What's wrong with going back to a Constitutional Republic like we started with. "We the People" having been remiss in our duties allowed these self serving politicians to destroy the government our Founders gave us. Read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, and the Bill of Rights. Compare those documents with what our government today is doing, and you will see a 180 degree change of what the Founders had in mind. There is nothing wrong with the the original theory of a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, what's wrong is the politicians and the apathy of the v**ers for allowing them to stay in office.

Terri, I think that you misdirected your comments.

I too believe that the eyes tell the condition of the mental states of people. That is one of the reasons that you are instructed to look people directly in the eye when speaking, first you can see the mental state (people who are suffering from many mental illness have a distinct look), secondly you can tell if a person is understanding your words, and lastly a person who is not being t***hful can not meet (normally) the gaze of another to whom they are lying.

No, I do not wear glasses. 20-10 vision. Yes, 20-20 is considered good. But, I can see at 20 feet what others see at 10 feet away. Inherited good health and eyesight. No dentures in my family history either, average life span is 92 and the youngest died in wars.

All of us know that almost every move we make is being monitored, nothing new there. Our mail is being monitored (confessions of the Obama Administration), each time we stop at a stop light photos are being taken of our cars, we walk down major streets in the US, our photos are being taken. It is big brother and people of my generation saw it coming many years ago. So, most people are law abiding and go somewhat unnoticed.

In times past, I know that there was cloak and dagger used in eliminating or disrupting day to day activities. However, most techniques have been altered to fit the times. If Russia or even China wanted to damage the US, they would hit the information highway. They would disrupt banking, redirect or misdirect troop and ship movement, or any number of hands off disruption of electronic warfare.

Russia is interested in the US, but not in the ways of 20 years or more ago. They are more interested in rebuilding their public image, rebuilding their infrastructure, and their military. They are not now, but will be in the future, a threat. China has their own problems, and they are heavy into technology. On any given day, our Pentagon and military installations are hit with thousands of intrusions on their computers. They, as well as many of the informed Americans, are well aware that we can bring a nation to its knees with a take over of technology. Our military's biggest fears at this point is not the size of opponents army, but how bright are their hackers and can a EMP be delivered before we can bring it down.

Thank you for the reading tip. I still read 6 or 7 books a week, down from the 20 or so when I was young.

I am sure that you do know things that many do not. I retired from the government, and there are many things I am not allowed to go into detail about. I was an interrupter while in service, Russian and after I left the service I worked for DOD in Information Security. So, yes there are things that are still kept quite.

I guess I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, because I still am not sure exactly what you are implying about the Navy yard shooting.

You are most welcome, we are glad you are here. Now, the quote reply button just helps the rest of us, but if you wish to have a one sided conversation, because many of us will just pass the postings over if we have to work too hard in figuring out to whom you are replying or reread the entire thread to get the gist of what you are saying, that of course is your choice.

Regarding the grand conspiracy theory. All you need to do is go back through history and you will notice a pattern. http://www.auburn.edu/~peteeta/massmurder2.htm Mass murders come in a number of forms but they share some pathology: Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, cited five:

• The k**ler blames others for his problems.

• He is much more likely to have a mental illness, particularly paranoid schizophrenia, than homicide perpetrators in general.

• He is often a loner, with few friends or social connections.

• He carefully plans his attacks, taking days to months to get ready.

• He is much more likely to be suicidal than a typical k**ler. "Because the mass murderer considers his life no longer worth living, he will either k**l himself or force the police to k**l him," Dr. Duwe said.

If you thought is there are drugs being given to people who visit psychologist or psychiatrist that produce mass murders, whereas they are given medications and counseling, I need to remind you that each day millions of people seek help for mental problems, and few become murders.

Yes, there has been a rash of mass murder over the past several years, but keep in mind that there was a disproportionate amount of suicides right after stock market crashes. Indeed, the number of murders increase during periods right before and at the beginning of wars and international conflict. I guess, the bottom line is the civil unrest within the US, the proposed action with Syria, the ongoing conflicts in Afghanistan, and Iran, jobless rates, stocks stagnation, among other factors are catalysts in pushing some unstable people over the edge.

Is that a large enough picture for you?

Hello, and welcome to the forum. There are a couple of things before I get into your request. First, use the quote reply button so your remarks will appear with the person to whom you are responding. It just helps the rest of us follow your conversation. Second, there are a couple of real angry people who posts regularly. Do not be discouraged because they will call you names, belittle and try to make you red hot mad.

Now for your question. I do not think the shooter, Aaron, was directly associated with either a sleeper cell or an active cell. He was perhaps a man who wanted his 15 minutes of fame, but more likely he was just a person who was a brick shy of a load. What leads me in this direction is his general discharge from the Navy. He had anger issues in the past where he pulled guns on people, and he was a social outcast who blamed everyone else for his problems. When they searched his residence, they did not find any reference to al Qaeda or any other known terrorist group, although the reports say that his house was a complete mess, which means that he had not be careful enough to hid any evidence.

The problem it seems, he was not mentally stable. This should have been caught while doing a background investigation, but because those investigations were farmed out to nonmilitary personnel, his clearance was not performed correctly. This situation was caused by cut backs last year in that department.

Hello, and welcome to the forum. There are a couple of things before I get into your request. First, use the quote reply button so your remarks will appear with the person to whom you are responding. It just helps the rest of us follow your conversation. Second, there are a couple of real angry people who posts regularly. Do not be discouraged because they will call you names, belittle and try to make you red hot mad.

Now for your question. I do not think the shooter, Aaron, was directly associated with either a sleeper cell or an active cell. He was perhaps a man who wanted his 15 minutes of fame, but more likely he was just a person who was a brick shy of a load. What leads me in this direction is his general discharge from the Navy. He had anger issues in the past where he pulled guns on people, and he was a social outcast who blamed everyone else for his problems. When they searched his residence, they did not find any reference to al Qaeda or any other known terrorist group, although the reports say that his house was a complete mess, which means that he had not be careful enough to hid any evidence.

The problem it seems, he was not mentally stable. This should have been caught while doing a background investigation, but because those investigations were farmed out to nonmilitary personnel, his clearance was not performed correctly. This situation was caused by cut backs last year in that department.