payne1000

There you go again . . . explaining how lightweight the top section of the towers were. Emarine will be horrified, since he has always contended that there was a massive overload in the top section which was so heavy it was able to crush 78 and 90 undamaged floors to dust.

I've explained to you before, probably more than once, that the columns bowing inward were the result of the center core being cut to pieces in that section by thermite. The collapse of the center core in that area caused the floors to fall inward. Since the trusses were connected to the outer wall structure, as the floors fell into the void where the center core had been, it pulled the outer walls in that area inward. If your video had continued a fraction of a second longer, you would see the explosives start to be detonated down the building and in the falling top section.

payne1000

Thick black smoke blocks light. Didn't you know that?
There is so much you don't know . . . or pretend not to know.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Here's the deal, eagle, Bashar al Assad is a Muslim. Inside every Muslim is a totalitarian brute waiting to get out, and when a totalitarian brute becomes the leader of an Islamic nation or predominantly Muslim nation, he is a dictator with all the trappings. Show me one dictator, Muslim or otherwise, who wouldn't even think about killing his own people to maintain his power. It is the nature of tyrants throughout history.

FYI: ISIS is not a bunch of foreign mercenaries. ISIS is a self-proclaimed state with its own constitution, its own bank, its own infrastructure, its own army, etc etc. ISIS just needs a country. They would like the whole world, but they won't get it.

Stop blaming America for all the evils in this world, it pisses off real Americans. Be more specific, it was and always will be liberal progressives who are responsible for the mess we are in. The godless fools are insane.

emarine

The WTC towers were lightweight period... they required 40% less steel than any tall structure that came before them... but that does not have anything to do with the live load capacity for each floor & the over load of the truss tabs... now were is some visible light from thermite putz... show us readers a photo or video of the intense light from thermite in action... oh I forgot you had 400 pages over two years & produced no proof thus far ... how slack of you... or just more troofer bullshit... face it putz... you just don't know when to quit... so the huge silent explosions start just after the proof you seek so desperately... you quote..."If your video had continued a fraction of a second longer, you would see the explosives start to be detonated down the building and in the falling top section"... got some news for you putz... the building is already falling & will continue to fall gaining force with speed ... you do understand as the speed doubles the destructive force quadruples now right... we are now at page 100 again for the 4th or 5th time & you're just as clueless as from the start... show readers the magical strength of vertical sheetrock putz... we're all waiting...

emarine

But the top section was already falling putz?... you said that your non existent super duper explosive Nano Nano thermite was placed in the core & silently exploded with huge force enough to blow out the massive a100 structural steel 14" box perimeter columns ... that's really quite amazing considering the 60' air space the blast wave had to travel to reach the exterior wall which is half glass & didn't blow out a window... you provide amazing information putz... truly amazing... now how about the massive anti compressive power of sheetrock lesson putz?

payne1000

Okay, Weewilly. You and emarine both claim sheetrock has no structural strength. I say sheetrock has structural strength . . . especially vertical structural strength.
This is the test I made. I constructed a wall with only sheetrock . . . no steel or wood studs . . . just a 4" wide wall of sheetrock taped together.
The sheetrock weighed about 15 lbs. The weight it's supporting in the test is 160 lbs. That means it's supporting over 10 times its weight.
I suspect it would hold up twice that much or more but two bags of concrete is all I had.
This test proves the much heavier sheetrock in the towers would have supported a helluvalotta weight. You shills are busted again.

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wall is all sheetrock . . . no studs or braces.


Holding up over 10 times its own weight and not a sign of weakness.

payne1000

The explosives were not used until after the thermite had cut the columns in the center core. The thick black smoke hid most of the flashes.
Check out my test on the vertical strength of sheetrock. The sheetrock walls alone would have prevented the floors from pancaking.

emarine

Very good putz... now go drop your Prius on it & tell us what happened... you are an idiot...putz

emarine

No the thick black smoke hid all of the flashes because there were no flashes filmed anywhere from any angle... even from helicopter filming through the big holes in the buildings... Try whacking the corner of your childish troofer experiment with a 10 pound sledge & teach yourself the power of mass in motion putz... you can then photo the results & repost...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The only lightweight top section in this entire fiasco is that thing on top of your shoulders that looks like a human head. It has eyes that do not see and ears that cannot hear and gray matter that does not think.

emarine knows, as do I and thousands of scientists and engineers, and millions of people, that the portions of the towers above the impact zones were not balsa wood frames supported by helium balloons.

We know also that the twin towers were not made of four drinking straws bearing floors made of cardboard sheets and weighed down with a brick.

We know from studying existing design data of the twin towers that the average weight of one floor was 4500 tons. Which translates to around 68,000 tons of building above the impact zone in the North Tower and around 135,000 tons of building above the impact zone in the South Tower. Another way to put it is that there was the weight of 320 diesel railroad engines above the impact zone in tower 1 and the weight of 640 RR engines above the impact zone in tower 2. Hardly what anyone could call "light weight."

To put this all in proper perspective, a twin tower support structure was designed and constructed to sustain the static vertical load of the building, it was not designed and constructed to withstand the dynamic crushing load produced in a progressive collapse. The entire building below the point of collapse initiation was doomed.

How did you come by the information that the center core was "cut to pieces in that section by thermite"? Can you prove that? You're just making up shit to fit your agenda. Still waiting for you or any other conspiracy nut to explain how those mysterious charges were installed in the towers and who did it. I realize it is impossible to explain something that never happened, but leave it to a truther to write a fiction story about it.

Also, it is pure nonsense to think that explosive detonations occurred AFTER the tower began to collapse. I have seen the videos of the South Tower collapse, many zoomed in on that very area where the collapse began and there is no evidence of explosions whatsoever. We see pressurized air filled with dust, smoke and debris venting out of the building and down the internal shafts, but no explosive detonations. If the tower was on its way down, for what reason would explosives be necessary? Moreover, in watching any video of a controlled implosion of a high rise building, we see distinct detonations occurring BEFORE any movement at all in the building is detected, sometimes there is no movement detected until most or all of the charges have detonated.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Damned fool wasted good sheetrock to prove nothing. It is mind boggling that an adult human being would actually believe that sheetrock walls could have resisted the crush of a hundred thousand tons of building. I don't know what payne is smoking, but it is some potent shit.

payne1000

I didn't expect you to admit you were lying about the vertical strength of sheetrock.
I expected you to do what you always do when proven wrong, make snarky remarks and ramp up the insults.
You never disappoint me in that respect.

payne1000

Skyscraper mass doesn't go into motion unless explosives are involved. Check out the history of skyscrapers. They've been around for more than a hundred years.
The only force which has ever brought one down is controlled demolition. When three fall on the same day all showing the main characteristics of controlled demolition, what would a thinking person determine to be the cause?

payne1000

You haven't explained why your version of the pancaking floors did not leave the center core still standing as would have happened in reality.
You still haven't produced the missing security videos of the alleged hijackers going through airport security on 9/11.
All you ever do is hurl insults from the safe haven of your cowardly anonymity.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Are you saying these buildings were held up by drywall?