Smells like victory? You guys are phony pricks. Red states lead the nation in welfare and there are more whites on the public dole than any other race. An ad hominem attack, attacks the messenger to deflect from the truth. I didn't do that but simply called you what you are. Conservatives talk tough but any time I've had to lay anyone off they run after public assistance as fast as anyone else. And the question is--why not? Why let your family suffer when there are avenues to soften the blow and if anything, is a little payback for all the taxes you been paying up to this point?

Oh, and by the way, if you read the article provided by moldy you totally mischaracterized what was actually taking place--and my bet is you did so on purpose. The only thing free was the use of the cars. The cars them selves remained property of the government. You made it sound like the government was sitting there handing out cars as if they were popsicles. My question is why couldn't you start a thread that represented the truth? Why are you trying to slander people who's only crime was trying to take advantage of a program that bettered their quality of life, if for only a moment, and did nothing at all to diminish yours? Talk about being a phony prick that would pretty much be the definition right there--you are lying in an effort to diminish those who are less fortunate than you. If that's not being a prick just what would be?

Free cars. Seriously. If it was anywhere but California, I would never have believed it. Free. Freaking. Cars.

"The $1.3 million used to pay for what the Sacramento Bee calls a "mini fleet," came from the state's California Environmental Protection Agency, which in turn got the money by blackmailing local businesses with cap-and-trade fines."

And the State is paying for the electricity it runs on, maintenance, repairs and even insurance. This is, literally, free. As in not costing the entitled little government teat-sucker a freaking penny, because local businesses are being blackmailed by their own State government EPA. How sick is that?

Here's the rest of it, if you can hold your food down:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/16158/sacramento-gives-free-cars-public-housing-john-nolte?utm_source=dwemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=050817-news&utm_campaign=position7

Ad hominem:
Adverb. (Of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. In other words; deflection by name-calling. Therefore, by default, Victory! But still, let's take a look at your name-calling prowess, shall we?

"Phony":
Noun. A fraudulent person or thing

"Prick":
Noun. Vulgar slang, a penis.

A 'fraudulent penis'. Hmm... Dildo, perhaps? Not possible. Based solely on the fact that I am typing this, I can categorically deny the veracity of that statement. That should have been patently obvious to you even before you made that assertion, ergo, Victory! again. Two victories on one topic, and it's not even 5AM yet. I must be on a roll...

I tried that already. Go back and look at how this whole discussion got started. You immediately defaulted to the name-calling because you know what I'm saying is factual and you can't refute it. Then you attempted to redefine 'ad hominem' to suit your narrative. Then you figured you could go even lower and use derogatory slang as a backup. When I point out the error of that strategy, you then try to redefine the slang terms you used to try and justify the original ad hominem attacks.

Fact: The facts were being harmoniously argued until you showed up and poked your big, rude, unreasonable, ad hominem slinging, logic-free nose in. I squish you like a bug and now you want to "add harmony"?

Do us all a favor. Step away from the keyboard. Don't touch anything, just stand up and step away and nobody will notice your absence until you show up again and the harmony gets disrupted all over again.