, and they have earned it by treating vast tracts of their countries as if they were but colonies of New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, and, of course, Washington, District of Cesspool, or the City of London, or Brussels, or Berlin. Or, to invoke more elevated language, which might be vaguely familiar to the Pentagram analysts:

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.(U.S. Declaration of Independence)

Though I strongly oppose any idea of a convention of the States, I do understand why some people are so desperate that they entertain and support the idea, because the system simply isn’t working for them. The Boston-to Richmond corridor, Chicago, and Nuttyfornia make policy; the rest of us be damned.

And I strongly suspect Mr. Ahmed is correct, for the hypocrisies in US foreign policy and domestic policy are manifest for all to see. No “manipulation of strategic perceptions” can dispel this fact. But at least it is an interesting admission that it wants to manipulate them and has the capability to do so! Gee… who could’ve guessed?

So who is “the enemy” here, beyond the usual suspects of Russia and China and Iran and North Korea? One doesn’t even need to read between the lines on this one:

Pentagon officials need to simply accept, therefore, that:

“… the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”

Having mourned the loss of U.S. primacy, the Pentagon report sees expanding the U.S. military as the only option.

Read that again: “the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”

If the U.S. homeland is going to increasingly become a battlefield,” that should evidence just how little the Empire is connected to the good of the country and its citizens, and how very subservient it is to other interests. Perhaps, just perhaps, that passage from the Declaration of Independence does have something to do with the Pentagram’s statements.

And perhaps, just maybe, that dual citizenship thing also has something to do with it…

See you on the flip side…

Giza Death Star

Richard Rowland

I had to separate this from the piece I posted, it was too long. However, the point I wanted to make is that this is a long read, only those with the patience and ability to comprehend will take the time to read it. But this piece fits in with the subject that's being discussed. The Author of this piece doesn't mention by name the little country in the middle east, nor does he mention the ethnicity of those with dual citizenship. But we all know who he is referring to. I have never, as most Americans, given much thought to this troublesome situation of how Americans' have been played for suckers by that little country in the middle east and those with dual citizenship.

Sicilianthing

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I post it some other people I know and they get very upset with me and disown me.

samtheyank

One day Israel is going to turn Iran into rubbish and a wasteland. Iran will glow at night. The fools in Iran don't have enough sense to realize it. One Jericho ICBM can wipe Iran right off the map. They have plenty of them waiting to be used. The Damn Fools Of IRAN! Israel will not f@&k with them. BOOM!!!

whole2th

Carrying water for the psychopaths of Israel, to me, seems a foolish path. And, knowing that Israel has attacked their own supposed allies (Lavon affair, USS Liberty, 9/11), your alliance with Israel, IMO, makes you an enemy of the U.S. and pure-blooded yankees.

Are you a dual citizen, Sam?

Psychopathic leadership of Israel have threatened to nuke European cities as well. http://www.rense.com/general34/esde.htm

"And there is much more since 2007. In 2010 the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported Netanyahu’s boast that America was a country easy for him to manipulate http://www.haaretz.com/tricky-bibi-1.302053. In 2015 Congress without consulting President Obama invited Netanyahu to address Congress on the appropriate US foreign policy toward Iran. Congress is accustomed to grovelling at Israeli feet. Every year Congress attends AIPAC’s meeting and pays homage to its liege lord. One would think that the sight of the legislative body affirming its allegiance to Israel would raise questions about what country Congress represents." http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/24/israel-lobby-time-second-edition/

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/23/trumps-appointees-worse-obamas/ "Fact: Iran is the region’s leading proponent of peace and stability. It’s aiding its Syria ally combat the scourge of US-supported terrorism."

If you are drinking the Jews-media Kool-Aid, you would think Iran is the enemy. Iran has not attacked any outsider for nearly 300 years. The US track record is dismal in this regard. Dumb yankees need to awaken to the Jews-media lies and perverse foreign policies based upon those lies.

Yes, the mad dog state of Israel may do just what you say and "turn Iran into rubbish and a wasteland". You'll share responsibility as a foolish water boy for the mad dog state.

Richard Rowland

It's difficult to know what to believe. I read an article that indicated even with their nukes, Israel is no match for Iran if push comes to shove. That's why Israel is attempting to get America to go after Iran. I have never liked Obama, but his attitude towards Israel was the correct one. His red line in the sand that he correctly didn't cross was due to his knowledge of Israel's desire to have Americans' be the suckers, again, and sacrifice our military men, women, and treasure in Syria. Syria is no threat to Americans', however, Israel sees Syria and Iran as impediments to expansion. Still, to blame the Jews for taking advantage of the feckless is a bit unfair. They have learned how to take advantage of the failings that have befallen mankind, since the days of Kane and Able.

whole2th

About "what to believe". We are bombarded by media narratives--narratives driven by the zionist agenda of a 'greater Israel' which is achieved using deception ... a divide and conquer strategy that enlists proxies to fund and do the dirty work. I'm posting this link again for anyone who has not read the short, damning article implicating Israel in 9-11: http://bollyn.com/15522

So, if you would observe the facts for yourself, there is no need to believe anything.

I say start with "Israel did 9-11" and add to that the 70-year old false narratives (exaggerations/lies) about the holohoax.

Are there bad muslims? Sure. They are carrying water for the zionists.

Stop believing the Jews' narratives. Get out from their spell.

whole2th

Israel's High Tech Treachery and Terror.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85dFIhcvuAc

Sicilianthing

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We Have ZERO business in Syria or anywhere else Richard.... but I guess that depends if one is a Federalist and Bankster or not.

Sicilianthing

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The Narrative Spinnnnnn comes from these Assholes !

Guess what they all have in common ?

Alicia Loc: NYC

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I would say that Jew hating and Jew idolizing are different sides of the same coin. Besides the fact that Jesus was a Jew, what did that tribe ever do to gain such adoration?

whole2th

Jesus went against Jewish doctrine and agendas such that he could not really be called a Jew in his thoughts and deeds.

Shoah business relies upon anti-Semitism to sustain the victim status.

There's a Polish saying, "The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."

The depraved acts of 9-11--an Israeli mega-fraud--are stunning examples of projection of Jews own failings upon muslims.