Rivers

What the hell are you smoking? I suggest you check into rehab immediately.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Why do these article fail to address any soil sample studies confirming "a foreign substance," even residue of aluminum??"I read them and often enough find it unsubstantiated....

thinksense

What about my last post would make you think I was not serious? Did you actually read it? If you read it please explain what you are having trouble understanding. What would make you think this was a joke?

thinksense

I said it before and I'll say it again....

Finally I have learned in my 83 years, that when people start acting impolitely and become strident and insulting in their discussions with you that, that is a sign that at least subconsciously those people are extremely uncomfortable about what you are saying. In other words they know that their side of the discussion is wrong. You can see some of this right on this string.

Think about it.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Couple weeks ago, I watched an air force jet flying high and fast headed south toward Nellis AFB. I put binos on it and I think it was a tanker that had been servicing the fighters operating north of us. The sky was severe clear, the sun was high, the air at the jet's altitude was obviously very stable. The contrail was tight and brilliant as the jet proceeded south, dispersal was minimal, it drew an almost perfect straight line across the sky, the contrail remained bright and distinct, not a crook in it. Then at some point down south, the jet went into a wide, descending right turn. As the plane lost altitude, the contrail began to disappear until it was gone. However, it left a fish hook contrail that had to be at least 150 plus miles long. It was a beautiful thing that remained for quite some time. Funnily enough, no human beings or animals on the ground died.


Yeah, like aircraft CONDENSATION trails haven't been around for a while. How about those over Europe in 1944-45? As I recall, according to the history books, it was all those bombs the planes dropped that did all the damage.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I have seen that but never thought of it really, Mike.. Thank you explaining it.. I agree with you about clouds too..
I once read a study where scientist said they could redirect sunlight so the Earth would cool rather than warm too, using reflect glass theory so the sun rays bounced off it and up, rather than down..

It's my personal opinion we don't need to be messing with the natural process of what our Earth does,, period... It has managed just fine for 5.6billion years if you believe the Scientist..

This study I submit here is rather voluminous but filled with years of Scientific data on altering , cloud, atmosphere, drought conditions by changing weather patterns etc..

Skip all the preamble glossary and go right to the first page.. The history astounding..
You see the dates on research, data etc you immediately think, If they were trying to poison and or kill us off it would be known by now.. We're talking 80 years alone in study..And what a fact filled study it is.. Its a 150 page study that will fascinate you..

Button line what is the present conclusion??? We do not have the right technology to determine what or how we can modify ...

It speaks plenty about using planes in experimental settings too.. Guess what they said, once released there is no way to control its absorbing ability and interaction with wind.. Realllyyyyy??? No kidding..

https://www.nsf.gov/nsb/publications/1965/nsb1265.pdf

Rivers

I'm not uncomfortable at all. I just refuse to swallow the propaganda you post, and anyone with an ounce of grey matter between their ears knows that it is propaganda. It's nonsense!

What other conspiracies do you believe in? The earth is actually flat?

Think about it.

S. Maturin

Contrails.. I have flown as commercial pilot for many years and am familiar with the clouds of minute ice crystals formed due to condensation of water vapor from jet fuel burn at altitude and I simply cannot believe you believe that nonsense you stated about that phenomenon.

So, I thought that no intelligent adult would state what you did unless he/she were kidding around.. making a joke.

thinksense

I do not deny that planes have been leaving contrails since before the second world war. Most of which disipated within 20 minutes or less.

I do not deny that Blade Runner is always found on the side of the discussion that is taken by the NWO party line and their fellow travelers. In any event I always take this into consideration when reading it's posts. "However, it left a fish hook contrail that had to be at least 150 plus miles long. It was a beautiful thing that remained for quite some time. Funnily enough, no human beings or animals on the ground died."

What does "some time" mean in the above statement? Was that 20 minutes as cntrails may last, or 12 hours as chemtrails often last. And was that a contrail or a chemtrail that the plane shut off after making it's turn? And it is not funny at all that "no human beings or animals on the ground died" (although I don't know how it would know that for sure) since it takes a long time for the chemtrail to disipate and more time for the aluminum microflakes to make their way to the ground, and it takes a very long time for a certain accumulation in the victim for aluminum to do it's evil work. ...Enough about Blade Runner.

(Btw, I am given to understand that you too can become a shill and earn some extra cash.)

I do deny that chemtrails and contrails are the same thing.

Cancun discussed health issues possibly relating to chemtrails, especially aluminum. I've just run into an interesting discussion about some of the health effects of aluminum, which is admitedly being sprayed as part of the contrail chemical soup, and which has been found in puddles of ground water that shouldn't be showing this substance and were not showing this substance 15 years ago.

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-05-03-aluminum-dangers-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know.html

1. Natural News) A known neurotoxin – aluminum has been linked to autism in children and Alzheimer’s disease in older adults. In fact, according to Dr. Christine Schaffner, this dangerous substance is currently the number one toxin found among her patients suffering from metals exposure – ahead of mercury and lead. Keep in mind, there is absolutely no (good) reason to have this material inside the human body.
Dr. Schaffner reports that our detoxification abilities have not caught up yet to the challenges facing us – due to all these harmful chemicals we get exposed to every day. When you consider the true toxicity of aluminum – you quickly see why neurological problems are on the rise.

You have the right to believe what you want. And if it costs you an early sickness and death, so be it. But for those who do not have an axe to grind, you might get some benefit by looking into what is being done, while hidden (or obscured by insincere rhetoric) from you.

VicBos1x

I believe there is much crap under your very nose if that is the best you can do. Go back to sleep, you have absolutely nothing to contribute here. Stick your head between your legs and look up and you can see a chem trail up close.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You are definitely mentally challenged. A bunch of Harvard scientists are proposing some kind of radical solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

FYI: the fish hook contrail hung up there for more than an hour. Like I said, the atmosphere at the altitude the jet was flying was obviously very stable. It was in fact a brilliant cloudless day.

FYI; The NWO conspiracy is another load of horseshit.

FYI: liberal progressives who think AGW is real are brainwashed fools.

thinksense

I have already explained many of the reasons that I am suspect with regard to chemtrails. One more thing that strengthens my suspicions is the way that I am replied to/attacked/shouted down whenever I discuss the things about this that bother me. An example might be someone suggesting that because of what I state that I am "no intelligent adult". What really motivates you to make such an insulting statement.


I simply stated what I and many others find unnerving about these long lasting, interlocking white and occasionally dark gray trails I have seen over my area seldom before
1990 and almost daily since 1999.


Maybe you really are a veteran pilot, maybe not. I have to take your word for your knowledge, and try to fit that to the opinions you state. If the subject was reversed and we were talking about health care, I hope that I would take into consideration that you probably had little if any education in my field and would not suggest that you were not intelligent because you stated something that I felt was silly.

I also realize that even if you really are a veteran commercial pilot of many years that you probably know almost nothing about this subject. If it is being kept under wraps, unless you tripped over it you wouldn't know anything, and if you did and were under Non Disclosure Rules you would have to act exactly as you do on this string.

Knowing that our govt. workers act like they are hiding something when I contact them also makes me want to find out what is really going on.

Can you give me a scientific, honest reason to say that my concerns are unfounded, and my evidence is faulty.

Think about it.

thinksense

"You are definitely mentally challenged. A bunch of Harvard scientists are proposing some kind of radical solution to a problem that doesn't exist."

I couldn't agree with you more about the "Scientists", though I must dissagree with the first sentence. This kind of nonsense is what has been going on in more and more of the so-called sciences. They always seem to find a reason to apply for grants, even if silly. Look on the internet and you will find these chemtrail "researches" going on over and over, first to shield the world from freezing and now to shield the world from warming. OOPS, I meant "Climate Change. OY Ve


"FYI: the fish hook contrail hung up there for more than an hour. Like I said, the atmosphere at the altitude the jet was flying was obviously very stable. It was in fact a brilliant cloudless day."

Yes, I know you watched and timed it. Didn't see the guy who was following you, did ya?

"FYI; The NWO conspiracy is another load of horseshit."

Of course it is. Though I don't see the rellavance of that statement in this discussion.

""FYI: liberal progressives who think AGW is real are brainwashed fools."

Yes, they really are.


BTW...I don't see "superdave" on here. Is he allright?

badbobby Loc: texas

you should Linda
I got it from you
BTW
sorry bout the misspelling of condensation

badbobby Loc: texas

find a good friend
someone who will listen to you
then maybe he can tell you
how to get over your fears
good luck