S. Maturin

Of course.

I should think one would find as much true science on UCLA campuses as one might find reality in Hollywood.

BTW, your granddaughter probably is the kind - exactly the kind- of person we so badly need in the sciences today. I think she seems to actually think.... think like a classical scientist, not those 'consensus' seekers who live from government grant to government grant & corporate pay-out to corporate pay-out.

(It's the oldest profession in the world--- even when it it's government being the Jon. Your granddaughter would not abide by that sort of arrangement, I suspect.)

thinksense

Recently a march created by a group of scientists called “The March for Science” was held in Washington, D.C. and in other places in the country. Why do we need a March for Science? Apparently because science like just about everything else has become politicized and cannot stand on facts alone because many facts are established by the media or by consensus (fake news or the majority can be wrong, especially in matters of science). (from an E-mail sent to me by a fellow doctor.)

S. Maturin might well be among that 7.2% that can actually think. Wow, now I've found 2 on 0PP. Maybe we have a chance.

S. Maturin

Perhaps..

For reasons quite different, my daughter and granddaughter went to that 'March for Science'. (I learned of that after the fact. )

My daughter has her own professional medical business, granddaughter is a med student. Someday I'll try to debrief them on what the hell it was they went to DC to accomplish.I suspect it was just a mother & daughter lark.

VicBos1x

Yes Rivers your about as stupid as stupid gets.

thinksense

The fact that you seldom see them anymore is pretty good evidence that they are NOT contrails.

S. Maturin

Ah, chemtrails are sort of like patriotism in the party of destruction- The democrat party.

thinksense

I'm not sure what you mean.

But what I meant by pointing out that you do not see chemtrails any more, while you do see occasional contrails, would indicate that whatever the powers that be who were doing the chemtrailing , they have either completed their task, or for some other reason stopped the chemtrailing. That alone should answer the question of whether they were figments of "nut's" imagination or were real.

It is interesting to me that no one else seems to have noticed that they are not up there anymore. At least I have not seen any of the OPP people who were so incensed that I should write about them mention it.

thinksense

Just came across the followint as I was purging my past files.

For years the federal government and others have labeled those who warned about 1. chemicals being sprayed on populations – chemtrails – as conspiracy theorists, but the nation's space agency has just admitted that the "conspiracy" theorists were 100 percent correct.

As reported by The Waking Times, a NASA scientist has admitted that his agency is placing lithium in rocket exhaust (listen here), which is then dispersed through the atmosphere. What's more, lithium release has been taking place on and off since the 1970s, Rowland admits on the video, which is actually a taped recording of a phone call.

Though Rowland said that lithium does not hurt the environment, the compound itself was used as a psychiatric medication for decades. It works by altering levels of serotonin and norepinephrine that are secreted by the human endocrine system. Lithium strongly alters brain patterns, but in the recording Rowland claimed that "it is not dangerous."

The reality is that even physicians who regularly prescribe the drug for psychiatric reasons don't understand how it works, or what the proper dosing levels should be. So how can spraying large amounts of the compound into the atmosphere indiscriminately ever be a good thing?

All for science
NASA has the explanation. On the space agency's website, it claims that NASA pursues lithium releases in order to study wind movement in the upper atmosphere, with the purpose being to analyze data about charged – or ionized – gas (called plasma), as well as the neutral gas that it travels through.

The agency says that the variations matter, because all GPS and communications satellites send their signals through the ionosphere, and "a disturbed ionosphere translates to disturbed signals," so it is necessary to know what causes the ionosphere to act in certain ways.

Besides mind-altering lithium, others have tried aerosol vaccines – spraying populations with vaccines without their knowledge or permission – as this study abstract denotes. Several thousand people have been aerosol-vaccinated "for many years" in Russia with "live-attenuated strains against many diseases." Also, there have been exhaustive field trials in South America using live-attenuated measles vaccine, which were reported successful. Good results were also reported using an aerosol to vaccinate against influenza A.

"The aerosol mode of vaccine introduction, which best follows the natural route of many infections, may first lead to development of immunity at the portal of entry, and may also induce a more generalized defense," the researchers stated.

The study noted further that the optimal method of aerosol vaccine is through the nose, which is considered better for pediatric and geriatric populations.

"We conclude that aerosol immunization seems a promising method of vaccination," the study's authors conclude.

Guinea pigs
As for the lithium, it is not a drug that should be spread throughout the atmosphere, because, again, doctors and scientists really don't know what dose levels are effective and which are too much.

Rowland, in his taped conversation, promised to respond to specific questions if he was emailed. He also said that the space agency welcomed such inquiries from the general public because informing people is a core mission of NASA.

If that's true, then why are other government employees in key agencies under gag orders regarding discussions of chemtrails?

If you're still not ready to believe that the U.S. government is capable of distributing aerosol lithium thermite via chemtrail, this public document – Code 840 RMMO from the Wallops Range and Mission Management Office – should put your doubts to rest. It specifically states in a 2013 mission statement that the "purpose" of the launch is "to test the loading methods for lithium canisters" that were to be flown in subsequent missions. The results? "Thermistor data looked nominal. Good report from airborne optical platform of recorded video and lithium clouds also visible by ground observation."

The U.S. government has treated Americans as guinea pigs in the past; anyone who would think that it has discontinued the practice is just naive.

Sources:

Newstarget.com

NCBI.NLM.NIH.gov

YouTube.com

Science.NaturalNews.com

Steve700

All that is necessary for you to automatically deny something without looking into it is for you to hear someone call it a conspiracy. You don't know what you're talking about (as usual) They are chemical trails, not condensation trails, and they are all part of the plan for things to come in the globalist agenda, just like 9/11, and all the chaos in the Middle East that we have deliberately cause was part of the globalist agenda. But I'm not going to explain it to you because it would be like me talking to the wall. You remain childishly immature, naïve and gullible. (Not to mention lacking in any kind of integrity) And in your narcissistic arrogance sight a psychologist or psychiatrist giving his explanation of what he believes to be going on in the mind of a believer of conspiracy theories. You should know that psychiatrist's are as, and even more mentally fucked up if they are liberals, than everyone else, and that their suicide rates are the highest of any occupation. You should also know that the term conspiracy theory is the deliberate linking together of 2 words to automatically cast doubt on the veracity of the conclusions made by the Accumulation of FACTS, the examination of those FACTS and the conclusion thereby obtained. And then you start talking about how other people delude themselves. What a joke, when you are the biggest self-deluded are on the forum other than some of our nuttiest liberals.

And Regarding your denial of the 911 issue: Where is your self-awareness. How do you sleep at night, knowing what a dishonest scumbag you are???. You come up with all this technical shit thinking that is going to make people think you're smart. Who you think you're fooling??? Not a single bit of that crap you put out proves that the fall of those buildings weren't planned demolition. Your a self-deluded fraud, a degenerate and an idiot. What kind of a punk do you think you are that you can just ignore valid questions and then insult other people. Grow up, have some self-awareness and Be a MAN.
Your just a wast of everyone's time who is stupid enough to listen to you STOPS WITH THE BULL SHIT & SHOW THE PICTURES or AERIAL VIDEO FOOTAGE PROVING YOUR ASSERTIONS or ADMIT YOU JUST DON'T KNOW

S. Maturin

Where are our qualified chemists? I would like a question answered... Q: How is a molecule of lithium compound changed by mixing it with burned rocket fuel exhaust at thousands of degrees Fahrenheit?