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Apr 26, 2017 11:06:17   #
Morgan
 
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, just the issue please.

This new bill from Trump:
This order bans executive branch appointees from lobbying their former agency for five years, lobbying any agency while President Trump is in office and ever lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. It works by requiring appointees to sign a pledge which the attorney general can enforce with civil, not criminal, action. The order seems to remove an Obama administration requirement that lobbyists cannot move into a government job and work on the same issue they’d pursued as lobbyists for two years.

Call me crazy but I think lobbying has simply become a corrupt money making scheme which derails our true governing system and only benefits the corporations who are paying the lobbyists and in the long run are not for our benefit.

There's a cycle here of paid politician's, after thy are not in the government as say a representative, they work as lobbyist, than they are able to get back into the government with another job. Obama tried to discontinue this self interest, but it has now been undone. So I ask who does this benefit, is this draining the swamp?

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Apr 26, 2017 11:21:15   #
Rivers
 
Morgan wrote:
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, just the issue please.

This new bill from Trump:
This order bans executive branch appointees from lobbying their former agency for five years, lobbying any agency while President Trump is in office and ever lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. It works by requiring appointees to sign a pledge which the attorney general can enforce with civil, not criminal, action. The order seems to remove an Obama administration requirement that lobbyists cannot move into a government job and work on the same issue they’d pursued as lobbyists for two years.

Call me crazy but I think lobbying has simply become a corrupt money making scheme which derails our true governing system and only benefits the corporations who are paying the lobbyists and in the long run are not for our benefit.

There's a cycle here of paid politician's, after thy are not in the government as say a representative, they work as lobbyist, than they are able to get back into the government with another job. Obama tried to discontinue this self interest, but it has now been undone. So I ask who does this benefit, is this draining the swamp?
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, jus... (show quote)


When did Obama try to rein this in? Why didn't he just write an EO? Like Trump did? Huh?

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Apr 26, 2017 11:24:09   #
Morgan
 
Rivers wrote:
When did Obama try to rein this in? Why didn't he just write an EO? Like Trump did? Huh?


Can you try and stick to the topic, Obama did...Trump has now changed it. That's what we're talking about now.

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Apr 26, 2017 11:34:54   #
Rivers
 
Morgan wrote:
Can you try and stick to the topic, Obama did...Trump has now changed it. That's what we're talking about now.


Like I said....when? And, how? If Obama did what you say, Trump wouldn't have had to do anything. I am sticking to topic, moron.

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Apr 26, 2017 12:12:01   #
Morgan
 
Rivers wrote:
Like I said....when? And, how? If Obama did what you say, Trump wouldn't have had to do anything. I am sticking to topic, moron.


No you're not, you're talking about Obama and the past, I'm talking about the changes that have been made presently. How do you feel about the changes Trump has made in his bill concerning lobbyists?

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Apr 26, 2017 12:30:29   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Damn you people are stupid!

Trump, Pence rake in millions from Washington lobbyists!

Trump and Pence have attracted dozens of new lobbyists to Washington, raking in $2.2 million in the first two months of the administration!




https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/23/trump-pence-allies-cash-lobbyists-swamp-president/100782332/




Morgan wrote:
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, just the issue please.

This new bill from Trump:
This order bans executive branch appointees from lobbying their former agency for five years, lobbying any agency while President Trump is in office and ever lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. It works by requiring appointees to sign a pledge which the attorney general can enforce with civil, not criminal, action. The order seems to remove an Obama administration requirement that lobbyists cannot move into a government job and work on the same issue they’d pursued as lobbyists for two years.

Call me crazy but I think lobbying has simply become a corrupt money making scheme which derails our true governing system and only benefits the corporations who are paying the lobbyists and in the long run are not for our benefit.

There's a cycle here of paid politician's, after thy are not in the government as say a representative, they work as lobbyist, than they are able to get back into the government with another job. Obama tried to discontinue this self interest, but it has now been undone. So I ask who does this benefit, is this draining the swamp?
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, jus... (show quote)



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Apr 26, 2017 12:31:33   #
MarvinSussman
 
Morgan wrote:
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, just the issue please.

This new bill from Trump:
This order bans executive branch appointees from lobbying their former agency for five years, lobbying any agency while President Trump is in office and ever lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. It works by requiring appointees to sign a pledge which the attorney general can enforce with civil, not criminal, action. The order seems to remove an Obama administration requirement that lobbyists cannot move into a government job and work on the same issue they’d pursued as lobbyists for two years.

Call me crazy but I think lobbying has simply become a corrupt money making scheme which derails our true governing system and only benefits the corporations who are paying the lobbyists and in the long run are not for our benefit.

There's a cycle here of paid politician's, after thy are not in the government as say a representative, they work as lobbyist, than they are able to get back into the government with another job. Obama tried to discontinue this self interest, but it has now been undone. So I ask who does this benefit, is this draining the swamp?
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, jus... (show quote)


It's an another alligator!

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Apr 26, 2017 12:55:45   #
Rivers
 
Morgan wrote:
No you're not, you're talking about Obama and the past, I'm talking about the changes that have been made presently. How do you feel about the changes Trump has made in his bill concerning lobbyists?


What do you think about the price of tea in China?

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Apr 26, 2017 12:56:24   #
Rivers
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Damn you people are stupid!

Trump, Pence rake in millions from Washington lobbyists!

Trump and Pence have attracted dozens of new lobbyists to Washington, raking in $2.2 million in the first two months of the administration!




https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/23/trump-pence-allies-cash-lobbyists-swamp-president/100782332/


You are the poster boy/girl for stupidity!

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Apr 26, 2017 13:01:32   #
Morgan
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Damn you people are stupid!

Trump, Pence rake in millions from Washington lobbyists!

Trump and Pence have attracted dozens of new lobbyists to Washington, raking in $2.2 million in the first two months of the administration!




https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/23/trump-pence-allies-cash-lobbyists-swamp-president/100782332/






That really isn't helping the conversation Ryan, I posted this to show the intention, and to see mostly what Trump voters think of it. A link doesn't do much by itself.

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Apr 26, 2017 13:02:19   #
Morgan
 
MarvinSussman wrote:
It's an another alligator!


Sorry...meaning?

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Apr 26, 2017 13:04:54   #
Morgan
 
Rivers wrote:
You are the poster boy/girl for stupidity!


So far you've tried to change the topic, have said nothing but are insulting and proving to be a troll so I'm giving you a warning.

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Apr 26, 2017 13:07:31   #
Rivers
 
Morgan wrote:
So far you've tried to change the topic, have said nothing but are insulting and proving to be a troll so I'm giving you a warning.


FU and your stupid warning....leftist moron.

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Apr 26, 2017 13:50:16   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
And your stupidity is surpassed by no others!

That link provides more accurate info on the subject than you have provided, simpleton!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/04/23/trump-pence-allies-cash-lobbyists-swamp-president/100782332/



Morgan wrote:
That really isn't helping the conversation Ryan, I posted this to show the intention, and to see mostly what Trump voters think of it. A link doesn't do much by itself.

Trump filling the swamp!
Trump filling the swamp!...

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Apr 26, 2017 15:48:25   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Morgan wrote:
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, just the issue please.

This new bill from Trump:
This order bans executive branch appointees from lobbying their former agency for five years, lobbying any agency while President Trump is in office and ever lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. It works by requiring appointees to sign a pledge which the attorney general can enforce with civil, not criminal, action. The order seems to remove an Obama administration requirement that lobbyists cannot move into a government job and work on the same issue they’d pursued as lobbyists for two years.

Call me crazy but I think lobbying has simply become a corrupt money making scheme which derails our true governing system and only benefits the corporations who are paying the lobbyists and in the long run are not for our benefit.

There's a cycle here of paid politician's, after thy are not in the government as say a representative, they work as lobbyist, than they are able to get back into the government with another job. Obama tried to discontinue this self interest, but it has now been undone. So I ask who does this benefit, is this draining the swamp?
Let's talk about this, with out party bashing, jus... (show quote)


Here's an example of the smoke and mirror show this really is: Rex Tillerson leaves office and can't lobby the State Department for 5 years - but Rex never lobbied himself anyway, he has a lobbying firm do it, so he'll never be in violation anyway. Obama tried to end the revolving door between Wall Street and the Treasury, and the banking regulatory agencies, which traded employees regularly - this removes the door entirely.

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