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Jun 2, 2017 11:22:55   #
73STNGLKABEE
 
You did very well

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Jun 2, 2017 11:29:40   #
73STNGLKABEE
 
That's because he sucks the antigun cock

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Jun 2, 2017 11:31:28   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Please use Quote Reply so we know who you are talking to. Pull the trigger, problem solved.
73STNGLKABEE wrote:
That's because he sucks the antigun cock

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Jun 2, 2017 11:36:44   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
mine is a S&W 40. a 22 is probably the best all round caliber. and I agree. However when I post the word fuck they, admin, takes it down. usually. the same admin that post muslim women for sale.

JFlorio wrote:
Correct and to the point. I like it. My 357's been sitting on my night stand and hasn't shot me yet.

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Jun 2, 2017 11:45:50   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
They can buy the Muslims I'll buy ammo. I have a Glock 40. also. Beautiful gun.
ron vrooman wrote:
mine is a S&W 40. a 22 is probably the best all round caliber. and I agree. However when I post the word fuck they, admin, takes it down. usually. the same admin that post muslim women for sale.

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Jun 2, 2017 13:27:27   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
son of witless wrote:
You know more than me on the legalities of it. I do not get that if it was legal to secede then why was there a war? In that same vein, why couldn't South Carolina have legally done their nullification back in Jackson's time? Even with out those times there had to have been other incidents when individual states wanted to get out of the union.


I will try to be brief; I had a long-winded explanation that I somehow managed to delete and cannot retrieve.
There was a war because the Federal government, (which was quite biased toward the northern industrial states) got most of their operating money from tariffs on goods the slave states were forced to import because of their short-sighted lack of manufacturing capability. Virginia, at least, had an absolute right to secede.
Slavery is not economically desirable (except maybe on a very small scale) in an industrialized society, because it becomes less profitable. If the South had developed a manufacturing base that freed them from the need to import goods from either overseas or the northern states, there may have been an entirely different outcome.
Something that people overlook is the very real fear of Northern states that a successful Confederate bid for secession would result in a large British presence right next door to a seriously weakened US. The South was already a major trading partner with the Brits.
I should draw a distinction here....slavery was a cause of the war because it helped perpetuate the agrarian economy of the South. Ending slavery was not really on that many people's bucket list.

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Jun 2, 2017 21:31:26   #
son of witless
 
Loki wrote:
I will try to be brief; I had a long-winded explanation that I somehow managed to delete and cannot retrieve.
There was a war because the Federal government, (which was quite biased toward the northern industrial states) got most of their operating money from tariffs on goods the slave states were forced to import because of their short-sighted lack of manufacturing capability. Virginia, at least, had an absolute right to secede.
Slavery is not economically desirable (except maybe on a very small scale) in an industrialized society, because it becomes less profitable. If the South had developed a manufacturing base that freed them from the need to import goods from either overseas or the northern states, there may have been an entirely different outcome.
Something that people overlook is the very real fear of Northern states that a successful Confederate bid for secession would result in a large British presence right next door to a seriously weakened US. The South was already a major trading partner with the Brits.
I should draw a distinction here....slavery was a cause of the war because it helped perpetuate the agrarian economy of the South. Ending slavery was not really on that many people's bucket list.
I will try to be brief; I had a long-winded explan... (show quote)


The invention that caused all of the trouble was the cotton gin. Slavery may have died out if a cheap way to remove seeds from cotton had not been invented. Again I look at this from a legal perspective. I am in favor of the Union being preserved and I believe morally Lincoln was right. However, I believe that legally he may not have had the legal authority to use force to keep the Union together. The South was not the first part of the country to want to leave. In the early 1800s some states in New England wanted to leave over the Assumption Act. Then New England again wanted to leave during the War of 1812. They even had a convention in Hartford in 1814 to secede.

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Jun 2, 2017 21:41:57   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
How about we declare war on California if they don't leave?
son of witless wrote:
The invention that caused all of the trouble was the cotton gin. Slavery may have died out if a cheap way to remove seeds from cotton had not been invented. Again I look at this from a legal perspective. I am in favor of the Union being preserved and I believe morally Lincoln was right. However, I believe that legally he may not have had the legal authority to use force to keep the Union together. The South was not the first part of the country to want to leave. In the early 1800s some states in New England wanted to leave over the Assumption Act. Then New England again wanted to leave during the War of 1812. They even had a convention in Hartford in 1814 to secede.
The invention that caused all of the trouble was t... (show quote)

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Jun 3, 2017 05:16:35   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
JFlorio wrote:
How about we declare war on California if they don't leave?


We can have a sort of amnesty, in which normal Californians, (all three or four of them,) can have their own state.

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Jun 3, 2017 05:19:50   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
ron vrooman wrote:
mine is a S&W 40. a 22 is probably the best all round caliber. and I agree. However when I post the word fuck they, admin, takes it down. usually. the same admin that post muslim women for sale.


I prefer the Glock 21, and I have a model 22. Either one of them is absolutely reliable, but the 21 is more accurate. Maybe it's just me, but my old Gen 3 model 21 is the only gun I own that is not for sale or trade. I have put literally thousands of rounds through both of them and my next mechanical problem will be the first one.

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Jun 3, 2017 09:11:48   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
I had to look it up. .45 is too big to carry ammo. Just my thinking. If one wants to reach out and touch with authority one needs a .4 or bigger. just to much to carry. I have my .40 and a 20 gauge that's all. I don't plan on carrying them very far. I was raised around guns. I'm from a different era. I should have been a Marine, but I wasn't issued an industrial grade body. So I went Navy. Sailors also qualified with weapons and I did. I haven't put a thousand rounds thru all weapons in the last 50 years.

Loki wrote:
I prefer the Glock 21, and I have a model 22. Either one of them is absolutely reliable, but the 21 is more accurate. Maybe it's just me, but my old Gen 3 model 21 is the only gun I own that is not for sale or trade. I have put literally thousands of rounds through both of them and my next mechanical problem will be the first one.

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Jun 3, 2017 12:57:53   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I had to look it up. .45 is too big to carry ammo. Just my thinking. If one wants to reach out and touch with authority one needs a .4 or bigger. just to much to carry. I have my .40 and a 20 gauge that's all. I don't plan on carrying them very far. I was raised around guns. I'm from a different era. I should have been a Marine, but I wasn't issued an industrial grade body. So I went Navy. Sailors also qualified with weapons and I did. I haven't put a thousand rounds thru all weapons in the last 50 years.
I had to look it up. .45 is too big to carry ammo.... (show quote)


Doesn't matter if you put one or one thousand thru. Just like riding a bike, after a couple practice rounds, it's back to the Bulls-Eye!!!

I purchased a Kel-Tec .40. It's built around a GLOCK 21.




SEMPER FI



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Jun 3, 2017 13:27:54   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
And from the shores of Tripoli. I always like our grunt division of the Navy. Hit the beach and guard our gates and gangplanks. :)
I agree.
It is ready, aim, fire or ready, fire, aim; depending on the weapon.


mongo wrote:
Doesn't matter if you put one or one thousand thru. Just like riding a bike, after a couple practice rounds, it's back to the Bulls-Eye!!!

I purchased a Kel-Tec .40. It's built around a GLOCK 21.




SEMPER FI

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Jun 3, 2017 23:10:21   #
son of witless
 
JFlorio wrote:
How about we declare war on California if they don't leave?


Okay, but first lets evacuate the Americans from that foreign country. I hear there are many Americans being held prisoner. When they are able to leave, California will collapse because no one left will pay the taxes.

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Jun 3, 2017 23:11:44   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
wait for Jefferson to emerge.

son of witless wrote:
Okay, but first lets evacuate the Americans from that foreign country. I hear there are many Americans being held prisoner. When they are able to leave, California will collapse because no one left will pay the taxes.

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