So it appears you & Kemmer have terminal TDS. Trump didn't lose the e******n - he lost the count given the stuffing of b****t boxes with non-existent SSN's submitting b****ts. Other reports of machine duplicated b****ts, missing or scribbled illegible signatures, duplicate counting of b****ts, multiple precincts submitting identical b****t counts for Biden with only 1b****t v****g for Trump, reports of more absentee b****ts returned versus mailed out; the list of violations of respective state v****g laws is long and sufficient to cause serious doubt in the veracity of the 2020 e******n. Our e*****rate has always readily accepted the results of our e******ns, but not when it is so obviously fraught with irregularities as in this 2020 v**e. That said, our nation has never had such incompetent leaders as we are experiencing with this Biden debacle - Afghanistan withdrawal, out-of-control border, inflation, shortages, v*****e distribution incompetence/shortages (both v*****e & monoclonal medicines), crime, travel interruptions, etc. Talk about a hot mess!!!?? This is it!! This all falls on Biden & his administration as well as those who v**ed for him!

Apparently, you can't handle the "proof." (i.e. 300,000 phony SSN's)

It has become abundantly clear that J****** 6th was not an i**********n. Had it been anything other than a demonstration gone rogue, the DOJ would have charged those arrested with something more than a simple trespassing offense. As more video is released, we are seeing that DOJ had personnel infiltrating the demonstrators, agitating and promoting going into the capital. Video has been released showing c*****l p****e holding doors open & inviting "i**********nists" armed with "deadly" smart phones inside, where they took pictures and wandered about in awe of the opulent surroundings in which our "beleaguered" representatives are forced to serve, but surprised & hardly knowing what to do after finding themselves actually inside the building. As with any large demonstration, some property damage occurred but nothing compared to the B*M/A****a r**ts endured in other cities during this past year. Somehow, this entire episode does not pass the smell test - except for the lingering odor of a set up. And why hasn't justice been served for the murder of Ashley Babbit?!

Keep in mind the C*****l P****e are not the bad guys here. They were following orders & attempting to control the demonstration with inadequate resources. The true culprit here is Nancy Pelosi, who, despite warnings & recommendations, purposely left them understaffed & unsupported - almost like she knew some demonstrators were going to become violent & attempt to invade - and she didn't want to prevent that from happening.

House Republican committee report: "The evidence presented does not prove any of these Democrat allegations, and none of the Democrats' witnesses testified to having evidence of bribery, extortion, or any high crime or misdemeanor," said the draft report.[69][70] This report also painted the push to impeachment as solely politically motivated.

Vindman was the "whistle blower" but no others on the call thought there was a problem. Neither did Vindman, until he was urged to raise the issue. Other testimonials ( Taylor Cooper Hill Volker Sondland) offered no direct proof - only opinions. In fact, Sondland under cross questioning later contradicted himself in quoting Trump "I want nothing . . ." The only quid pro quo with Ukraine was Biden, himself, (& bragging about it) that he got the attorney investigating Burisma (re: H****r B***n et al. bribe payments) fired or he would have withheld $1.5 billion in US gov't support to Ukraine. Of course, that's been ignored.

There have been countless demonstrations over past years, for a multiplicity of reasons. Previously, necessary security was in place. But recent demonstrations in Minneapolis, St. Louis, Kenosha, Portland, etc., have been grossly more violent than J6. Given that background, and in lieu of intelligence warnings to that effect, there is no reason adequate security was refused - unless these was some ulterior & sinister motive. Large crowd demonstrations can easily get out of control. Security personnel know this & warned Pelosi - yet she refused recommended additional support. This is what happened and it is all on Pelosi, because she has control of capitol security forces.

A response like this contributes nothing to the conversation, albeit it a display of rudeness & absence of logical arguments to the contrary. The Mueller investigation did find connections between Russia & the Clinton campaign, but those finding were glossed over because they did not support the left's narrative attempting to implicate the Trump campaign. Sorry - just stating the facts, not political opinion.

In reality, the loss of crowd control on Pelosi, because despite intelligence warning of huge crowds & possible violence, she repeatedly refused additional support from various law enforcement agencies up to & including Nat'l Guard reinforcements. Clearly, there were instigators included in the crowd of demonstrators, but little or no effort has been made to identify them, be they Proud Boy types or B*M, etc. extremists. Furthermore, video shows guards pulling back barricades & virtually inviting the crowds to enter at some locations.

All of that said, whoever heard of an "i**********n" where the "insurrectors" forgot to bring any weapons - unless you count the bison horns on that one dude's head piece?! This sounds more like a failure to provide adequate security in the face of a very large demonstration, and the media hyping it into a story that is untrue on its face.

Replying to Microphor - did I misread the thread of this conversation? To be clear I believe CA is probably the worse governed state in the USA, and it's a shame that the metro areas of LA SF & SD control the otherwise conservative e*****rate. Regrettably, NY PA IL MN & NE states have the same problem.

So you were homeless in CA? If not, what is your point? You moved from CA to TN & bought a home - good for you! We're talking about homelessness in CA & conditions existing there enabling homelessness.

Mine was a "tongue-in-cheek" comment. Obviously, I do not have a favorable opinion of perennial welfare recipients let alone thieves. Welfare is intended for the truly special needs citizens & as a 'bridge" for those who experience temporary challenges typically beyond their control. For this latter category, there should be a clear & reasonable "sunset" provision.

California has better welfare & you can steal up to $1500 merchandise & prosecutors won't file charges. It just doesn't get any better than that, does it?!🤪

While I suspect something like this is truly what happened, I would seriously like to see the authentication supporting this statement. It is not logical to believe that the majority of Arizona citizens v**ed Democrat across the board in the 2020 e******n. But until alternate facts can be proven, this is what we are stuck with. Hopefully, we are nearing the end of these reviews and, more importantly, implement better controls to re-establish confidence in the 2022 e******n results.

I certainly would not shoot & k**l that hypothetical person battering down my door if it was an unarmed woman & I was not fearing for my own life! As for the r****rs, force (as in fire hoses, tear gas, flash bangs, arrests & ultimately the Nat'l Guard) certainly was indicated.

Using this logic, its ok to shoot illegal border crossers, or r****rs l**ting, setting fires and/or damaging property. Maybe you better come up with a better justification for shooting an unarmed woman who was posing no threat to the shooter.