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Jun 23, 2017 13:42:43   #
thinksense
 
What, you didn’t realize you were enslaved?

What do you call it when you spend your life working for the benefit of others.

You work from your late teens till at least age 65, many of you at a job you hate, to earn the "money"that they allow you to keep after paying your taxes, to pay state sales taxes, the rent, or "buy" a property that you can never truly own. If you think you can, try not paying the rent called "property taxes" and you will soon find out who really owns "your" property.

Try to build or change something on that property without the elite’s local goons giving you expense and time consuming "permits" allowing you to work on "your property".

Similarly try not paying the registration rent for your overpriced car.

Overpriced because of all the taxes, charges, etc. placed on the dealer who sells it to you, and all the people who built it, transported it, washed it, etc. before you bought it. Realize that all those people and companies have had to pay taxes, licensing fees, "jumping through hoop" fees which increases the cost of their services and products that you work so much of your lifetime to get.

Believe it or not, if you have an accountant analyze your income, you will eventually come to the conclusion that of every dollar you earn, YOU only get to spend 10cents in value. The rest passes through hand after hand ending up in the hands of the elites who rule and their lackies.

My god, they have you working your whole life for pieces of paper that they print up, declaring the value as they see fit, and devalue (inflation) which steals more value from you if you were prudent enough to save some rather than spending it all.

They make rules for you called Laws".

Every law forces you to do something you don’t want to do; or stops you from doing something you do want to do.

They enforce these rules using people who are authorized to ultimately kill you if you insist upon resisting their laws, "Law Enforcement Agents".

Pass enough laws and you end up living in a world where the lay people can only do what they are allowed and forbidden to do anything else; (as the USSR’s infamous slogan, "Everything allowed is Mandated; everything not mandated is Forbidden). Great way to live.

I won’t go on and bore you further with the obvious, but many of you also don’t realize that everything you think you know is taught to you to keep you scared, confused, unthinking and content to be a docile slave.

To keep you scared they arrange to have constant boogy men from whom they will protect you, and therefore have constant wars. Now they have come up with the ideal boogy man, the "Terrorist". You can never win a war against him since he isn’t a country you can bomb or invade. He doesn’t wear a uniform, he looks just like your neighbor, and in fact he doesn’t even have to exist. All they have to do is pretend he exists, publicizing his atrocities and hatred for you. They trigger "monster in the closet" scenarios, using paid or drugged, conned or hypnotized dupes (Lenin called them "useful idiots) to carry them out or pretend to carry them out, publicize these scenarios in their controlled /owned media, (remember you can’t run a newspaper, magazine radio, TV station without those ubiquitous permits, so you better be "PC" or else.).

It made me wonder at all the mistakes they were making, like collapsing building 7 one half hour after the BBC reported it already collapsed. Collapsing the buildings into their own footprint, which could never happen with a tall building. Remember a few years ago you got to watch them collapsing 4 and 5 story buildings in Las Vegas and explaining how they had to set the charges to detonate at just the right time and place so the building would fall into it’s own footprint.

Or having the same "victim family members" putting on a show of crying and grief, but the same "crisis actors" were identifiable at several different "school shootings". In one of these they even had pictures of the "bereaved" drinking coffee and laughing in the back ground as they were between movie shots.

Every one of these "False Flag" scenarios since and including the "Death Camp" scenarios at the end of the Second World War have had big obvious mistakes that only rank amateurs would make, included. The recent "truck massacre" where over 150 were supposedly killed or injured by a truck that had no blood on it, not even a broken headlight or cracked windshield which supposedly showed more than 15 bullet holes, (the glue on variety).

At first I wondered why these errors were allowed to see daylight. But wait, these errors are there for a reason I think, to help gauge the cupidity/stupidity of the public. Also to scare the Hell out of those of us who realize what is really going on, and the hopelessness of our attempts to wake the useful idiots to what is going on. Notice how blatant in lying, and political gangsterism they have gotten. They don’t even try to hide it or excuse it anymore. "You see that blue wall ?" As they point to a bright red wall. And you better agree that it is blue.

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Jun 23, 2017 15:25:19   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
thinksense wrote:
What, you didn’t realize you were enslaved?

What do you call it when you spend your life working for the benefit of others.

You work from your late teens till at least age 65, many of you at a job you hate, to earn the "money"that they allow you to keep after paying your taxes, to pay state sales taxes, the rent, or "buy" a property that you can never truly own. If you think you can, try not paying the rent called "property taxes" and you will soon find out who really owns "your" property.

Try to build or change something on that property without the elite’s local goons giving you expense and time consuming "permits" allowing you to work on "your property".

Similarly try not paying the registration rent for your overpriced car.

Overpriced because of all the taxes, charges, etc. placed on the dealer who sells it to you, and all the people who built it, transported it, washed it, etc. before you bought it. Realize that all those people and companies have had to pay taxes, licensing fees, "jumping through hoop" fees which increases the cost of their services and products that you work so much of your lifetime to get.

Believe it or not, if you have an accountant analyze your income, you will eventually come to the conclusion that of every dollar you earn, YOU only get to spend 10cents in value. The rest passes through hand after hand ending up in the hands of the elites who rule and their lackies.

My god, they have you working your whole life for pieces of paper that they print up, declaring the value as they see fit, and devalue (inflation) which steals more value from you if you were prudent enough to save some rather than spending it all.

They make rules for you called Laws".

Every law forces you to do something you don’t want to do; or stops you from doing something you do want to do.

They enforce these rules using people who are authorized to ultimately kill you if you insist upon resisting their laws, "Law Enforcement Agents".

Pass enough laws and you end up living in a world where the lay people can only do what they are allowed and forbidden to do anything else; (as the USSR’s infamous slogan, "Everything allowed is Mandated; everything not mandated is Forbidden). Great way to live.

I won’t go on and bore you further with the obvious, but many of you also don’t realize that everything you think you know is taught to you to keep you scared, confused, unthinking and content to be a docile slave.

To keep you scared they arrange to have constant boogy men from whom they will protect you, and therefore have constant wars. Now they have come up with the ideal boogy man, the "Terrorist". You can never win a war against him since he isn’t a country you can bomb or invade. He doesn’t wear a uniform, he looks just like your neighbor, and in fact he doesn’t even have to exist. All they have to do is pretend he exists, publicizing his atrocities and hatred for you. They trigger "monster in the closet" scenarios, using paid or drugged, conned or hypnotized dupes (Lenin called them "useful idiots) to carry them out or pretend to carry them out, publicize these scenarios in their controlled /owned media, (remember you can’t run a newspaper, magazine radio, TV station without those ubiquitous permits, so you better be "PC" or else.).

It made me wonder at all the mistakes they were making, like collapsing building 7 one half hour after the BBC reported it already collapsed. Collapsing the buildings into their own footprint, which could never happen with a tall building. Remember a few years ago you got to watch them collapsing 4 and 5 story buildings in Las Vegas and explaining how they had to set the charges to detonate at just the right time and place so the building would fall into it’s own footprint.

Or having the same "victim family members" putting on a show of crying and grief, but the same "crisis actors" were identifiable at several different "school shootings". In one of these they even had pictures of the "bereaved" drinking coffee and laughing in the back ground as they were between movie shots.

Every one of these "False Flag" scenarios since and including the "Death Camp" scenarios at the end of the Second World War have had big obvious mistakes that only rank amateurs would make, included. The recent "truck massacre" where over 150 were supposedly killed or injured by a truck that had no blood on it, not even a broken headlight or cracked windshield which supposedly showed more than 15 bullet holes, (the glue on variety).

At first I wondered why these errors were allowed to see daylight. But wait, these errors are there for a reason I think, to help gauge the cupidity/stupidity of the public. Also to scare the Hell out of those of us who realize what is really going on, and the hopelessness of our attempts to wake the useful idiots to what is going on. Notice how blatant in lying, and political gangsterism they have gotten. They don’t even try to hide it or excuse it anymore. "You see that blue wall ?" As they point to a bright red wall. And you better agree that it is blue.
What, you didn’t realize you were enslaved? br b... (show quote)


Income taxes are a Trojan horse - while we're complaining about them, they're sneaking in many times more in taxes hidden throughout society. There is NOTHING in the country that isn't taxed in some way, not even air. They're even so blatant now, they talk about lowering income tax rates in a "revenue neutral" manner, meaning - you'll pay the same amount of tax ( of not more ), even though your "rate" is lower, because your "effective rate" hasn't been effected, due to the reduction/elimination of credits, exemptions and/or deductions. That way, they can claim they lowered taxes - without losing any money. They really DO think we're all idiots.

Then there are the "point of sale" taxes, such as sales taxes, that force you to pay taxes - on taxes. Federal and State excise taxes are most often included in the price of an item, causing you to pay tax on an amount of tax you're already paying. Counties and cities LOVE Federal and State tax increases, because that generates even more income for them. BTW, anyone "incorporated", may avoid most of those taxes - by having their corporation buy their car, house, boat, airplane, groceries, entertainment, etc. You'd be surprised to know how few rich people own their shit - their corporations own it all - and they get to deduct the costs of "ownership" from their taxes as well as avoiding paying most of them.

The middle class and poor people, pay the MOST per dollar amount in taxes, that's city, State and Federal taxes. I have a modestly wealthy friend who pays 23% in combined taxes ( income, sales, etc. ) while I pay 57%. There's nothing unfair about that, right?

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Jun 23, 2017 20:01:06   #
thinksense
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Income taxes are a Trojan horse - while we're complaining about them, they're sneaking in many times more in taxes hidden throughout society. There is NOTHING in the country that isn't taxed in some way, not even air. They're even so blatant now, they talk about lowering income tax rates in a "revenue neutral" manner, meaning - you'll pay the same amount of tax ( of not more ), even though your "rate" is lower, because your "effective rate" hasn't been effected, due to the reduction/elimination of credits, exemptions and/or deductions. That way, they can claim they lowered taxes - without losing any money. They really DO think we're all idiots.

Then there are the "point of sale" taxes, such as sales taxes, that force you to pay taxes - on taxes. Federal and State excise taxes are most often included in the price of an item, causing you to pay tax on an amount of tax you're already paying. Counties and cities LOVE Federal and State tax increases, because that generates even more income for them. BTW, anyone "incorporated", may avoid most of those taxes - by having their corporation buy their car, house, boat, airplane, groceries, entertainment, etc. You'd be surprised to know how few rich people own their shit - their corporations own it all - and they get to deduct the costs of "ownership" from their taxes as well as avoiding paying most of them.

The middle class and poor people, pay the MOST per dollar amount in taxes, that's city, State and Federal taxes. I have a modestly wealthy friend who pays 23% in combined taxes ( income, sales, etc. ) while I pay 57%. There's nothing unfair about that, right?
Income taxes are a Trojan horse - while we're comp... (show quote)


Ipn,

You bring up the “hidden taxes”, but you don’t even begin to sctratch the surface.
You indicate the tax of 57% you pay, while your wealthy friend pays only 23%.
Actually, both of you , (assuming you buy products with your money) are actually paying much more than that.

As I mention above, when you buy a product, YOU are the one who ultimately pays all the taxes of all the people involved in producing that product and bringing it to you.

Take a hypothetical product that sells for $10.00.
When you buy that product you must first poduce $12.70 (your direct taxes) in work to have $10 plus sales tax in money to spend.(I’ll ignore the fraction that you lose to accumulate the 8 cent sales tax below for the moment.)
Now you have to pay, say, an 8% sales tax, so you must have $10.08 in hand for the purchase.

The salesman who sells the product makes his income from selling the product for the store he works in. So let’s say he gets 50cents of what you pay as commission or wage. He has to pay taxes. Let’s say he has only a 25% bracket to pay. 6 ½ cents of the cost to you goes through his hands to the bosses. That is 6 ½ cents of YOUR MONEY that you had to give him so he can pay his taxes (with money that came out of YOUR pocket) .

Now the store manager gets (to make it simple lets call it another 50cents) of the profit in his paycheck, and he has to pay tax on that. Again the money he pays in taxes has come out of your pocket.

And the store owner makes his profit on which he has to pay taxes. More of your money.

And the store building owner who out of the rent he gets, has to pass on your money as taxes he has to pay. That was your money.

Then the warehouseman, the owner of the warehouse, the truck driver, the trucking company, the jobber, the factory worker, his employee who runs the machine that made the product, the materials people (raw materials) etc. etc. etc.

Then these people have to pay the same sort of taxes when they spend what is left of your money.

And so on indefinitely.

If you carry it far enough you will find that all of us are paying at least 90% of our working life to earn money that simply passes from hand to hand until it ends in the hands of those who claim that you need them to tell you what you can and can not do, and they have your money to protect you from those evil people we are calling enemies this year or the world will end, and you don't even have to call 'em '"MASSA".

I hope you are greatful to them.

Check with your accountant. That is where I learned this. My accountant who was a former IRS special.

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Jun 24, 2017 08:02:56   #
GRB777
 
Well said "thinksense". One of the ironies of it all is that most of the slaves are now tattooing themselves; identifying themselves as slaves. They are in bondage and they are thrilled about it. Lest any of you think you haven't been completely brain washed. Satan has a sense of humor I'll give him that. There is a song entitled "Eye in the sky" ; authored by Satan himself, yes folks he writes a lot of what you "dance" to. One verse states- "I'm the maker of rules dealing with fools, I can cheat you blind". His latest "masterpiece" is sung by Katie Perry he boasts he has all of you moving to the same rhythm. Practically none of you have any idea what I'm talking about- this same satan has you staring into your updated digital device. Satan gave you that device as well; it's working as planned, as most of you have lost touch with reality.

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Jun 24, 2017 08:15:41   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
GRB777 wrote:
Well said "thinksense". One of the ironies of it all is that most of the slaves are now tattooing themselves; identifying themselves as slaves. They are in bondage and they are thrilled about it. Lest any of you think you haven't been completely brain washed. Satan has a sense of humor I'll give him that. There is a song entitled "Eye in the sky" ; authored by Satan himself, yes folks he writes a lot of what you "dance" to. One verse states- "I'm the maker of rules dealing with fools, I can cheat you blind". His latest "masterpiece" is sung by Katie Perry he boasts he has all of you moving to the same rhythm. Practically none of you have any idea what I'm talking about- this same satan has you staring into your updated digital device. Satan gave you that device as well; it's working as planned, as most of you have lost touch with reality.
Well said "thinksense". One of the ironi... (show quote)


A word about tattoos. I have one; a Military Police insignia on my shoulder. I earned that one the hard way and I wear it as a sort of boast.



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Jun 24, 2017 10:15:34   #
GRB777
 
And you think the military aren't slaves to the system. You also wore "dog tags"; the military are trained murderers killing on command. Whatever you do don't give me the rubbish about keeping me safe. Every war this country has fought was started by a false flag event, no exceptions. You have been lied to from birth and you've never made an effort to get the truth. It takes real courage to step outside the box and refuse to just go along. You're proud of your tattoo because you're still barking on command, good slave.

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Jun 24, 2017 10:28:29   #
trucksterbud
 
thinksense wrote:
What, you didn’t realize you were enslaved?

What do you call it when you spend your life working for the benefit of others.

You work from your late teens till at least age 65, many of you at a job you hate, to earn the "money"that they allow you to keep after paying your taxes, to pay state sales taxes, the rent, or "buy" a property that you can never truly own. If you think you can, try not paying the rent called "property taxes" and you will soon find out who really owns "your" property.

Try to build or change something on that property without the elite’s local goons giving you expense and time consuming "permits" allowing you to work on "your property".

Similarly try not paying the registration rent for your overpriced car.

Overpriced because of all the taxes, charges, etc. placed on the dealer who sells it to you, and all the people who built it, transported it, washed it, etc. before you bought it. Realize that all those people and companies have had to pay taxes, licensing fees, "jumping through hoop" fees which increases the cost of their services and products that you work so much of your lifetime to get.

Believe it or not, if you have an accountant analyze your income, you will eventually come to the conclusion that of every dollar you earn, YOU only get to spend 10cents in value. The rest passes through hand after hand ending up in the hands of the elites who rule and their lackies.

My god, they have you working your whole life for pieces of paper that they print up, declaring the value as they see fit, and devalue (inflation) which steals more value from you if you were prudent enough to save some rather than spending it all.

They make rules for you called Laws".

Every law forces you to do something you don’t want to do; or stops you from doing something you do want to do.

They enforce these rules using people who are authorized to ultimately kill you if you insist upon resisting their laws, "Law Enforcement Agents".

Pass enough laws and you end up living in a world where the lay people can only do what they are allowed and forbidden to do anything else; (as the USSR’s infamous slogan, "Everything allowed is Mandated; everything not mandated is Forbidden). Great way to live.

I won’t go on and bore you further with the obvious, but many of you also don’t realize that everything you think you know is taught to you to keep you scared, confused, unthinking and content to be a docile slave.

To keep you scared they arrange to have constant boogy men from whom they will protect you, and therefore have constant wars. Now they have come up with the ideal boogy man, the "Terrorist". You can never win a war against him since he isn’t a country you can bomb or invade. He doesn’t wear a uniform, he looks just like your neighbor, and in fact he doesn’t even have to exist. All they have to do is pretend he exists, publicizing his atrocities and hatred for you. They trigger "monster in the closet" scenarios, using paid or drugged, conned or hypnotized dupes (Lenin called them "useful idiots) to carry them out or pretend to carry them out, publicize these scenarios in their controlled /owned media, (remember you can’t run a newspaper, magazine radio, TV station without those ubiquitous permits, so you better be "PC" or else.).

It made me wonder at all the mistakes they were making, like collapsing building 7 one half hour after the BBC reported it already collapsed. Collapsing the buildings into their own footprint, which could never happen with a tall building. Remember a few years ago you got to watch them collapsing 4 and 5 story buildings in Las Vegas and explaining how they had to set the charges to detonate at just the right time and place so the building would fall into it’s own footprint.

Or having the same "victim family members" putting on a show of crying and grief, but the same "crisis actors" were identifiable at several different "school shootings". In one of these they even had pictures of the "bereaved" drinking coffee and laughing in the back ground as they were between movie shots.

Every one of these "False Flag" scenarios since and including the "Death Camp" scenarios at the end of the Second World War have had big obvious mistakes that only rank amateurs would make, included. The recent "truck massacre" where over 150 were supposedly killed or injured by a truck that had no blood on it, not even a broken headlight or cracked windshield which supposedly showed more than 15 bullet holes, (the glue on variety).

At first I wondered why these errors were allowed to see daylight. But wait, these errors are there for a reason I think, to help gauge the cupidity/stupidity of the public. Also to scare the Hell out of those of us who realize what is really going on, and the hopelessness of our attempts to wake the useful idiots to what is going on. Notice how blatant in lying, and political gangsterism they have gotten. They don’t even try to hide it or excuse it anymore. "You see that blue wall ?" As they point to a bright red wall. And you better agree that it is blue.
What, you didn’t realize you were enslaved? br b... (show quote)


Ya, I have been posting information along this line for years. Here on OPP and elsewhere. Glad to see someone else aware of this..

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Jun 24, 2017 11:12:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
GRB777 wrote:
And you think the military aren't slaves to the system. You also wore "dog tags"; the military are trained murderers killing on command. Whatever you do don't give me the rubbish about keeping me safe. Every war this country has fought was started by a false flag event, no exceptions. You have been lied to from birth and you've never made an effort to get the truth. It takes real courage to step outside the box and refuse to just go along. You're proud of your tattoo because you're still barking on command, good slave.
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I suppose what you do is snivel on command. Like a good little coward, you try and denigrate men and women who stood in harm's way so whiny-assed little pussies like you wouldn't have to. It takes no courage, but it requires a lot of gall to hide behind self-righteous platitudes to explain away your own blatant cowardice and chickenshit shirking of responsibility.
It takes one hell of an imagination to think provocations like the attack on Pearl Harbor was a "false flag." You are an idiot, a liar, and a coward.
You have absolutely no understanding of the reality of geopolitics. Like nature, it abhors a vacuum. Your grasp of reality is tenuous at best. That seems to be a defining characteristic of loudmouth cowards.

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Jun 24, 2017 11:28:59   #
thinksense
 
GRB777 wrote:
Well said "thinksense". One of the ironies of it all is that most of the slaves are now tattooing themselves; identifying themselves as slaves. They are in bondage and they are thrilled about it. Lest any of you think you haven't been completely brain washed. Satan has a sense of humor I'll give him that. There is a song entitled "Eye in the sky" ; authored by Satan himself, yes folks he writes a lot of what you "dance" to. One verse states- "I'm the maker of rules dealing with fools, I can cheat you blind". His latest "masterpiece" is sung by Katie Perry he boasts he has all of you moving to the same rhythm. Practically none of you have any idea what I'm talking about- this same satan has you staring into your updated digital device. Satan gave you that device as well; it's working as planned, as most of you have lost touch with reality.
Well said "thinksense". One of the ironi... (show quote)


This tattoo thing sure seemed to come out of no where all of a sudden. 10 years ago, when you saw someone with a tattoo you would think to yourself, “Idiot”. Even a comedian who was known for smashing water melons on stage made the comment on observing a tattooed guy in the audience, “I see you have a tattoo. That means you are an idiot!” and it got quite a laugh.

When I was in the Marine Corps a few of the guys got their serial number tattooed on their ankle and under their arm so they would have a chance of being identified if they got blown to pieces, but even they put the tattoos where they wouldn’t be noticed.

But suddenly we have a whole plague of tattoos, on legs, necks, shoulders, buttocks, backs, literally everywhere, most labeling obvious low intelligence slaves. But what shocked me was my grand daughter, while in college, getting a large tattoo of pretty flowers on her back. She told me she “Just got the impulse to do it.”

Sure makes it easy to identify the wearer.

Where did that impulse suddenly come from? At first, to me it appeared to have come on like magic. Then I noticed an article in a technical journal, about new electrical technology that allows messages to be beamed directly to either an individual, who will be the only one who hears this message, while those around him can't hear it. or conversely puts words/ideas into a large group's heads, without them realizing where it comes from. These devices look just like innocent boxes. Easily mounted on trucks. Maybe the urge to "Get a tattoo" was a trial run of some of these devices. And tested at colleges, where the kids are being programed to become docile (or not so docile) useful idiots.

I’ve never believed in the Biblical Satan, though I understand that some of the “elite” worship at his image on some of their “private” retreats. I still don’t believe in the biblical version of Satan, but I do believe in the human Satan. There are enough of them around. And they do have the technology to cause people to react/obey to what would best be called "silent commands". They do use some of these electronic devices in developing street riots, or marches, and at various gatherings. Look for a truck with these boxes mounted at the next street riot, speech or march you are at.

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Jun 24, 2017 11:43:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
thinksense wrote:
This tattoo thing sure seemed to come out of no where all of a sudden. 10 years ago, when you saw someone with a tattoo you would think to yourself, “Idiot”. Even a comedian who was known for smashing water melons on stage made the comment on observing a tattooed guy in the audience, “I see you have a tattoo. That means you are an idiot!” and it got quite a laugh.

When I was in the Marine Corps a few of the guys got their serial number tattooed on their ankle and under their arm so they would have a chance of being identified if they got blown to pieces, but even they put the tattoos where they wouldn’t be noticed.

But suddenly we have a whole plague of tattoos, on legs, necks, shoulders, buttocks, backs, literally everywhere, most labeling obvious low intelligence slaves. But what shocked me was my grand daughter, while in college, getting a large tattoo of pretty flowers on her back. She told me she “Just got the impulse to do it.”

Sure makes it easy to identify the wearer.

Where did that impulse suddenly come from? At first, to me it appeared to have come on like magic. Then I noticed an article in a technical journal, about new electrical technology that allows messages to be beamed directly to either an individual, who will be the only one who hears this message, while those around him can't hear it. or conversely puts words/ideas into a large group's heads, without them realizing where it comes from. These devices look just like innocent boxes. Easily mounted on trucks. Maybe the urge to "Get a tattoo" was a trial run of some of these devices. And tested at colleges, where the kids are being programed to become docile (or not so docile) useful idiots.

I’ve never believed in the Biblical Satan, though I understand that some of the “elite” worship at his image on some of their “private” retreats. I still don’t believe in the biblical version of Satan, but I do believe in the human Satan. There are enough of them around. And they do have the technology to cause people to react/obey to what would best be called "silent commands". They do use some of these electronic devices in developing street riots, or marches, and at various gatherings. Look for a truck with these boxes mounted at the next street riot, speech or march you are at.
This tattoo thing sure seemed to come out of no wh... (show quote)


So, when you see someone with a tattoo indicating military service, you think them to be an idiot?

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Jun 24, 2017 13:00:44   #
thinksense
 
I think that anyone wearing any tattoo is exercising his desire to let the world know something about himself.

If his desire is to glorify his miltary experience he might well tattoo something like a Marine emblem, or a Military Police emblem on his body.

It all depends upon his psychic needs, or his programing.

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Jun 24, 2017 13:04:51   #
thinksense
 
Btw, I also think the same of any avatar he might use on this board.

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Jun 24, 2017 20:36:01   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
thinksense wrote:
I think that anyone wearing any tattoo is exercising his desire to let the world know something about himself.

If his desire is to glorify his miltary experience he might well tattoo something like a Marine emblem, or a Military Police emblem on his body.

It all depends upon his psychic needs, or his programing.


What of the programming of those who take issue with this? Who have some sort of need to pseudo-psychoanalyze the motives of someone who is simply proud of his service?
Regarding avatars, perhaps I should streamline mine a bit.
BTW, thank you for your service. How many of your buddies have Marine tattoos?



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Jun 25, 2017 01:28:20   #
thinksense
 
Loki wrote:
What of the programming of those who take issue with this? Who have some sort of need to pseudo-psychoanalyze the motives of someone who is simply proud of his service?
Regarding avatars, perhaps I should streamline mine a bit.
BTW, thank you for your service. How many of your buddies have Marine tattoos?


You ask, “How many of your buddies have Marine tattoos?”

Combat buddies, of the ones I kept in communication with, I don’t think any. Though I believe one did have his serial number tattooed on the inside left ankle, and under his left armpit. Sadly, they have all passed on.

You ask, “ What of the programming of those who take issue with this? Who have some sort of need to pseudo-psychoanalyze the motives of someone who is simply proud of his service?”

I doubt that there is much psychoanalysis involved. I think it is mainly a matter of being shocked at the tattooed person being willing to mark themselves for life for what to the observer seems a silly reason. As for me, to use the old Clark Gable line, “Frankly Scarlet, I don”t give a damn.”

I can however understand the pride of having proven yourself in combat. That is a natural male instinct. And memorializing it with a tattoo is certainly not wrong.

Btw, are you familiar with the origin of holding up two (not just one) fingers in a derisory gesture? As I understand it, during one of the English internecine wars, the Kings men were suffering many casualties from the oppositions bowmen, and if one was captured they would cut off his 2nd and 3'd fingers (the ones needed to pull and release the bowstring). Bowmen would stand on their hillside or castle and hold up their fingers to demonstrate that they still had them. And this gesture has been used to denigrate opponents ever since. At least in England. Why we use only one finger I don’t know.

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Jun 25, 2017 01:56:24   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
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You ask, “How many of your buddies have Marine tattoos?”

Combat buddies, of the ones I kept in communication with, I don’t think any. Though I believe one did have his serial number tattooed on the inside left ankle, and under his left armpit. Sadly, they have all passed on.

You ask, “ What of the programming of those who take issue with this? Who have some sort of need to pseudo-psychoanalyze the motives of someone who is simply proud of his service?”

I doubt that there is much psychoanalysis involved. I think it is mainly a matter of being shocked at the tattooed person being willing to mark themselves for life for what to the observer seems a silly reason. As for me, to use the old Clark Gable line, “Frankly Scarlet, I don”t give a damn.”

I can however understand the pride of having proven yourself in combat. That is a natural male instinct. And memorializing it with a tattoo is certainly not wrong.

Btw, are you familiar with the origin of holding up two (not just one) fingers in a derisory gesture? As I understand it, during one of the English internecine wars, the Kings men were suffering many casualties from the oppositions bowmen, and if one was captured they would cut off his 2nd and 3'd fingers (the ones needed to pull and release the bowstring). Bowmen would stand on their hillside or castle and hold up their fingers to demonstrate that they still had them. And this gesture has been used to denigrate opponents ever since. At least in England. Why we use only one finger I don’t know.
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It wasn't internecine war. The French had a habit of doing this to English archers they captured. The practice began during the Hundred Years War. After the French had suffered horrendous losses at the battles of Crecy and Poitiers, they developed a hatred of English archers and the War Bow. Amputation of fingers was frequently accompanied by blinding and castration also. Agincourt didn't do much to improve their opinion, either.
As for the other, I suppose you could apply your reasoning to wearing a cap or jacket with some sort of logo on it, be it a sports team or a political statement or whatever.
At any rate, I earned my one tattoo the hard way, with honorable service, and that carries a somewhat different connotation than the "art" with which others festoon their bodies, and which is no one else's business.

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