Here is the Obama trick once again - the go bomb them straw man -

Obama continues to fool people by laying out false alternatives assigned to those who disagree with his - McCain nor any serious opponent of Obama's calls to bomb Iran - they do call to keep all options on the table - the same position Obama claims is his. What they want to do different is not back off the sanctions (the very sanctions that got them to the table and Obama opposed) before true and verifiable cessation of their nuclear program. Let's not forget that true and verifiable cessation was what Obama once claimed as his requirement to take all options off the table.

Seems Obama supporters are enthralled at wh**ever concession to those stated goals he needs to make in order to claim success - the clear bias of approval based on lowered standards.

KHH1,

You may have something there, maybe if we can make Iran like us they will renounce Islam and turn Christian, then no need for the conflicts (wars) being waged to establish the world Islamic Caliph**e, PROBLEM SOLVED! Smart !

I can see you do understand much, your post above makes a lot of sense in some circumstances. The problem may be that you don't understand that there are fervent religiously inspired individuals/societies (unlike your robber) that don't believe robbing or k*****g you (under their prescribed circumstances) are a bad thing and don't look at your kindness as laudable but instead as a weakness, a signal to proceed. (Are you able to see the difference?)

1oldgeezer

Thankyou Hooley for shareing your experience. We have been at war with the Muslim world for some time now. Facts are facts and yes Radical Muslim groups are a major threat. I was in the service when we were allied with the Shah. Many Iranian military trained at my base. The thing I found most remarkable about them is that aside their expertly tailored uniforms is that every one of them was a world class foos ball player. That is no Sh-t. Funny to remember them that way. Seriously I do know Iran has been extremely stubborn and uncooperative. I do know they supplied IEDs to the Taliban. What I see now is more of a willing approach by Iran. Do I trust them ? Not completely. I just don't believe by further squeezing we are going to stop Iran from resenting us to the point to where they might as well have the bomb. I believe that the military option should be there and ever present for rapid deployment, but that goes for every where America and allies interests are unjustly threatened. The current talks are the best we have had. If we are going to reduce the threat we need a solution that does not inflame human nature. If some one is suppressing me and I know it I will retaliate and I think every body is like that.

Coos Bay Tom,

You seem to be a little light on history, it is true that the US and Iran were once "allied"; this ended when the Mullahs ousted the ruler, took over the country and instituted sharia law. If you know history you remember the Mullahs, during this take over, also captured and held the American embassy personnel captive for almost a year before releasing them, a very unfriendly act. When we were "allies" Iran was an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT COUNTRY.

1oldgeezer

sure I have...but i'm intelligent and my experiences don't traumatize me where I move forward through life with my mind made up...I was held at gunpoint one time at an ATM.......I used psychology....Itold the guy do not shoot and I can probably get you even more than I just gave you....I did and the guy became apologetic about the whole thing......he let me go safely, the cops caught him later and the bank refunded my money. for a minute after that...I was packing when going to an ATM...but sense prevailed and I wondered what would happen if a police officer noticed my gun.......even though I am the last person who would harm anyone, the officer would not know that...intelligence consists of continually re-evaluating your own thinking and realizing that even though you may be smart, you are not as smart as you could be...,formally or informally.......