Where is the source of your claim that the Twin Towers used 40% less steel than other skyscrapers?
Your theory of the collapse of the Twin towers always starts after 10 to 15 floors have allowed the collapse to reach crushing speed.
You have never explained how the 287 vertical steel columns could all collapse straight down at the same time. The fires were small and random and did not cover any floor entirely.
The fires did not burn long enough to weaken the steel to the point of collapse. The only forces which could have caused the towers to fall as they did are cutting charges and high explosives.
All the photos and videos show the existence of explosive debris clouds. Do you realize how ridiculous it is for you to argue against explosive demolition?

Nice monkey Stevo... maybe you could try & focus on one issue @ a time ... we were concentrating on the twin towers when you blessed us with your many opinions... I have spent a fair amount of time on the towers construction & played with the math enough to know there was no foul play involved with the failures & collapses... I provided you some real data from welding experts on the tower collapses.... review it & comment... for every one person who claimed hey heard explosives there are 100 who did not... the plane impact made a huge explosion from Kinetic energy... jet-A burns ... its flammable not combustible...the big boom did not come from the flame front it came from the impact... this is an example of a Kinetic energy explosion...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9nwIrvs3to

You'll have to offer some verification on your claim that you know "the vast majority of demolition experts not associated with them agree that that the takedown of those buildings certainly seem to be OBVIOUS planned demolitions." I've been looking for these guys. Haven't found any.

BTW: The jet liners that struck the Pentagon and crashed in Pennsylvania were both Boeing 757s.

If you have hundreds of questions "that have no answers", how the hell does this lead to the conclusion that 9/11 could be nothing other than an inside job? Maybe you should get those questions answered before you assume what the answers should be. Sounds like a really piss poor way to seek the truth. About anything.

Since we are on the subject of questions. I must first ask why, whenever I, or anyone else, asks a 9/11 truther a question you never provide an honest and direct answer. Instead, what we get is a long rant about watching truther videos or we are personally attacked for even asking. I have yet to ask any truther on this forum a direct question and receive a direct and honest response. I was always hoping but never expecting that one of you could provide an intelligent response in your own words rather than screaming about watching another truther video or getting slammed for even asking.

So, here's a question:

First of all we have the truther claim that explosive detonations are occurring at every floor at the collapse front--as the tower collapses, debris is being blown away from the building, flashes of light are supposedly seen, squibs are predetonating far below the collapse front, people hear explosions and so on.

This suggests that a WTC tower was rigged, bottom to top, with explosive charges on every floor--some say "high explosives", some say "powerful explosives", some include thermite charges in addition to the compound explosives. (Some even suggest there were mini-nukes in the basements, but we won't go there.)

I will ignore the question of how this massive demolition project was planned, the buildings prepared and rigged.

A controlled demolition matrix includes, wiring, electronic relays, switches, sequencers, radio receivers, det cord, detonators, shielding, explosive charges and charge attachment mechanisms.

A demolition matrix involving every floor in a 110 story building would be highly complex and very expensive. Even a smaller project like bringing down a 10 story hotel requires weeks of planning and prep before explosives are even brought on site and the demolition system, once in place, is fairly complex.

For a controlled demolition system to function as planned, the integrity of the entire matrix must be intact, circuit continuity, whether hard wired or radio controlled, cannot be broken, the firing sequence must be calculated to within a fraction of a second and programmed into the firing computers, hard wired or radio controlled. To ensure this integrity and circuit continuity in a matrix involving every floor in a 110 story building, would be a formidable project all on its own. The entire system must be checked and checked again.

Now we come to the question of the aircraft impacts and how these obviously random events were somehow figured in to the overall plan. There is no question that the jets were flown by live pilots (the radio controlled aircraft argument is too far fetched to even consider, even though this would make no difference to the effects the impacts would have on the demolition system.)

The aircraft impacts into the towers were extremely violent events, the penetrations and fuel explosions caused massive damage inside the towers. These impacts would have certainly destroyed or detonated some or all explosive charges directly in the path which would have immediately destroyed the integrity and continuity of the entire demolition system. So, how did your inside jobbers pull that off? How did they manage to coordinate the aircraft strikes so they wouldn't destroy the demolition matrix? And, why did the trigger men, wherever they were hiding, wait for an hour or more before pushing the buttons? Why not just pull the triggers right after the impacts?

The North tower was hit at 8:46am and collapsed 1 hour and 48 minutes later. The South Tower was hit at 9:03am and collapsed 56 minutes later. Even though the South Tower was hit 17 minutes later than the North Tower, it collapsed close to a half hour before the North Tower came down. Why did that happen? Could it be that there was twice as much weight above the impact area in the South Tower as that in the North Tower?

Finally, no detonation of an explosive device, other than a nuke, completely vaporizes all the bomb components. There are always parts and pieces of the device found in the area of the blast--wiring, circuit boards, pieces of detonators, even unexploded det cord in the case of multiple charges. Had the twin towers been rigged from top to bottom with an extensive explosive system detonating on every floor, there would have been literally thousands of bomb parts and pieces in the rubble. Why was nothing of this kind ever found anywhere in entire area of the WTC?

Fair questions, Steve.

I've been quite clear, But you seem to have a serious reading comprehension problems. Let's try again: The evidence that it was an inside job is overwhelming with hundreds, do you hear me, hundreds of questions that have no answers other than that 9/11 was an inside job. You have nothing, NOTHING that there is no other answer to, to prove your assertion that the government's version is accurate, true and correct. Are you too simpleminded to understand that fact or can you give me some examples to prove that I am wrong??? --- You are going on to other subjects and other areas. What I have just said here totally invalidates any possibility of you proving anything. ------- Again, I have proven over and over again in many ways that the government story just doesn't ring true, (in fact can't be) but all is answered by 9/11 being an inside job. where is your story or proof that the government narrative IS true, (you can even prove that it could be true, much less IS true)

Who said anything about the "government narrative"? Why don't you tell us exactly what that is. If you are talking about the 9/11 Commission Report or the NIST/FEMA and NCSTAR investigations, yeah, I've read them, but they are far from the limit of what I know about 9/11 and events leading up to that attack. I don't give a flying f*ck what you believe, if you want to suck on the conspiracy tit, that's up to you. It is a known fact that 9/11 truthers are the most intolerant, hard core, blocked headed jerks on the planet. It doesn't matter how extensive the information is we post, scientific and historical, all of which contradicts your idiotic theories, you are so trapped in your fictional drama that you have abandoned objectivity, logic, reason, and critical thought so all you have left is ridicule. You fools make a hell of lot of noise, beat a lot of loud drums, but none of it makes a lick of sense. Inside job, my ass.

If you think you have all the answers, then why do you continue to ask the questions? You truthers have been at this for 16 years and you are no closer to the truth than you were when you started this madness.

I've been quite clear, But you seem to have a serious reading comprehension problems. Let's try again: The evidence that it was an inside job is overwhelming with hundreds, do you hear me, hundreds of questions that have no answers other than that 9/11 was an inside job. You have nothing, NOTHING that there is no other answer to, to prove your assertion that the government's version is accurate, true and correct. Are you too simpleminded to understand that fact or can you give me some examples to prove that I am wrong??? --- You are going on to other subjects and other areas. What I have just said here totally invalidates any possibility of you proving anything. ------- Again, I have proven over and over again in many ways that the government story just doesn't ring true, (in fact can't be) but all is answered by 9/11 being an inside job. where is your story or proof that the government narrative IS true, (you can even prove that it could be true, much less IS true)

I've been quite clear, But you seem to have a serious reading comprehension problems. Let's try again: The evidence that it was an inside job is overwhelming with hundreds, do you hear me, hundreds of questions that have no answers other than that 9/11 was an inside job. You have nothing, NOTHING that there is no other answer to, to prove your assertion that the government's version is accurate, true and correct. Are you too simpleminded to understand that fact or can you give me some examples to prove that I am wrong??? --- You are going on to other subjects and other areas. What I have just said here totally invalidates any possibility of you proving anything. ------- Again, I have proven over and over again in many ways that the government story just doesn't ring true, (in fact can't be) but all is answered by 9/11 being an inside job. where is your story or proof that the government narrative IS true, (you can't even prove that it could be true, much less IS true)

No, you haven't been quite clear, you've been monotonously redundant, repeating the same message over and over. Suppose you explain how "hundreds and hundreds of questions" result in only one answer?

I am not making any assertions, I am offering alternative answers to all those questions that you are too damned dumb to even consider. And, I am asking you very important questions about your allegations and conclusions, but you can't provide an intelligent answer. Either you are too damned dense to articulate an answer, or you just don't have an answer. You are not trying to find the truth, you are only parroting the truther narrative. I don't think you realize how freaking stupid it is to assume you have the answers to questions before they are even asked. Truthers have been at this blast of questions, asking the same questions over and over and over, for 16 years. If you actually had all the answers, you wouldn't have to go on asking the questions.

The history of suicidal Islamic terrorism was born in Sudan, it resulted in the emergence of Al Qaeda. This terror organization had as its primary objective an attack on America. The history of Al Qaeda and its road to 9/11 is extremely well documented. This documentation comes from intelligence agencies in many countries, including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan, and Sudan. One Pulitzer Prize winning journalist researched the history of Al Qaeda from well before it ever came into existence right up to its attack on 9/11. He interviewed over 500 people, both Americans and Muslims in Islamic countries. He interviewed many Muslims who were either members of Al Qaeda or associated with members and even some family members, including members of the bin Laden family and Zawahiri's family. There is no doubt whatsoever who was responsible for the attacks on 9/11. The only part the US government played in it was a near total disregard for the warnings that counterterrorist intelligence agents provided.

On June 30, 2001, the CIA presidential briefing was headlined "Bin Laden Planning High Profile Attacks.". Neither President Bush nor SecState Rice took this warning seriously. The main failure on Bush's part is that he didn't know what he should do about it.

Near the end of July, 2001, CIA Director Tenet said that the threat level could not "get any worse", that, --
"the system was blinking red."

THE ROLE OF INTELLIGENCE ON THE 9/11 TERRORIST ATTACKS

The 9/11 terrorist attacks constitute a crucial moment in the history of the United States of America. The attacks signified a grave blow to the country’s self- image, as well as to its ability to defend and protect itself. Naturally, questions were raised on whether the attacks could have been prevented. Additionally, questions were raised on whether the attacks had been foreseen or not and the adequacy of the actions and measures undertaken to avoid such an outcome were scrutinized. In order for those questions to be answered the role of Intelligence available prior to the attacks must be examined. Specifically, in the case of the 9/11 attacks it is claimed that they occurred due to the failure of the intelligence agencies to recognize the threat of a terrorist attack. While mistakes were made, the agencies did not cooperate properly and the available information was not adequately exploited and used, the responsibility cannot be placed entirely on the Intelligence agencies. The fact is there was ample intelligence about the danger of a potential and imminent terrorist attack. Therefore, it will be proven that it was not primarily a failure from the part of the intelligence agencies to collect the necessary intelligence. It was rather a case of poor judgment on behalf of the government who did not assess properly the available intelligence.

In order to prove that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were not first and foremost caused by the failure of strategic intelligence collection and analysis, the international environment and the terrorist threats towards the USA since 1990 will be examined briefly under the prism of the intelligence available . Thus the background in which the intelligence was collected will be established. Next, various examples that the intelligence agencies mentioned and stressed the potential danger of a terrorist attack against American targets will be stated and documented. Finally, the malpractices of the various intelligence agencies as well as their lack of inter-cooperation will be examined in order to highlight some of the mistakes committed during the intelligence gathering by the various agencies. By following this process it will be clarified and documented that the intelligence agencies did provide adequate warning about the attacks and that therefore the blame does not lie primarily with them.

Terrorist threats and attacks against the US prior to 9/11

The second paragraph of the executive summary about the 9/11 terrorist attacks is “The 9/11 attacks were a shock but they should not have come as a surprise.” Since the beginning of the 1990s Al-Qaeda was gradually escalating its threats and attacks towards American targets abroad, as well as on US soil. However, Osama bin Laden became a prominent figure in the anti-American circles only in the late 1990s. Even prior to his more high-profile involvement later on, there are ample examples of Islamic terrorism against American targets.
In February 1993, a group of Islamist extremists attacked the World Trade Center in New York with a 1.200 lb bomb. The attack killed six people and injured more than a 1000. Two years later, in 1995 police in Manila uncovered a plot by Ramzi Yousef to blow up a dozen American airliners flying over the Pacific and numerous attacks took place against American citizens in Arabic countries. In August 1998 the US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Tanzania were attacked nearly simultaneously with truck bombs and al Qaeda took responsibility for the attacks. Prior to the latter attacks bin Laden was viewed simply as a “financier” of terrorist activities. In the aftermath it became clear that bin Laden had a far different and more involved role in al Qaeda. In December 1999, Jordanian police thwarted an attempt to bomb hotels and other sites frequented by Americans, in what is known as the Millennium crisis and a US Customs agent arrested Ahmeed Ressam at the US- Canadian borders as he was trying to smuggle explosives to attack Los Angeles International Airport. In October 2000 an al Qaeda team in Yemen blew a hole in the side of the US destroyer “Cole” with a motorboat filled with explosives. That was the background prior to the 9/11 attacks. It is clear that there was a culmination of terrorist activities against US interests and targets which led the intelligence agencies to be more vigilant for future terrorist threats. The aforementioned examples constituted clear warnings that the USA had firmly become a target of al-Qaeda and they also stressed the fact that the attacks against the US were escalating.

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If you ever bothered to read the links I provide instead of demeaning the author you would know the answers... there were not 287 columns remaining after impact... We all observed the south tower twist, lean & start it's decent long before your so called explosive debris started... only the smoke from fire pushed out as the motion begun... if explosives were used the explosives would have been observed first before any motion started... face facts putz the structure just failed & gravity took over... you really need to get a grasp on the available potential energy & the 2nd law of motion...

Who said anything about the "government narrative"? Why don't you tell us exactly what that is. If you are talking about the 9/11 Commission Report or the NIST/FEMA and NCSTAR investigations, yeah, I've read them, but they are far from the limit of what I know about 9/11 and events leading up to that attack. I don't give a flying f*ck what you believe, if you want to suck on the conspiracy tit, that's up to you. It is a known fact that 9/11 truthers are the most intolerant, hard core, blocked headed jerks on the planet. It doesn't matter how extensive the information is we post, scientific and historical, all of which contradicts your idiotic theories, you are so trapped in your fictional drama that you have abandoned objectivity, logic, reason, and critical thought so all you have left is ridicule. You fools make a hell of lot of noise, beat a lot of loud drums, but none of it makes a lick of sense. Inside job, my ass.

If you think you have all the answers, then why do you continue to ask the questions? You truthers have been at this for 16 years and you are no closer to the truth than you were when you started this madness.

You still haven't posted the source to back up your claim that the Twin Towers had 40% less steel than other skyscrapers.
Judging from the construction photos, they had more steel than average skyscrapers.

No, we all didn't notice the "South Tower twist, lean & start it's decent long before your so called explosive debris started."
The top section did not twist. Cutting charges or thermite cut the columns to cause the initial lean of the top section. The explosions started almost simultaneously with the lean of the top section.
If the explosives had not taken out all the resistance of the undamaged floors below, the top section would have toppled off and fallen to the side.