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Jun 4, 2017 09:51:09   #
Bevos
 
ACP45 wrote:
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Now that Comey is out of the FBI, and Reno, Holder, and Lynch are out of justice, maybe, just maybe we can get back some sense of decency and justice, unless of course the FBI already has the goods on Trump and is already using that to influence his decisions: https://youtu.be/aQ0z9zuCbV8



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Jun 4, 2017 15:39:01   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
ACP45 wrote:
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Now that Comey is out of the FBI, and Reno, Holder, and Lynch are out of justice, maybe, just maybe we can get back some sense of decency and justice, unless of course the FBI already has the goods on Trump and is already using that to influence his decisions: https://youtu.be/aQ0z9zuCbV8


I strongly doubt there are any. "goods" to get on Trump.

He is a shrewd businessman. Possibly ruthless. But although that may be an undesirable trait to many, it is not illegal. He made money being better at it than the guy on the other side of the table

Same deal as the clamor over his tax returns. If Obama's IRS hasn't found any
Illegalities in all these years, there aren't any.

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Jun 4, 2017 17:03:52   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
pafret wrote:
The "Angry Patriot" is engaging in pablum for the right. Their wishful thinking, pronunciamentos, are belied by the historical facts.

"According to the Wall Street Journal, Congress is now putting a full investigation forward to find out who all was involved with the “unmasking” of President Trump and his associates during the transition. Congress is taking this case SERIOUSLY. Obama and his cronies, like Susan Rice, better run for cover. Three subpoenas have been issued so far, and we are expecting to see more."

Committee after committee have subpoenaed malefactor, after criminal, after knave, to testify, all to no avail. Just as the FBI travailed valiantly to investigate Clinton's breach of security, via her commercial server, only to announce "she did it but no one would prosecute so too bad". There have been so many such fruitless investigations that I believe we need a vigilante squad to execute punishment in secret; it is the only way we will achieve redress. This has been repeated over and over again with proven liars going unpunished and investigative results being watered down or discarded. Worse yet, another money wasting committee is often formed to investigate the findings of the first useless committee.

These committees run to one of two forms, suppress all pertinent evidence and rush to a predetermined political conclusion or draw out the proceedings over the course of years before declaring nothing was found and abandoning the quest. It is all a charade, played out for the befuddlement of the masses, deluding them into thinking there is justice and rule of law that applies equally to all.

We must enact term limits and change these Congressional Poltroons more often than our socks. It is the only way to prevent collusion between the guardians and the malefactors.
The "Angry Patriot" is engaging in pabl... (show quote)







It's an entirely different world inside the WH {and America} now, pafret, and our God, with the help of our Founders, didn't leave a single stone un-turned. "WE" just completed an 8 year, necessary, "experimental," controlled, 21st century "crash-test," and "WE" came out, as no other country can, much stronger than ever. Sure there are a few loose ends in America [and the world} to tie-up, but just the right person, possibly the only person on the planet who could, President "45" Donald J. {born again} Trump (R), is on a nearly sleepless, totally dedicated, unstoppable mission to "MAKE AMERICA SAFE, PROSPEROUS AND GREAT AGAIN!!!" Always, just like the weather. And "WE" have God, Jose, Maria, Leroy, Shania, John, Mary, Wong and Eureka to thank. "WE" couldn't have done it without all those who "couldn't tell {my/their} friends, wives, husbands, business associates, neighbors," etc., although it seems many of those who they "couldn't tell, couldn't tell, themselves." "WE," must not ever forget that the "majority" of the vote that "lefty" always talks about, have now (R)ealized that America is no-longer free for-the-taking. There's a new Sheriff in town {and a new Congress in charge}, and the past administration compared to the current administration is like the (D)ifference between night and day; (R)espectively. Not only are the border-jumpers about 70% declined, but President Trump's Cabinet and the (R)ecently salvaged ICE, Border Guards, HLS, FBI, CIA, NSA, police and military, etc., now only have to watch their backs from the known enemy; not the "shadowy" one "within." Hummmmmmmm. What IS that "crushing" noise I keep hearing???

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Jun 5, 2017 09:31:42   #
Bevos
 
Docadhoc wrote:
I strongly doubt there are any. "goods" to get on Trump.

He is a shrewd businessman. Possibly ruthless. But although that may be an undesirable trait to many, it is not illegal. He made money being better at it than the guy on the other side of the table

Same deal as the clamor over his tax returns. If Obama's IRS hasn't found any
Illegalities in all these years, there aren't any.



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Jun 5, 2017 19:39:17   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
pafret wrote:
The "Angry Patriot" is engaging in pablum for the right. Their wishful thinking, pronunciamentos, are belied by the historical facts.

"According to the Wall Street Journal, Congress is now putting a full investigation forward to find out who all was involved with the “unmasking” of President Trump and his associates during the transition. Congress is taking this case SERIOUSLY. Obama and his cronies, like Susan Rice, better run for cover. Three subpoenas have been issued so far, and we are expecting to see more."

Committee after committee have subpoenaed malefactor, after criminal, after knave, to testify, all to no avail. Just as the FBI travailed valiantly to investigate Clinton's breach of security, via her commercial server, only to announce "she did it but no one would prosecute so too bad". There have been so many such fruitless investigations that I believe we need a vigilante squad to execute punishment in secret; it is the only way we will achieve redress. This has been repeated over and over again with proven liars going unpunished and investigative results being watered down or discarded. Worse yet, another money wasting committee is often formed to investigate the findings of the first useless committee.

These committees run to one of two forms, suppress all pertinent evidence and rush to a predetermined political conclusion or draw out the proceedings over the course of years before declaring nothing was found and abandoning the quest. It is all a charade, played out for the befuddlement of the masses, deluding them into thinking there is justice and rule of law that applies equally to all.

We must enact term limits and change these Congressional Poltroons more often than our socks. It is the only way to prevent collusion between the guardians and the malefactors.
The "Angry Patriot" is engaging in pabl... (show quote)


The "Angry Patriot" is engaging in pablum for the right. Their wishful thinking, pronunciamentos, are belied by the historical facts."

Yes, they are!
"

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Jun 5, 2017 22:29:46   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
vettelover wrote:
The "Angry Patriot" is engaging in pablum for the right. Their wishful thinking, pronunciamentos, are belied by the historical facts."

Yes, they are!
"


It seems to me that a subpoena is a legal order to appear and if refused brings immediate action including arrest. How does anyone get away with refusing to appear when ordered to do so?

In the same vein, how did the DNC get away with refusing to turn over their "Russian hacked" servers to the FBI as ordered?

One does not refuse or stone wall a subponea. One either complies with the order or is in contempt. Contempt is actionable. There is no grey area.

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Jun 6, 2017 08:12:03   #
Bevos
 
robmull wrote:
"March," was NOT the perfect time, APC45, because the entire administration was still Marx/Alinsky (D). And, as you SHOULD know, liberal progressives only go after "the enemy" {BHO}, patriotic, constitutionalist conservatives. "Lefty," is about to get a big lesson in (R)eality, now that "WE" again have a patriotic American in the drivers-seat, so-to-speak. The more "lefty" goes ballistic and melts-(D)own, the more I know "WE," as constitutionalist Americans, are on the right track. The withdrawal from "The Paris Climate Treaty," {as it's known in other countries}, and the opposition by "lefty," reminds me of the expected reaction to a wealthy dupe pulling-out of a rigged card game. Certainly the enterprising players would be furious, as is quite the case. I believe "dark," was the overall "lefty" sentiment, and it's going to get a lot "darker," as President Trump (R), continues to (R)eplace the "stacked-(D)ecks," with fresh ones. (D)amn, that makes "lefty" mad, because a level playing field is all (D)own-hill for "lefty," and smoke and mirrors is NOT President Trump's (R), conservative game!!! Hummmmmmmm. What IS that "crushing" noise??? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRESIDENT "45" DONALD J. {BORN AGAIN} TRUMP (R); JUST LIKE THE WEATHER!!! After the 8 year controlled "crash-test," I'm proud to be American, again!!! Now; "(D)RAIN THAT {RADICAL LOONY LIBERAL JACKASS SECULAR PROGRESSIVE "LEFTY"} SWAMP!!!" President "45" Trump (R), is keeping his promise to; "MAKE AMERICA SAFE, PROSPEROUS AND GREAT AGAIN;" and "LEFTY" CAN'T STAND IT!!!
"March," was NOT the perfect time, APC45... (show quote)


Exactly RIGHT!! AND I am PROUD to BE AN AMERICAN AGAIN TOO!!! It has BEEN AWHILE since I have felt this way, but I AM BACK and STRONGER THAN EVER, JUST LIKE OUR COUNTRY!!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTRUMP!! DRAIN THAT SWAMP!!!

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Jun 6, 2017 11:37:37   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Docadhoc wrote:
It seems to me that a subpoena is a legal order to appear and if refused brings immediate action including arrest. How does anyone get away with refusing to appear when ordered to do so?

In the same vein, how did the DNC get away with refusing to turn over their "Russian hacked" servers to the FBI as ordered?

One does not refuse or stone wall a subponea. One either complies with the order or is in contempt. Contempt is actionable. There is no grey area.


"It seems to me that a subpoena is a legal order to appear and if refused brings immediate action including arrest. How does anyone get away with refusing to appear when ordered to do so?"

Laws and Taxes are for the peasants! IF they were to show up, all they would do is take the 5th like they all do, INCLUDING LORETTA 'THE LIAR" LYNCH!

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Jun 6, 2017 12:37:44   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Docadhoc wrote:
It seems to me that a subpoena is a legal order to appear and if refused brings immediate action including arrest. How does anyone get away with refusing to appear when ordered to do so?

In the same vein, how did the DNC get away with refusing to turn over their "Russian hacked" servers to the FBI as ordered?

One does not refuse or stone wall a subponea. One either complies with the order or is in contempt. Contempt is actionable. There is no grey area.


Apparently you didn't read my earlier post in this thread, here it is again:
"Committee after committee have subpoenaed malefactor, after criminal, after knave, to testify, all to no avail. Just as the FBI travailed valiantly to investigate Clinton's breach of security, via her commercial server, only to announce "she did it but no one would prosecute so too bad". There have been so many such fruitless investigations that I believe we need a vigilante squad to execute punishment in secret; it is the only way we will achieve redress. This has been repeated over and over again with proven liars going unpunished and investigative results being watered down or discarded. Worse yet, another money wasting committee is often formed to investigate the findings of the first useless committee.

These committees run to one of two forms, suppress all pertinent evidence and rush to a predetermined political conclusion or draw out the proceedings over the course of years before declaring nothing was found and abandoning the quest. It is all a charade, played out for the befuddlement of the masses, deluding them into thinking there is justice and rule of law that applies equally to all."

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Jun 6, 2017 20:43:36   #
moldyoldy
 
Trumps people unmasked in an attempt to see who was being investigated. They then told Nunes, so he could run to the white house and pretend that he was giving them info. They had told him what to say. It was a pitiful attempt to justify trump saying Obama wiretapped him. No, his people were all communicating with Russian spies.

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Jun 6, 2017 20:55:17   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trumps people unmasked in an attempt to see who was being investigated. They then told Nunes, so he could run to the white house and pretend that he was giving them info. They had told him what to say. It was a pitiful attempt to justify trump saying Obama wiretapped him. No, his people were all communicating with Russian spies.


Ok, so since you have definitive answers to all this, I suggest you bring your proof forward for all to see, other than that, it's a Russian conspiracy theory.

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Jun 6, 2017 21:24:46   #
moldyoldy
 
vettelover wrote:
Ok, so since you have definitive answers to all this, I suggest you bring your proof forward for all to see, other than that, it's a Russian conspiracy theory.


I wonder why?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-intelligence-official-told-associates-trump-asked-him-if-he-could-intervene-with-comey-on-fbi-russia-probe/ar-BBCc5lj?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

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Jun 6, 2017 21:47:59   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 


And dont know, you tell me! Comey is simply a mess and a corrupt jackass! This entire russian shit is the biggest distraction and deflection I have ever seen in politics.

You seem pretty smart, I am surprised you are buying into this giant reality shit show!

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Jun 6, 2017 22:13:05   #
moldyoldy
 
vettelover wrote:
And dont know, you tell me! Comey is simply a mess and a corrupt jackass! This entire russian shit is the biggest distraction and deflection I have ever seen in politics.

You seem pretty smart, I am surprised you are buying into this giant reality shit show!



Trumpy sure is worried. He might just have a breakdown this week.

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Jun 6, 2017 22:27:31   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Trumpy sure is worried. He might just have a breakdown this week.


I doubt it! Be careful drinking up too much Deep State Kool aid!

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