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Apr 26, 2017 16:04:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Rivers wrote:
Like I said....when? And, how? If Obama did what you say, Trump wouldn't have had to do anything. I am sticking to topic, moron.




Rivers,

It seems the effort by Obama was easy to cercumvent.. Remains to be seen if trump will do any better.. doubtful...


More than 20 members of federal advisory committees canceled their registrations as lobbyists after the Obama administration banned K Street from the panels in 2009, according to a review by The Hill.

The Hill compared the membership rosters of 16 Industry Trade Advisory Committees (ITACs) with lobbying disclosure records and found at least 22 of the panels’ more than 300 members canceled their lobbyist registrations after the White House policy was announced.


Overall, roughly 58 of those serving on the ITACs were registered to lobby at some point.
Critics said the move by many to deregister shows the administration’s policy is flawed and encourages lobbyists to move into the shadows.

Howard Marlowe, president of the American League of Lobbyists, called the number of formerly registered lobbyists serving on committees “shocking, [but] not surprising.”

“These are people who I presume are experts in their field who have something to contribute and want to contribute, and the only way they can do that is by deregistering,” said Marlowe, also president of lobby firm Marlowe & Co. “I presume that they haven’t all gone into the priesthood.”

The number of formerly registered lobbyists serving on federal advisory panels is likely much larger. The Hill’s review focused on only 16 panels, but there are approximately 1,000 advisory committees in the federal government, according to the General Services Administration.

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Apr 26, 2017 16:22:10   #
Morgan
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And your stupidity is surpassed by no others!

That link provides more accurate info on the subject than you have provided, simpleton!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/23/trump-pence-allies-cash-lobbyists-swamp-president/100782332/


There's no reason to insult the person trying to open conversation, I've never said anything thing derogatory to you, you're only reaffirming what others are saying about you. Good luck

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Apr 26, 2017 16:35:00   #
Morgan
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Here's an example of the smoke and mirror show this really is: Rex Tillerson leaves office and can't lobby the State Department for 5 years - but Rex never lobbied himself anyway, he has a lobbying firm do it, so he'll never be in violation anyway. Obama tried to end the revolving door between Wall Street and the Treasury, and the banking regulatory agencies, which traded employees regularly - this removes the door entirely.


This bill makes it clear who's side Trump is really on. We'll never cut out corruption, that would entail cutting off the hands of the politicians being fed by the lobbyists and who pays them.

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Apr 26, 2017 16:46:55   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And your stupidity is surpassed by no others!

That link provides more accurate info on the subject than you have provided, simpleton!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/23/trump-pence-allies-cash-lobbyists-swamp-president/100782332/




I guess being a Dick to everyone is just in your nature........die alone!.............Punk!

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Apr 26, 2017 16:54:36   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, just the issue please.

This new bill from Trump:
This order bans executive branch appointees from lobbying their former agency for five years, lobbying any agency while President Trump is in office and ever lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. It works by requiring appointees to sign a pledge which the attorney general can enforce with civil, not criminal, action. The order seems to remove an Obama administration requirement that lobbyists cannot move into a government job and work on the same issue they’d pursued as lobbyists for two years.

Call me crazy but I think lobbying has simply become a corrupt money making scheme which derails our true governing system and only benefits the corporations who are paying the lobbyists and in the long run are not for our benefit.

There's a cycle here of paid politician's, after thy are not in the government as say a representative, they work as lobbyist, than they are able to get back into the government with another job. Obama tried to discontinue this self interest, but it has now been undone. So I ask who does this benefit, is this draining the swamp?
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, jus... (show quote)



IMO, lobbyists should be flat out banned from any interaction with Government, before, during......especially after any previous Gov employment. I think Trumps intentions are good, problem though.....lobbyists are such the norm within out system it will be like trying to eradicate fire ants using a garden hose .I see lobbyists as just a legal way to bribe out in the open..........Death to all lobbyists!!

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Apr 26, 2017 18:11:57   #
Morgan
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
IMO, lobbyists should be flat out banned from any interaction with Government, before, during......especially after any previous Gov employment. I think Trumps intentions are good, problem though.....lobbyists are such the norm within out system it will be like trying to eradicate fire ants using a garden hose .I see lobbyists as just a legal way to bribe out in the open..........Death to all lobbyists!!


I agree with death to all lobbyists! Gosh that makes two, this is scary, what's happening to me...or is it you, kidding Seriously though I thought this was something just about all of us agreed on, freak'n lobbyists, this is exactly... well part...of our congress not following the needs or wants of the people and going to big money once again. We're both right in our analogies, the representatives sure as hell aren't going to do it, where do the people get an executive order?

And what is with Raylan anyway, I don't know why he reacted the way he did, he's a pissed off guy maybe he needs a hug, geez, thanks BTW

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Apr 27, 2017 10:16:50   #
Morgan
 
Interesting only one other person beside myself seems to object, two people who acknowledge it, but seem to accept it.

Complacency, maybe this is the reason things don't change, we just keep on keeping on with the same status quo. Instead of fighting each other, these are the things we should be protesting and fight against and begin to cut out the corruption. We have to start somewhere and obviously it changes aren't through simply voting in a new politician. As we are witnessing, a politician doesn't have to be defined as one working for the government, they may not go in as a politician but they sure go out as one, I suppose that is the nature of that beast.

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Apr 27, 2017 10:17:58   #
Morgan
 
accidently repeated

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Apr 27, 2017 16:53:08   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
I agree with death to all lobbyists! Gosh that makes two, this is scary, what's happening to me...or is it you, kidding Seriously though I thought this was something just about all of us agreed on, freak'n lobbyists, this is exactly... well part...of our congress not following the needs or wants of the people and going to big money once again. We're both right in our analogies, the representatives sure as hell aren't going to do it, where do the people get an executive order?

And what is with Raylan anyway, I don't know why he reacted the way he did, he's a pissed off guy maybe he needs a hug, geez, thanks BTW
I agree with death to all lobbyists! Gosh that mak... (show quote)




Yep, that's two....maybe the trifecta is just around the corner

Lobbyists have ruined what was once( an almost fair game of politics) they have now swolled into a fat blood tick of greed........be gone with them!

As for Raylan.....he's just an angry Punk that needs his ass whipped, with many here willing to do it no questions asked....justifiably so

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Apr 27, 2017 16:59:59   #
Big Bass
 
Rivers wrote:
You are the poster boy/girl for stupidity!


He thinks he's/she's witty. But then he/she always gets his/her w's and sh's mixed up.

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Apr 27, 2017 17:08:52   #
Big Bass
 
Morgan wrote:
There's no reason to insult the person trying to open conversation, I've never said anything thing derogatory to you, you're only reaffirming what others are saying about you. Good luck


That always happens when you disagree with a loony-libturd. They are ALWAYS right, especially when proved wrong. My take on your topic is that Trump is trying to clean up a disastrous mess, which has never been attempted before. Lobbying is a politically correct way of saying trying to buy from influence-peddling politicians. Corruption at its finest.

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Apr 28, 2017 10:20:47   #
Morgan
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Yep, that's two....maybe the trifecta is just around the corner

Lobbyists have ruined what was once( an almost fair game of politics) they have now swolled into a fat blood tick of greed........be gone with them!

As for Raylan.....he's just an angry Punk that needs his ass whipped, with many here willing to do it no questions asked....justifiably so
Yep, that's two....maybe the trifecta is just arou... (show quote)





Really not wanting to get off our short roll, but... that was the point of the post, Obama had tried to curb the manipulations of Lobbyists by

creating a bill into law that, it was the requirement that lobbyists cannot move into a government job and work on the same issue they’d pursued as lobbyists for two years.

That seems like a good thing to me and going in the right direction...no? Forget the fact it was brought up by Obama. Now Trump is removing this? We know who that will benefit?

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Apr 28, 2017 10:26:25   #
Morgan
 
Big Bass wrote:
That always happens when you disagree with a loony-libturd. They are ALWAYS right, especially when proved wrong. My take on your topic is that Trump is trying to clean up a disastrous mess, which has never been attempted before. Lobbying is a politically correct way of saying trying to buy from influence-peddling politicians. Corruption at its finest.


I'd agree as far as disagreeing with any loon who can't accept someone simply due to disagreeing with them. It's on both sides and not very productive. If we could at least agree on one thing together, I think lobbying is a good start, maybe we can get our so called representative's to fight for the voice of the people who put them there and we can actually get something done that would be an improvement in our government and governing.

I'm not disagreeing with you, merely questioning Trumps intentions here...

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Apr 28, 2017 10:33:19   #
Big Bass
 
Morgan wrote:
I'd agree as far as disagreeing with any loon who can't accept someone simply due to disagreeing with them. It's on both sides and not very productive. If we could at least agree on one thing together, I think lobbying is a good start, maybe we can get our so called representative's to fight for the voice of the people who put them there and we can actually get something done that would be an improvement in our government and governing.


A drained, clean and tidy swamp will save the taxpayer $Trillions. To get our representatives to fight for We, The People, will take a lot of doing, and much heavy legislation. Too many of those representatives have their grubby little hands deep in the cookie jar. Many don't even give a rat's patoot about whom they represent.

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Apr 28, 2017 10:37:37   #
Big Bass
 
Morgan wrote:
I'd agree as far as disagreeing with any loon who can't accept someone simply due to disagreeing with them. It's on both sides and not very productive. If we could at least agree on one thing together, I think lobbying is a good start, maybe we can get our so called representative's to fight for the voice of the people who put them there and we can actually get something done that would be an improvement in our government and governing.


I'm all for good, healthy discussion. I have my opinions about life, and I learn other points of view through these HEALTHY discussions. I despise any who turn to personal insults, simply because they hold opposing views. Too many good topics have been turned rancid by those miscreants.

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