If you're not on my side, why can't I have you over for dinnner? My Conservative friends often change my mind or end up agreeing with me< but they will never alliow anyone to mistreat me, not that I cant take care of myself, but because of "ZLiberal" bent, they can argue the s**t out of each other and i make changes.





conservatives now are black and white and for that reason will never see comproise because they believe tey are the only ob 's who are right. I.m drunk>

I understand your initial premise, but, as a Patriot, are you going to let this Jerk off insult me because he doesn't know my premise? You are old and wise.Probably not old, but wise... Because of that, you know who I am. I know the business atmosphere. My dad, who abandoned me, but I rescued him from his investments, not the stock market, but producing people. In the middle of me and working and my disabled husband, at least I was smart enough to find a way for them to own, deny taxes, etc. (long story story short to insult him, so please forgive us) You don't know who we fight, but I know you would be on our side and we can get you out of legal quandry you have for cheap or free, but we serve the community< not a bunch of cynicists when we speak

Oh, yes, as you pretentious Conservative pricks attack my 'Liberalism', you still haven't addressed who Barry Goldwater is because you're incapable of doing your homework, but quite versed in attacking a woman who has worked for everything she has. Be proud. I'm sure your children must have enjoyed the same benefits off your backs. Otherwise, why would you try to insult me? But I will give you credit. You haven't attacked me for the same things Liberals do, but that's just because they are too scared to touch me. At least you have Hubris. I can't reason with any of your pricks. Go fuck yourselves you're all the same to me, Fuckers. [ is[quote=Eckasha13]And I have given birth to no one, but my kids (step-kids in your horrible perception) needed someone to show them what work was, kind of, but they always knew it. I would never steal their thunder as you can soooooooooo libbbbbbbberallllllllllly attack me, but I showed them how to work, paid the child support, aanndd gladly paid for their wardrobe as they grew, and financed their sporting events. Just like my step-dad did for me. There were things I couldn't do and told them the reality of our finances, because I was married to a disabled drug addict. He would have been disabled just the same, but he wasn't available. I was. Don't start with the liberal bleeding heart bs with me because YOU don't know what I had to do. I didn't see my biological father for years because of his PTSD.I don't blame him. You have no idea, but I begged my step-daughter to give me every detail, as much as she was allowed legally and told her I wasn't scared of her horrors because I will never stop loving her and if she must, tell me the most gory details involved, so she has a way to get something off her chest in order to be a good mom. That is MY training. I just have the sand not to depart with my optimism. These are the simple things that matter to me. Fuck you and your cynicism and my daughter could kid your ass in your best days because I taught her the philosophy. And never will allow them to denigrate their mother, who needed financial assistance because at the age of 9, she was changing her own father's catheter because the VA sucked and she only has an 8th grade education because of her upbringing. You are all selfish cowards because I, as woman much younger than any of them bore the financial burden. There was nothing wrong with this poor woman but that she was born in the wrong place at the wrong time. Fuck you judge mental, unvisionary pricks because I did it and I never stopped loving or believing in anyone. I would bet that you assholes have digestive problems, which I don't. You would never admit it because you want to be right, not flexible or problem solving. You like to b***h, your only power like a bunch of little girls. The disease of dis empowered monarchs. At least don't be stupid enough to think those people you think don't know how to fight or have weapons, can't fight. Bruce Lee was a liberal only because he's not up Carl Rove's ass, he agreed with Barry Goldwater, someone you neocons know nothing about.[/quote]

You're so interested and caring. Perhaps you have a referral that will help me agree with you. Oh, wait, that's not what therapists do. Fucking Liberals. So ambiguous.

What coat do you think I would wear in the war for independence? Don't adhere to your ego, hear your heart. If I was a soldier then, what do you suspect would happen? And as a result of your answer, why can't we converse like gentle people? I have the forgiveness to assume that, as much as you attack me, you know what's in my neart. If I didn't have that generosity,, I woulnd't have asked the question. I don't want to bring anyone down. We're Americans. I believe we orient from that place.

Both of them do, children. They both owned their own mortgages by the age of 24 and for what do you attack me? Hubris perhaps? Death occurs in a static environment, only a dynamic environment creates life. Do you have a problem with life? I suspect I would sacrifice more for you than you ever would for me, but you hide behind your childish static. All you have to do is throw your temper tantrums, which will eventually expire with your physical death. I just wanted to have a conversation. Oh, yea didn't v**e for Obama. But carry on as if I did. It supports what I have been arguing about all along.

Your goal is to attack me, not to join forces. It's not like I expect you to agree, just to introduce something else, but no. It's so surprising (not). So anti- Jefferson, but totally Hamiltonian. Both s***e owners.

Obviously not Swedish or Norwegian. You would be a minority.

And I have given birth to no one, but my kids (step-kids in your horrible perception) needed someone to show them what work was, kind of, but they always knew it. I would never steal their thunder as you can soooooooooo libbbbbbbberallllllllllly attack me, but I showed them how to work, paid the child support, aanndd gladly paid for their wardrobe as they grew, and financed their sporting events. Just like my step-dad did for me. There were things I couldn't do and told them the reality of our finances, because I was married to a disabled drug addict. He would have been disabled just the same, but he wasn't available. I was. Don't start with the liberal bleeding heart bs with me because YOU don't know what I had to do. I didn't see my biological father for years because of his PTSD.I don't blame him. You have no idea, but I begged my step-daughter to give me every detail, as much as she was allowed legally and told her I wasn't scared of her horrors because I will never stop loving her and if she must, tell me the most gory details involved, so she has a way to get something off her chest in order to be a good mom. That is MY training. I just have the sand not to depart with my optimism. These are the simple things that matter to me. Fuck you and your cynicism and my daughter could kid your ass in your best days because I taught her the philosophy. And never will allow them to denigrate their mother, who needed financial assistance because at the age of 9, she was changing her own father's catheter because the VA sucked and she only has an 8th grade education because of her upbringing. You are all selfish cowards because I, as woman much younger than any of them bore the financial burden. There was nothing wrong with this poor woman but that she was born in the wrong place at the wrong time. Fuck you judge mental, unvisionary pricks because I did it and I never stopped loving or believing in anyone. I would bet that you assholes have digestive problems, which I don't. You would never admit it because you want to be right, not flexible or problem solving. You like to b***h, your only power like a bunch of little girls. The disease of dis empowered monarchs. At least don't be stupid enough to think those people you think don't know how to fight or have weapons, can't fight. Bruce Lee was a liberal only because he's not up Carl Rove's ass, he agreed with Barry Goldwater, someone you neocons know nothing about.

Yes, clearly, the only way I was capable of constructing my arguments was on the ability to divine welfare for the minorities and give birth to 6 children who don't know their fathers. Quite valid... But I am quite competent enough to dig holes in the dirt to bury many. So far it's only been the animals that have died of old age in my care. Liberals, Fucking liberals. You don't know the liberals I know. Probably more norther European than you. Oh, did I spell something correctly? My deepest digging apologies....

Again, partial commentary of a larger conversation. A very friendly and good natured conversation. A quality that is criminally under appreciated. You have sufficiently proven that corporations have existed before 1776. You have sufficiently stated that other corporations needed help. Good for you. Have you ever created a multibillion dollar corporation that needed help? If you did, then you would be a failure, based on your line of argument and it still doesn't sufficiently dismiss the notion of a decentralized, democratic, employee owned and run corporate structure. I'm in the business of paying my bills through making a living wage. I have the ability and right to expect to be compensated accordingly. If businesses can price fix and wage fix, why can't I and others collectively reject it? I get to negotiate too. I get to have numbers and organization too. It's possible that I/we may succeed andi t's possible that we may not. It's irrelevant.

I was discussing the success of certain businesses prior to 1776 and supporting your argument while I was redirecting the conversation about my original point. The relevance of finding non-slavish pre-1776 businesses isn't Germain to our original conversation, but of course I could do the research, due to the internet to match your request, but it's irrelevant.

It's tobacco, an addictive substance. There are distilleries and breweries that still exist from before 1776 too, but originated on the land of this country, one of them owned by George Washington in VA. I enjoy them both. More businesses than not have failed. It doesn't matter what business model you use. You have essentially argued through your use of showing that a business failed, even though it thrived for many years with extraordinary revenue, that I'm wrong because a business needed help. But, I'm suggesting that while we're failing until we get it right, try a decentralized, democratic business model that values the input of it's employees and through diffusion can change the way we deal with each other. There are many failed business with obscenely wealthy former business owners. Change is the only constant.

Maybe, but it's no surprise with tobacco. I indulge in a little organic cigarette or two from time to time, but never in the huse. Currently knocking out my cat's lung cancer with a superfood and serrapeptase. l