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Nov 9, 2016 19:34:10   #
I have zero expectations and a bag of hope that Trump makes good on at least half the grandiose promises made during this e******n. I'm giddy with relief that Hillary lost (no thanks to me). Tip of the hat to the Trumpsters that believed in this man. I did not. I do not. But I want to. My hope is that he honors what he ran on in his campaign.
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Nov 9, 2016 19:28:00   #
I gotta own it too. I said all along that I thought Trump was in this to blow up the Republican party and help Hillary win. I could use some BBQ sauce for this crow I'm about to eat?

I didn't v**e for either of them, and I still don't believe that Trump will make good on his promises...but I hope like hell he does...and I'll be glad eat more crow if it happens.

Congrats Trumpsters!!! You stuck by him through the gauntlet and you deserve the victory lap! And believe me, nothing makes me grin bigger than to see that cankle-ass witch lose. Ding dong, the witch is gone! Woo hoo!!! Let the indictments begin...
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Oct 12, 2016 11:37:42   #
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
RETW: Does Trump Represent Your Value's?
Oh, here we go again N**I'S, HITLER,
ETC. ... The Sky Is Falling! What radical, l*****t,
C*******t, Bull Sh*t!! Are you blind, or hopelessly deaf? Look at what is happening in
Mainland Europe, & England. They are being
replaced deliberately by Non-White, Horde's.
London now has a MUSLIM MAYOR. Germany
is overrun with jihadi RAPIST, & YOU preach to
us about the evil's(however pro-white), of The
N**i's. Give me a break! National Socialism,
would have saved both England, Rhodesia,
Europe, South Africa, & presently The U.S.,
FROM, the Third & Fourth World, INVASION'S.
You self-hating, Marxist G*******t, are all alike,

most REAL WHITE PEOPLE, aren't "buying", your tired old, "Cry Wolf", Lying Propaganda!
RETW: Does Trump Represent Your Value's? br ... (show quote)


My, my, my...doesn't take much to get you little jack-booted brown shirts riled up. Another Alex Jones disciple no doubt.

Let me get this straight: National socialism is the answer to stop m**************m? It might also end in gas chambers, but yes, it could be an answer to that one problem.

I care not what happens in Europe. I care what happens here on our shores. We have a constitution and laws. All we need is the will to enforce pre-existing laws. You don't need a national socialist in office to get that done. I think we've got enough black eyes from the mistakes of the past to last our country for a long time. We don't need to go down that road again that leads to internment camps or possibly worse.

It's pretty clear that you're in the Alt-Right camp. How's that any different than B*M? It's just the negative of the photograph.

No one could ever confuse you with a neo-N**i, that's for sure. (sarc)
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Oct 12, 2016 11:10:49   #
BigMike wrote:
Who says Zemirah speaks for us?

The e******n is about globalism, whether people know that or not. Therefore Trump is the only choice. Sitting this out for principle's sake also isn't a choice. Besides, all this "moral" outrage is manufactured bulls**t anyway, and a waste of time. No one cares, except for the sake of politics. The same people making all the noise cheer much worse at the Grammys.



"Who says Zemirah speaks for us?" - I don't know, you tell me? You Trumpsters just want to argue for argument's sake it would appear. Zemirah replied to one of my posts. I replied back. Then you jumped in...and here we are. You're operating off of a false assumption. (what else is new?)

If you think that standing on principle and v****g one's conscience is bulls**t, then that's fine. That's your opinion. You Trumpsters all seem to abide by your own set of "facts" that don't exist outside of your little bubble. If that's what you need to believe to sleep at night, more power to you. I, on the other hand, still live in a constitutional republic where my God-given right to v**e, as I choose, is still protected under the constitution/bill of rights.

You're one of those Drudge, Breitbart and Alex Jones guys. That's where the term "tin foil hat" comes from. It's a damn shame what Drudge and Breitbart have turned into. I guarantee you that Andrew Breitbart would be furious at what has happened to his legacy. He was not what that organization has become.

Look, I get why you guys so desperately want Trump. Ok, I get the idea of why. But the problem is, Trump is a f**e. He's not who you think he is. If he truly was that guy, I'd be on board with you. Maybe. But I clearly see that he's full of s**t. And for the life of me, I can't understand why you Trumpsters can't see it. Now, saying that... I know that your knee-jerk response is, "Well, what about Hillary, huh? Hillary's the one that's full of s**t!..blah, blah, blah..."

Yes, I know. Hillary oozes s**t when she walks and talks. Saying that Hillary's full of s**t is like saying trees are made of wood and water is wet. We all know that. It's Trump that has us divided, not Hillary. We can all unite against Hillary. We just can't all unite to support Trump. Therefore, my v**e is going to the Constitution Party candidate - Darrell Castle. It will be Darrell's name, not Hillary's name that I v**e for.

A v**e for Darrell is a v**e for Darrell. Saying that a v**e for anyone other than Trump is a v**e for Hillary indicates that my v**e already belongs to Trump and that if I don't follow through, I'm stealing or c***ting him out of his rightful v**e simply because my political philosophy somewhat aligns with others that would v**e for Trump. That's not how it works. There will be at least 3 other names on the b****t besides Trump and Clinton. That means choices. That means it's not binary. That means Trump ain't getting my v**e. If you want to blame someone, blame Trump for failing to earn my v**e.
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Oct 12, 2016 10:26:25   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Do what you want. But the fact remains, and I mean FACT, any v**e for anyone other than Trump, is the equivalent of a v**e for Clinton. Knowing that makes your choice much more of a choice.


You're not entitled to your own "facts". If you and all of your Trumpster buddies want to live in this fantasy world where Trump is going to solve all of your problems and actually follow through with all of his proclamations, then go ahead and live there in Trumpland. You'll wake up to reality soon enough.

Meanwhile, spare me the Trumpster pretzel logic.

My v**e is MY v**e. It doesn't automatically belong to Trump or you or the Trumpster nation. It's MY v**e. If Trump wants my v**e he has to earn it. So far, he has failed miserably. I don't trust the man. He's as big of a liar as Hillary. Hillary's lies are only bigger because she was in a position of power in the government that effected many lives...4 of which were lost because of her. Nonetheless, Trump is just as big of a liar as she is, and if elected (of which I don't believe he will be), he will demonstrate just how big of a liar he is. Whether you choose to continue to live in the Trump fantasy and make excuses for him (like the Obamabots did for Obama) is up to you. But make no mistake about it, Trump will lie to you...just like he's doing every day on the campaign trail.

#NEVERTRUMP
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Oct 12, 2016 10:15:53   #
bahmer wrote:
I believe that both parties are morally and spiritually bankrupt and the only thing that they both crave is power and money as neither party is looking out for the people just themselves. They will both lie c***t and steel to gain what they want and crave. They are like wild animals at a feeding frenzy of sorts for power and money.


Ahhhh, I knew that if I hung in there, I'd find at least one person that gets it. You, my friend, get it very clearly.
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Oct 12, 2016 10:11:11   #
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm not so sure the blame for Trump can be laid at the feet of Clinton or the Democrats.
A more dispassionate (and less conspiracy-minded) theory seems to point to the Republican Party.

With a unique combination of championing the illogic and d******eness of the far right, coupled with the maniacal focus of doing absolutely nothing but obstruct and oppose Obama, they managed to make a deal with the Devil just to win. Win and nothing else. It is not the imagined clandestine power of the Clintons at work, but rather the inept, morally bankrupt Republican Party that has created this scenario.
I'm not so sure the blame for Trump can be laid at... (show quote)


Granted, my theory is just that, a theory. However, the breadcrumbs are there.

Ok, with respect to the Republicans...

1) The division within the R party has been brewing for some time. The Tea Party is a result of that division spurred on by progressivism in both parties. However, Trump has revealed a whole sect of the R party that are not too bright and lean too easily towards national socialism (the party of Hitler and Mussolini). Trump is a national socialist (or at least in rhetoric). Frankly, I don't think that Trump really cares about politics at all (unless it's making him money), nor is he an ideologue. He tends to bend and morph into wh**ever suits him at the given moment. He's a carnival barker, a used car salesman, or they guy in the old west that would sell the magical elixir potion that cures all. That's Trump.

2) As for the Rebublicans obstructing Obama's agenda...So what? That's what the opposition party usually does. If Obama would've been more Bill Clinton-like, c*********d and worked with the R congress, things would've moved along more often. But, Obama is a rigid ideologue and mocked and ridiculed the Republicans rather than work with them. It was his way or no way. So, it was no way. There's no way in hell you can blame congress for his int***sigence.

3) "Just Win" - both sides are guilty of that mentality. The Republicans are eaten up with it. The establishment GOP and especially the Trumpsters care not for standards of civility, integrity, facts and t***h, moral character, true conservative policy stances or anything else other than "winning". The Republican party of Reagan used to be the party of conservative principles and values, conservative policy platform, original intent of the Founders and staunch supporters and protectors of the constitution...but not anymore...which is why I'm no longer a Republican. We passed all those exits a long time ago. Now, they're the party of blind anger and winning...and moving rapidly towards national socialism. If there was one person that exemplifies the Trumpster movement, it's Charlie Sheen. Crazy and obsessed with winning.
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Oct 11, 2016 11:15:45   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
If a v**e for your constitutional candidate didn't equate into a v**e for Clinton, more people would v**e for him.


And, If I didn't think that a v**e for Trump was a v**e for a closet Democrat, I might be persuaded to v**e for him. He's done little to change my mind.

You see, it works like this: My v**e is my v**e, not yours, not Trump's, not anyone else's but mine.

Trump doesn't automatically deserve my v**e just because I usually v**e Republican. Trump has to EARN my v**e. And, up this point, he has failed miserably.

Hence, I have shopped elsewhere and have found a candidate that best represents my values and principles...of which are grounded in the bible and the constitution.

How about you v**e your conscience and I'll v**e mine? Capice?
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Oct 11, 2016 10:47:04   #
bilordinary wrote:
If the democrats weren't depending on a slanted e******n, they would have never run a loser like Hillary!
You at least get part of it, but I don't think you quite grasp the whole concept of what's going on. Yes, this e******n is slanted...it has been from the start...even back to the primaries on both sides. Why do you think Donald Trump even got into the race? Because the Clintons needed someone that they could beat. With all of Hillary's scandals, she would never have been able to beat the likes of Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Fiorina, Paul, or maybe not even Jeb Bush! (Not to mention the fact that she's just totally unlikeable on both sides). That means low v**er turn out on her side and high v**er turn out on the other side. What to do about her predicament?

ENTER: THE CLINTON MACHINE and how they orchestrated Trump's campaign.

Donald Trump is the ONLY guy that was equally repugnant and yet had the gravitas (thanks to his billionaire status and celebrity) to win people over that would be the perfect mole. They also knew that the Right was no different than the Left in one respect: Both have legions of gullible minions that are more focused on "winning" than on minor details like character, morality, integrity, valid policy stances, a firm grasp and in-depth knowledge of the issues and a proven track record of sound governance. Like the Obamabots in 2008, Trumpsters don't care about any of those things. All they care about is their perceived concept of winning, while totally missing the bigger picture. Trumpsters' version of the big picture is "A v**e for anybody but Trump is a v**e for Hillary". That's as deep as these people can think.

I expect more videos of Trump will be "leaked" to the media. They'll save the most damaging video until right before the e******n. Don't get me wrong here, it won't sway the Trumpster v**e whatsoever. They've been bought lock, stock and barrel. But it will damage any v**es that he may've pulled from the (Hillary-hating blue dog) Democrats or the Independents.

Not sure how much money the Clintons had to expunge from the Clinton Foundation (or George Soros) to bribe Trump into doing this for them, but I promise you...it was a hefty price tag. I think Trump did it because he's a liar when it comes to his actual net worth. He claims to be worth $10B or something. I'm betting he's worth less than $1B. I think he was in real financial trouble and had to take this deal. I think that's why he won't release his tax information.

Wise up Trumpsters. You've been bamboozled.
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Oct 11, 2016 08:58:37   #
BigMike wrote:
Who said Trump represents moral values???


A simple scroll back up would answer that one. Let me help you..."Donald Trump represents the values of everyone in the United States who has retained any moral values."- Zemirah

I find it ironic that the same people that trashed Bill Clinton in the 90s for his immoral escapades and claimed that, "Moral character and judgment MATTERS!!!"...are the same people that, fast-forward 20 years and NOW they have, let's say, a more casual attitude toward governing experience, morality, character and ill-advised judgment and decision making. Back then a person's record, policy issues and stances mattered, but today, not so much. I never thought I'd see the day that the e*****rate on the Right would act like Democrats and abandon all manner of principle and hoist upon their shoulders their champion of whom they have to go to great lengths to stretch the bounds of reason and logic to justify choosing him. I think some of you know deep down in your soul that you made a UGE mistake, but you're too damn proud to admit it now because it's too friggin' late to turn back. Face it Trumpsters, you've been bamboozled by the Donald and the Democrats. Personally, I think the Clintons are behind it. They set the trap and you took the bait.

Congratulations Trumpsters. You've now become Democrats. You can't claim to have the higher ground anymore on policy, principle or morality. You chose a closet sleaze-bag know-nothing Democrat as your champion. Good luck with all that.

DARRELL CASTLE - CONSTITUTION PARTY - 2016
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Oct 10, 2016 11:21:13   #
RETW wrote:
I am gladdened by the fact you only have one v**e. Because actions speak way louder than words. If you haven't learned this by this time, you shouldn't be allowed to v**e.

RETW

I am gladdened by the fact you only have one v**e.... (show quote)


"...you shouldn't be allowed to v**e" Are you listening to yourself?

Spoken like a true good little Trump N**i. "V**e the way we say or you lose your right to v**e"

I wonder how the Founders would view your stance?

Is this what we expect from a Trump presidency? Tow the party line or you will be silenced (one way or another)? Do you people not see that you have become National Socialists? Hitler and Mussolini were National Socialists.

No sir. It is YOU that hasn't learned the mistakes of the past and it is you that doesn't get it.
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Oct 10, 2016 11:12:49   #
Zemirah wrote:
Does Trump Represent Your Values?

Absolutely!!!

Donald Trump represents the values of everyone in the United States who has retained any moral values.

Donald Trump represents the values of everyone in the United States who has retained any common sense.

Donald Trump represents the values of everyone in the United States who retains their God-given natural/normal heterosexuality.

Donald Trump represents the values of everyone in the United States who values their constitutionally guaranteed Freedom-of-Speech.

Donald Trump represents the values of everyone in the United States who values honest self-expression over political correctness.

Donald Trump represents the values of every citizen who loves the United States and wishes to preserve it, rather than sell it to the highest bidder.

With God's extended mercy to an undeserving nation, Donald Trump will be the next president of these United States.
b Does Trump Represent Your Values? /b br br Ab... (show quote)


Let me nutshell this by quoting Vincent Gambini..."Everyting dat guy just said is Bulls**t!"

Donald Trump represents moral values? Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! We can't even get past the first one!!!! You Trumpsters beat all I've ever seen. And I thought that the Left had to stretch the bounds of reality to justify their choice of candidate or party...but, I NEVER thought I'd see the day when the "Right" started doing it.

Actually, we have been doing it for many years...just not this blatant. I mean, Nixon, Ford, the Bushes and even further back to Herbert Hoover (all progressives)...at least they had a modicum of respectability. At least they could f**e it enough for us to believe they were worthy.

Hell, Trump is mocking all of you by acting like a buffoon and you still don't care. He literally could have a monkey as a running mate and you'd justify it. He even bragged and mocked you to your face by saying that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose a v**e. Good friggin' golly, how stupid and gullible can you people be? He has to be saying to himself, "Damn, what does a guy have to do to throw an e******n these days?"

I'm not sure they counted on this level of blind stupidity, I mean, loyalty. It's been my contention all along that Trump only got into the race to divide and destroy the Republican party, get the nomination or split the v**e in the general, derail his own campaign and help ensure Hillary's victory in November. I think his plan is almost blowing up in his face. He's probably thinking, "Oh s**t! These i***ts are actually going to elect me as president!" "Un-friggin'-believable!!!"

DARRELL CASTLE - CONSTITUTION PARTY - 2016
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Oct 9, 2016 15:31:14   #
Hypocrisy in politics? Say it isn't so! This e******n is tantamount to choosing between Hitler and Stalin (to a lesser degree at the onset). Sorry, can't go there. I'm going with the candidate that best represents my principles and values...and that is certainly neither Trump nor Clinton. This e******n, Darrell Castle of the Constitution party gets my v**e. Read the party platform. Read his responses in interviews. He ain't sexy, but he represents me. Therefore, he has my v**e.

Before you start in with the lame argument of "a v**e for anyone else but Trump is a v**e for Hillary" nonsense...Let me stop you there. I, unlike the majority of the e*****rate, do NOT accept the two-party binary argument. There are other candidates in the race. There are other choices. I will exercise my constitutional right to choose whom I will and will NOT be bullied by the power brokers or their sycophants into only choosing between the two most well-funded parties that are equally and totally corrupt. I have a brain and God-given rights and I intend to use them independent of what anyone else does. I would rather not v**e at all than to compromise my principles by v****g for either of the "front runners". Of course, I'd never v**e for Hillary or any of the C*******ts on the Left anyway...but, there's no way in hell I'm v****g for the fraud that is Donald Trump.

DARRELL CASTLE - 2016
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Oct 9, 2016 15:09:13   #
solarkin wrote:
Folklore, memories,drugs and alcohol.
We cannot bring forth a successful future unless we can recall the lessons of our ancestors.
If we cannot heed the call that is crying out between the pages, we will be relegated elsewhere to bacterial status.
We cannot get along with each other,yet we lay claim to the Universe.
Sapiens have a real shot at greatness .
Make wise choices,and know that tomorrow greets us all.


Make wise choices indeed. I instill that to my daughter often. But, when it comes to politics and the perceived "wise choice" by individuals (within a collective mindset), I think that wisdom is taking a backseat to the desire to win at all costs. The fear of losing is clouding the judgement of the majority. I keep hearing that "A" is unfit for office because of "X, Y & Z". The argument for their candidate is much weaker than the alternative. If your strongest argument is a v**e against the other guy, then your argument is sorely flawed and worthy of introspect and reexamination. Maybe we should be working to develop more choices in order to discover the right one.
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Oct 9, 2016 14:32:35   #
Big Bass wrote:
A good strong third party is long overdue.


All it takes is the people getting behind a solid candidate. I don't think being loyal to a party is a good idea...ever. Look what's happened to the Republican party. They used to be considered the party of conservatism. That train left the station a long time ago...right after Reagan's two terms expired. Nowadays, there are few that can even articulate what conservatism is. It's been bastardized over the past 25 years that it's "conservatism" in name only.

Take lawn mowers for example: You have a lawn mower company make itself a name like Troy-Bilt. And everybody loves the quality and reliability of Troy-Bilt products. Then, one day, another company comes along and buys Troy-Bilt. On the outside, the lawn mowers look just like the old reliable Troy-Bilts...but in reality, the quality isn't near what it once was. It's now Troy-Bilt in name only. Sound familiar? The progressives have bought the Republican name and now they appear to own the Conservative brand.

Unless we, as true conservatives (not in name only), stand up and plant our f**g and say NO MORE and start educating others, stop v****g for "the lesser of two evils"...the progressives will continue to destroy and erode all that is good an holy about our country. They will continue to distort what our values and principles are and what we truly stand for. What say you?
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