PeterS

Jefferson did finally come around to support Adams and whether he could grasp the size of our government today or not the point is that our small government roots are a complete myth...and ironically held by those who believe in Capitalism which, according to Adams, depended on a strong central government.

EconomistDon

You are too hung up on labels -- liberals can't be this, conservatives can't be that......... How about if we call them raisins and kumquats; then maybe we can get past your mental blocks. I don't care what political parties were fascists in other countries. But it is easy to see who the fascists are in this country. I've given examples for proof; I will not repeat myself. I just ask you to shed your mental block and look at what is going on more honestly.

PeterS

The examples you gave weren't examples of fascism.

mil·i·ta·rism
ˈmilədəˌrizəm/Submit
nounderogatory
the belief or desire of a government or people that a country should maintain a strong military capability and be prepared to use it aggressively to defend or promote national interests.

Militarism isn't the use of ones military but the fervent desire to keep and maintain the biggest and baddest military in the neighborhood.

When have democrats ever been militaristic?

na·tion·al·ism
ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm/Submit
noun
patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.
synonyms: patriotism, patriotic sentiment, flag-waving, xenophobia, chauvinism, jingoism
"their extreme nationalism was frightening"
an extreme form of this, especially marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries.

When have democrats ever been nationalistic?

And who are the ones who created their own media when because mainstream media wouldn't cater to their ideology?

You are running around with blinders on Don. If you would do a little more to understand labels then you would understand why Fascism and conservatism go together just like peas and carrots...or some such...

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"And once again--Fascism is authoritarian and Communism is Totalitarian. Authoritarianism places power in one man whereas Totalitarianism places power in the state."- PeterS

Peter, start studying the Bilderberg Group. Under pure socialism/communism, the state owns all. The Bilderbergers intend to own the State. Have you noticed who the trillionaires are? Time for you and others to figure out how they became trillionaires!

Once again Petey; it is time you discover that Fascism and Communism are tools used by the powers that be (PTB). Both are totalitarian forms to rule the masses. The Bilderberg Group uses all means to get it all. Dictatorships and monarchies that do their biding also. when they don't do their bidding, they take them out one way or another. Soooo many examples!!!!
Like I said, time to do some studying.

Fascism/Communism - both Totalitatian
Restore Our Constitution! Restore Our Liberties!
Expose International Banker’s NWO Bilderberg Agenda
Google: “CFR,Trilat,Bilderberg”
To preserve our liberties and our Constitution; the enemies within our republic must be exposed. If you do not know your enemy - How can you effectively fight the enemy?
The International Banker’s Globalist/NWO agenda is the greatest threat to our future liberty and prosperity. Both parties are selling America out to the Banker’s War Mongering NWO agenda

Our Republic and our Constitution is at stake!


Zbigniew Brzezinski formed Trilateral Commission for David Rockefeller in the 1970’s, and Jimmy Carter was made a founding member. Jimmy Carter later became President, & ZB was made Carter's chief security adviser. ZB took off where CFR/Trilat/Bilderberger/ Republican Kissinger left off. ZB also stated Communism is superior to Capitalism, and Capitalism would fall.

"The New World Order (NWO) will be built...an end run on national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault" -, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Quoted from CFR/Trilat/Bilderberger, Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book "Between Two Ages". (1970)
For their agenda - Google: “Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages” > Then open
Trilateral Commission entry.
Zbigniew Brzezinski -- A quote from his book 'Between Two Ages' (1970) -- "Actions at the multinational level will be required; if the process of international relocation of industries is to be achieved in an organized fashion." That is why we have NAFTA, GATT, WTO, (NAU?) etc. They are pushing the NAU behind our backs right now. Not a peep from Congress or our CFR controlled Main Stream Media; except Lou Dobbs on CNN.

Top Illuminati Grand Wizard: “We Control Islam and We'll Use It to Destroy the West.” (WW3)
https://youtu.be/0dXD2H0m74g

Expose The Bilderbergers and their NWO agenda

EconomistDon

Stop being a dimbob, Petey. Your idea of causal relationships is ridiculous. White and snow go together, but that doesn't mean that everything that is white is snow. Should I claim that since socialism and communism go together with liberalism, then all liberals are communists? Of course I wouldn't say that. But that is the stupid kind of relationship you are claiming. Should we believe Hillary Clinton that all blacks are "super predators"? Does black and super predator go together? NO!! You and Hillary make outlandish comments that simply aren't true. The fact that some conservatives in other countries became fascists does not imply that conservatives in this country are fascists. Your flimsy logic to justify your claim does not hold water.

However, evidence that I provided does hold water. Liberal fascists in California are silencing conservative speakers on college campuses, through the use of violent protests. And liberal fascists are trying to silence conservative talk show hosts on major TV networks. Can you not see that liberals control the MSM? Internet media sources are growing in popularity because they are the only source of the truth. Liberal fascists can't stand exposing the truth, it defeats their deceitful agenda. So they must silence conservative media by whatever means necessary, including violence. THAT is fascism. Check your list, it is there.

BTW, please explain that fascist fist that you display with your posts. You're a fascist, aren't you. You are trying to throw suspicion off of you by calling others fascists. Nice plan, but we can see through you, fascist Pete.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

You covered Petey well, EconomistDon

Something to chew on:
Top Illuminati Grand Wizard: “We Control Islam and We'll Use It to Destroy the West.” (WW3)
https://youtu.be/0dXD2H0m74g

PeterS

Gee Don, why so touchy? I'm not saying white and snow go together but frozen water in a crystalline form that falls from the sky and snow go together. People who are nationalist, militarist, etc are a people who also share the same traits as Fascists. Are you Fascist? Well that's a question you are going to have to answer for yourself. Now am I a Fascist? Isn't that the question you are asking? Well am I a Conservative who believes in nationalism, militarism, etc? If so then I could well be trying to deflect from my Fascism. The same for someone who says authoritarianism and totalitarianism are the same thing. They could well be trying to deflect or they are simply dumb as a rock and can't comprehend the difference.

As for silencing conservative media? WTF are you talking about. The left had nothing to do with Ailes and O'Reilly. They did it to themselves. And violence? Have we been blowing up TV stations? What are you talking about? And attacking the fake news that continually comes from conservative sources isn't trying to silence conservative media but trying to silence fake news. All of us should be trying to silence fake news no matter it's source. And no, trying to silence lies isn't Fascism but just the opposite--it's an attempt at trying to preserve the truth. If you can't handle that, and clearly you are having problems, then might I suggest that it's you who is a FASCIST and you are trying to deflect onto others because you are unwilling to accept the truth as to just what and who you have become? If so--Zeig Heil mine heir, Zeig Heil...

Ricktloml

The indisputable, historical fact is fascism grew out of a debate between Marxists and Bolshiviks over the lack of the proletarian uprising that never materialized world wide. Hitler was much more of a Nazi, (and socialist) than a fascist, but Mussollini never called himself a Nazi-he was the acknowledged founder of fascism and was the prototypical fascist. The historical FACT is ALL the original founders of fascism were Marxists, communists, socialists, or connected to radical left wing labor parties.
After World War II the left in America desperately wanted to cover-up their support for fascism before and during the war. And since they had control of the media, the entertainment industry, and academia they simply did what all leftists do, they told the big lie, (that fascism was right-wing) and repeated this big lie for decades until it was believed by those who have no interest in the truth.

EconomistDon

Wow, I stepped on your toes pretty hard, didn't I. You realize that I am right and you are spinning in circles to justify in your mind that I am wrong. But that is OK fascist Peter. We know the truth. And we don't need to convince you because you really don't matter. Your false bluster does not extend beyond OPP. We're done.

EconomistDon

Very interesting Ricktloml. Thank you for the research. The description fits well with the fascist liberal agenda that is threatening democracy in our country right now. Every day I read the news and shake my head in disbelief over the stupidity of Democrats trying to undermine the Trump Presidency. They honestly believe in the rule of Alinsky that says they must "do whatever it takes", including lying, cheating, and violence. I cannot believe that Democrats have sunken so low.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Another example of hiding behind their chosen labels;
NeoCON.
Neocons are NOT conservative. They are one world promoting globalists.
Has there been a war they do not like?
Read 1984; and give old Orwell a well done for being prophetic.