Actually, what "WE" were saying, gOoph, is that WHATEVER happened in the last POTUS campaign with Russia {and China and Iran and Egypt and Pakistan and India and Japan and GB and Germany and France and whoever-else}, has been happening in politics in America since there was an America {and a Russia and a China and a Japan, etc.}, and to American interests, after almost a year of "lefty" know President Trump (R), {or ANY president other than a (D)}, HAS to be guilty of SOMETHING, SOMETIME, and believing that President Trump (R), is intimidated by the "lefty" MSM (D), and "Hollyweird" (D), as was Richard Nixon (R). But you see, THAT was when all "WE" had to go-by was the word {LOLOLOL} of the "drive-by, alphabet channel" "fake," 24/7/365, 96% negative HEADLINES of "Nixon/Watergate." NOT "Natural Born" attention, NOT F & F attention, NOT IRS, {tax-exempt"} meddling, NOT Benghazi, NOT 30,000 "C" {"whatever THAT means," HRC}, unsecured GOVERNMENT emails, UNSECURED, going into and out-of hot Islamic terrorist war-zones, NOT tons of Uranium sold to Russia in return for HUGE "Slick Willie" speaking fees, NOT hundreds of BILLION$ of DOLLAR$ being given to IRAN, NOT hundreds of million$ of dollar$ being transferred to the Clinton Foundation by Russia, and on-and-on; and President Nixon (R), had NO BACKUP!!!

I've detested Democrats for quite awhile now. I detested Donald Trump. The idiot Democrat's gave us Donald Trump. By running a candidate like Hillary they gave many of us no choice. Of course the Russians meddled in our election. Been doing that like forever. Democrats only now have raised hell because Hillary got beat. The question they should ask themselves is why was it so easy to hack Hillary and the DNC? Why aren't they upset with the content of those e-mails? Did Russia force the DNC to conspire to beat Sanders? Did Russia force DNC operatives to talk down about their own supporters. Give me a break. I know a number of Trump voters that were Democrats. Small sampling so statistically not worth any thing, but interesting. None said the e-mails influenced them. They voted for Trump because many Republicans and all Democrats despised him and Hillary was the epitome of the problems in politics. In other words a protest vote. The little liberal snowflakes need to go to their safe space and hide. The Russians are coming!

How do you know that all those leaks about Hillary "didn't change any votes"? Also, there is an ongoing investigation about collusion: wait for its findings to say NO COLLUSION. But my only point in the thread I noted was that Russia meddled in our election; almost every Rightie scoffed or mocked such an idea (besides the name-calling and insults by others over this "commie bs"). Read the comments. They were all wrong. None are objective, inquisitive, or reflective. High-fiving each other over their attacks on me. Children.

When Russian involvement is proved in this election, I expect all u Nay-sayers to realize your ideological blindness
First: Ooph on Dec 13, 2016 05:49:48

It's been proven. Realize your ideological blindness, please. Thank you. No need to kiss my ring or bow or anything like that. Your chagrin works fine.

If only I could count on that.

I know that many of you, like Trump, will be derisive and dismissive of America's Intelligence Community and not accept that you were wrong and they are right about Russian meddling in our election specifically to benefit Trump. Effectively, you are saying the Department of Homeland Security, the Office of National Security, the CIA, and FBI, as well as 13 other agencies are all lying to undermine Trump's unpopular and narrow victory. All of them are simply butt-hurt over his flimsy win? Soros has paid off our entire Intelligence Community, as well as those overseas, and all the secretaries and support personnel, right? Really?

The argument Trump used early on to disparage those agencies was that they were wrong before about WMDs in Iraq; the CIA director himself told Bush that there were no WMDs in Iraq. Now we have Trump Jr, who lied about not having meetings with Russian representatives and changed his story four times on the meeting he admitted to, proven by emails as well. And Jared Kushner, who has amended his security clearance form four times to add Russian contacts. And Paul Mannafort, who lied about his meetings with the Russians. And Flynn, who lied to Congress about such meetings. And Sessions, who lied to Congress about such meetings. This is all proven and not conjecture. Why all these lies if the meetings were innocent, as later claimed? No cognitive dissonance for you Righties in this huge pile of BS? Coincidence all the lies and attempts to coverup meetings with Russia?

You have two choices to deny Russian involvement in the 2016 election: a plea of insanity or you are legally blind. My bad. There are more choices. Advanced Stupidity, Ideological loyalty, and you don't really care about the truth or America. Or you colluded with Russia.

Could you give us folks in the peanut gallery a time frame? Today, tomorrow, a week, 6 months, 2 years, or 8 years? I mean I personally keep getting my hopes up only to have them dashed continuously. Until then how about you kiss our butts because for 8 months you have been wrong.

I am serious. You can't have an unlimited time frame like Mueller. Again you have been saying, or rather your side has been spouting nonsense for 8 months. That is a long time of saying that proof is around the corner. I mean when we accused Obama of gun running into Mexico, we delivered proof. When we accused Obama, Hillary, and their henchwoman Rice of lying about Benghazi, we delivered proof. When we accused Obama of lying about Obamacare, we delivered proof.

How about you either put up or shut up sometime in the next month?

Could you give us folks in the peanut gallery a time frame? Today, tomorrow, a week, 6 months, 2 years, or 8 years? I mean I personally keep getting my hopes up only to have them dashed continuously. Until then how about you kiss our butts because for 8 months you have been wrong.

I am serious. You can't have an unlimited time frame like Mueller. Again you have been saying, or rather your side has been spouting nonsense for 8 months. That is a long time of saying that proof is around the corner. I mean when we accused Obama of gun running into Mexico, we delivered proof. When we accused Obama, Hillary, and their henchwoman Rice of lying about Benghazi, we delivered proof. When we accused Obama of lying about Obamacare, we delivered proof.

How about you either put up or shut up sometime in the next month?