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Kathy Griffin cut off her head. ISIS was happy!
karpenter wrote:
Depends On Where It's Listed As Endangered
Might Be Endangered In One Area, May Be Over-Populated In Another
Elephant Hunts Are Legal In Different Countries In Africa
http://www.bulletsafaris.com/animals/hunt-elephant-with-bullet-safarisThe Local Tribe Gets The Guide Fees, Meat, Bone and Any
IVORYThat Tail Or Some Pictures Might Be All The Hunter Gets To Bring Home
Holding any.portion of an animal says nothing about who.killed it.
Of course the killing of an endangered species for only pleasure is disgusting, but when a government orders the thinning of a population in order to preserve the majority of the population, it is a mission to protect the population.
Whether Trump enjoyed the experience is irrelevant. The fact that he was issued the license by the very agency that protects these animals, speaks for itself.
Libs are only scrounging for anything they think that can discredit the president no matter how transparent they are doing it. They have attacked the president, his children, wife, son in law, and even gone after the 11 year old boy.
Their double standard virtually reeks. The right went after Obama for sure. His "wife", and on occasion his.kids, but not with the vitriol being used by the left. And if they had it would have been wrong.
Today we see libs wailing about how Obama was treated by the right, so apparently they feel it appropriate to be as heinous if not more so than what they accuse the tight of. It's terrible conduct of the right, but ok for the left. More double standard.
The difference is that the right vilified Obama for his.policies and words about our own citizens. The left is vilifying Trump for legal use of a hunting license and they don't even know if he pulled a trigger.
PaulPisces wrote:
I am not arguing the value and wisdom of thinning a herd, Doc. I just happen to think that was not Trump, Jr.s purpose in shooting an elephant.
But perhaps I should be thankful for his busy work on that trip. We now will not be overrun by leopards, kudu, crocodiles, riverbucks and (not depicted) civet cats.
Whew!
Paul, what you are doing is crabbing about someone legally issued a hunting license and that is all. You don't even know if Trump pulled a trigger and if he did you can only assume what was in his mind.
You chose to believe Trump enjoyed killing. Too much assumption guided by your political ideology, very little information. You are placing the dots precisely so you can connect them to agree with your feelings.
PaulPisces wrote:
They do know I am gay.
My guess is wrong! I stand corrected.
Docadhoc wrote:
Paul, what you are doing is crabbing about someone legally issued a hunting license and that is all. You don't even know if Trump pulled a trigger and if he did you can only assume what was in his mind.
You chose to believe Trump enjoyed killing. Too much assumption guided by your political ideology, very little information. You are placing the dots precisely so you can connect them to agree with your feelings.
Doc - I went back through my posts on this topic just to be sure, and I believe I was pretty clear.
The question was never one of legality. It obviously is legal when all the criteria are met, to shoot a lot of things.
What I question is the morality of trophy hunting of endangered species.
And of course I cannot know for sure whether or not Trump enjoyed killing the elephant. But my experience tells me that people of his economic status pretty much never do anything they do not enjoy, especially in the realm of hunting, and especially so when it costs a lot of money.
PaulPisces wrote:
Doc - I went back through my posts on this topic just to be sure, and I believe I was pretty clear.
The question was never one of legality. It obviously is legal when all the criteria are met, to shoot a lot of things.
What I question is the morality of trophy hunting of endangered species.
And of course I cannot know for sure whether or not Trump enjoyed killing the elephant. But my experience tells me that people of his economic status pretty much never do anything they do not enjoy, especially in the realm of hunting, and especially so when it costs a lot of money.
Doc - I went back through my posts on this topic... (
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My position is that since the licenses were granted to thin a population, whether or not one agrees with the philosophy, it cannot be considered trophy hunting by any measure.
We have no knowledge of local law there. We don't know if the meat fed Hungary people or not. We have no idea if any portion of any animal was retained by the hunter. A photo of someone.holding a tail says nothing except at that moment in time the person held a tail. There is no way to fill in the blanks and useless to try. You can guess and that is all you can do.
My objection is as soon as the name Trump came up you were willing to assume. We see too much of that from all sides. No one wants to wait until all the information is available when it is so much easier to assume the back story and make sure it fits the desired profile.
Before I pass judgement I want to see the entire picture.
"What I question is the morality of trophy hunting of endangered species."
Us farm kids never had difficulty understanding the need to cull the herd, and the need to keep populations of beasts down.
A good friend has her PhD in anthropology from Cornell and has gotten into intense discussions around the globe about the harvesting of whales.
The 'doo-doo gooders' won that and as a consequence, we have overpopulation of some species of whales and waves of deaths of the disease-ridden things. Rotting carcasses which could have been nourishing meals for traditional whale-consuming families.
Docadhoc wrote:
Pertaining to just the bats it would be called "mammalade".
Chicken Mull I understand is a South Carolina tradition. If you have Mull and Mamalade you might have something.
son of witless wrote:
Chicken Mull I understand is a South Carolina tradition. If you have Mull and Mamalade you might have something.
That and a big cup of truth serum and we might get someplace...lol.
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